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mikey2much said:
They are so pissed that they wouldn’t listen with an open mind.

On the contrary - most are amused. And good for him he has an advert thread. A lot of people give an alert when a new story is published. Mr. S just takes it to a level that in itself is satire. :)
 
jomar said:
On the contrary - most are amused. And good for him he has an advert thread. A lot of people give an alert when a new story is published. Mr. S just takes it to a level that in itself is satire. :)

Exactly. It makes me chuckle to read his little self reviews. I'm at the other end of the spectrum, I do absolutely no self promotion.
 
The numbers tell a story also

[QUOTEas for this, Mikey...
Ratings are already listed next to stories. Views, I think, are irrelevant, as they include whoever clicked on your story, however many times they clicked on it... no more useful than a web counter. *shrug*[/QUOTE]

I know what you are saying but I have a story with a rating of a perfect five hundred, but only five people have voted on it. I think that a story that has several thousands of views and has a total of five hundred should be judged as a better story. Don't you agree.
mikey
 
mikey2much said:
I know what you are saying but I have a story with a rating of a perfect five hundred, but only five people have voted on it. I think that a story that has several thousands of views and has a total of five hundred should be judged as a better story. Don't you agree.
mikey

Not necessarily, it may be a more popular story, but not a better story.
 
another sign that a change is due

rachlou said:
As time goes on, i'm really starting to think the same. :rolleyes:

When people began to admit that the system they are using is not of any use, it is time for a change. I have a story that has only had 13000 views or so and it is rated at 473d of the top five hundred in gay male with only eleven votes. I don't think that my story should be competing against other stories that have hundreds of thousands of votes and still get equal treatment.

Althrough I really like the ideal of my story being rated that high, I don't think it is fair.
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2 out of 6 ain't bad!

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For my real fans - my readers

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I would so hope that is true

drksideofthemoon said:
Not necessarily, it may be a more popular story, but not a better story.

That's a very nice thing to say but the readers are the ones who really decide what stories win the awards aren't they. And the more readers that you have that finish your story and liked it enough to vote, those are the stories that should be the winners. I am afraid that when I have a story with 13000 views and only five votes, most of the readers are not finishing the story. My writing was not good enough to hold their interest and they have scrolled down the list to try another one. I want to see a large number of readers voting on my stories. I want to know that they thought enough of the story to at least finish it.

With 13000 reads and only five votes I have a hard time thinking that they liked the story.

At the same time I want to write a good story, not just a stroke story. If I wrote something that I thought was good but wasn't enough of a stroke story to do well here, where would I post it. This is the only site that i have ever been to that I thought had good writing.
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mikey2much said:
That's a very nice thing to say but the readers are the ones who really decide what stories win the awards aren't they. And the more readers that you have that finish your story and liked it enough to vote, those are the stories that should be the winners. I am afraid that when I have a story with 13000 views and only five votes, most of the readers are not finishing the story. My writing was not good enough to hold their interest and they have scrolled down the list to try another one. I want to see a large number of readers voting on my stories. I want to know that they thought enough of the story to at least finish it.

With 13000 reads and only five votes I have a hard time thinking that they liked the story.

At the same time I want to write a good story, not just a stroke story. If I wrote something that I thought was good but wasn't enough of a stroke story to do well here, where would I post it. This is the only site that i have ever been to that I thought had good writing.
mikey

Ahh, the contests. I believe that the best stories rarely win, there is way too much tinkering with the voting. Too often, the story that wins has the minimum number of votes to qualify. The best of the contest stories are usually trolled to death and doomed to mid-pack. I don't enter any of the special contests.

As for the other contests, the monthlies, I have no idea how Lit decides which ones are the winners. All I know is that I turn off my voting for a minute or two to disqualify my work.

I don't write stroke stuff, I just write what I want, and I don't give a damn about views, votes, etc.
 
drksideofthemoon said:
Ahh, the contests. I believe that the best stories rarely win, there is way too much tinkering with the voting. Too often, the story that wins has the minimum number of votes to qualify. The best of the contest stories are usually trolled to death and doomed to mid-pack. I don't enter any of the special contests.

As for the other contests, the monthlies, I have no idea how Lit decides which ones are the winners. All I know is that I turn off my voting for a minute or two to disqualify my work.

I don't write stroke stuff, I just write what I want, and I don't give a damn about views, votes, etc.


I heart you. :heart: :cathappy:

I haven't looked at my views/votes outside of a contest in a long time, actually...
 
Its not the contest that I want to win, its the readers

drksideofthemoon said:
Ahh, the contests. I believe that the best stories rarely win, there is way too much tinkering with the voting. Too often, the story that wins has the minimum number of votes to qualify. The best of the contest stories are usually trolled to death and doomed to mid-pack. I don't enter any of the special contests.

As for the other contests, the monthlies, I have no idea how Lit decides which ones are the winners. All I know is that I turn off my voting for a minute or two to disqualify my work.

I don't write stroke stuff, I just write what I want, and I don't give a damn about views, votes, etc.

When I read what I wrote I could see how you might think that I was after the awards or winning a contest. That is not what I want. I want to write fiction good enough that people will like it enough to finish it. Like it enough that they will want to give it a five. Thats the contest that I want to win.
It is the only way that I can really tell what my stories are doing out there.

My numbers are not good, my most viewed story only has twenty thousand views and only 35 votes. I do think that the story is better than the votes would lead you to believe. I think that the score is low (4.20) because I got trolled at the beginning. There are also some flaws in the writing that I am going to go back and edit out. But the thing is without the votes and the score I would have no ideal how the story was doing.

I only tell my close friends about my writing and I can't trust their judgement. They like me too much to be honest or they don't know anything about writing. So I go by the votes and the scores.
 
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scouries said:
Suggestion #7 – Please Miss Laurel, make 2007 the last year we hold the ‘How To Contest’

The lack of participation compared to other contests, and the less than captivating submissions is a clear message from even your greatest fans (Club AH) that this contest has run its course. Let’s move on to bigger and better things in 2008.

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to be continued – jrs

I suggest the How-To Contest be replaced with the I'm Published Contest. Only Literotica authors who are "published" are permitted to enter (that's you, Club AH). If an author who is not "published" dares to submit a story, he/she gets REJECTED with the reason given as "You suck, amateur, and it doesn't matter how many views, votes, or comments you have."
 
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scouries said:
Questions for Manu and Laurel…

QUESTION #2 Could you explain the formula (and the reason for it) that you use to determine where on the ‘New Story’ page a story is placed?

I do know that special contest entries are almost always listed first and that ‘Non Consent’ stories are always listed last. ‘Incest’ and ‘BDSM’ stories are usually very near the end every day. ‘Romance’ and ‘Audio’ tales are always near the top.

Certain author’s stories are also always listed near the top. Do you charge these authors for the privilege or are they given these lofty positions for some other reason?

Well now, Scouries, it seems as though you set another one off screaming and stomping. But perhaps your newest fan, SweetWitch, could offer some insight into the above-referenced matter. Her stories are always near the top. For example, her latest "Dire Straits Ch. 24" was #3 on yesterday's New list. It's the story that has "A special thank you to DanielleKitten for her priceless insight" in the beginning. What is really puzzling to me is why more authors don't begin their stories with "A special thank you to Scouries for his priceless insight." What ingratitude!
 
Scribbled said:
What is really puzzling to me is why more authors don't begin their stories with "A special thank you to Scouries for his priceless insight."

:D :nana: :D

Now, that made me laugh.
 
From a new member

Scribbled said:
Well now, Scouries, it seems as though you set another one off screaming and stomping. But perhaps your newest fan, SweetWitch, could offer some insight into the above-referenced matter. Her stories are always near the top. For example, her latest "Dire Straits Ch. 24" was #3 on yesterday's New list. It's the story that has "A special thank you to DanielleKitten for her priceless insight" in the beginning. What is really puzzling to me is why more authors don't begin their stories with "A special thank you to Scouries for his priceless insight." What ingratitude!


I think I might be able to shed some light for you.

I'm a new member, but I've been following the works of several authors on this site--the only reason I joined.

Some of those authors were mentioned in this thread. The way in which they were mentioned reminds me of a spitting kitten, angry because no one would toss him a scrap of food. I think that green-eyed little monster lurks here.

Did it ever occur to you, you mindless twit, that those stories are at the top because they're the best? Romance is more main-stream than tasteless incest stories. Not a lot of "normal" people find screwing one's daddy or mommy to be stimulating reading. Some of us just find it gross.

And what's with the AV pic, scouries? Is that your 14-yr-od cousin? Shouldn't nude pictures of little girls be banned on this site? Kiddie porn? Incest? Disgusting.
 
ColleyJen said:
Did it ever occur to you, you mindless twit, that those stories are at the top because they're the best? Romance is more main-stream than tasteless incest stories. Not a lot of "normal" people find screwing one's daddy or mommy to be stimulating reading. Some of us just find it gross.

And what's with the AV pic, scouries? Is that your 14-yr-od cousin? Shouldn't nude pictures of little girls be banned on this site? Kiddie porn? Incest? Disgusting.

That's not his little cousin, it's his aunt.

Did it ever occur to you, you mindless twit, that incest stories are at the top of the most read list because they're the best? Incest is more stimulating reading to porn lovers (this is a porn site right?) than boring romance stories.

33 of the top 50 most read stories on this site are Incest category. None of the top 50 are Romance category. 11 of the top 50 are Illustrated category.

Yes, I see why Scouries desires to do an illustrated story now. Maybe with a title like "Daddy Takes Daughter's Cherry." Another stroke of genius by Literotica's most popular motherfucker.

Although one would think Romance category would get more reads when they are at the top of the New list. Like DanielleKitten's story today. You have to go down to #26 to find an Incest category story.
 
scouries said:
How To Contest​

I’m only going to comment on one story, and only because I believe it highlights everything I don’t like about Literotica’s special contests in general and this one in particular. I understand from others that the author is quite talented but this is the first work of his I’ve ever read (as far as I can remember).

God it tries so hard! Okay if he wants to try a little cutesy humor, an in joke for his buddies, so what? But on every second line? Miss sarahhhh got banned for being funny, for writing a story that the censors felt was too humorous to be in this category. The author of this story started out to write a Humor Category story but even the censor didn’t find it funny. “Christ, put it in the bloody ‘How To’ contest,” Laurel finally ordered one of her minions.

The continuous asides to other ‘in groupers’, to his AH buddies, is almost pathetic, and the story may include some of the most ‘sucky up’ lines in Literotica contest history. A Julie Andrews moment? Little Miss DK is studying hard for her presentation? Sweetwitch and her newts? Yuck

You have to wonder what the ‘Average Joe’ reader opening this story randomly, thinking a contest story probably should be pretty good, would make of the whole thing. My guess is he’d be clicked out and long gone by the end of the second paragraph.

Which is of course the author’s greatest failing here. He doesn’t care about them. In fact he doesn’t want them to get to the end and vote. You can feel the utter disdain he shows for not only Literotica’s readers but also other authors he clearly feels superior to. He may speak for his “fellow [AH] Romance writers” but certainly not for the vast majority of us.

Surely sir, if you are going to write a story to be entered in a major Literotica competition its sole purpose shouldn’t be to mock the people that you rely on so much for to feed your ego. For yes, even though, like so many of your AH friends, you dismiss the majority of readers as simpletons and perverts, you still crave the rush that comes from having your stories ‘viewed’.

Quite frankly I hope you win the contest. Then this (expletive deleted) story will have to stay on the site forever, a testament to one authors arrogance and pettiness.

Jim,

I just wanted to say thanks for your feedback. That is, of course, the purpose of this forum, and it is nice to see this thread finally being used for that. I'm sorry that my expletive deleted story wasn't to your liking. Perhaps you would enjoy some of the other ones I've posted although, as you point out, I don't have sarahhh's deft touch and widespread appeal. Also, feel free to use my pen name in the future so that your many readers don't have to guess whose story you are reviewing.

Marsh
 
Did it ever occur to you, you mindless twit, that those stories are at the top because they're the best? Romance is more main-stream than tasteless incest stories. Not a lot of "normal" people find screwing one's daddy or mommy to be stimulating reading. Some of us just find it gross.

Alright... let's not degenerate into category mudslinging, okay? Everyone has their own tastes, right?

I have no problem with what Scouries writes, how he writes it, or even many of his ideas about Lit/scoring etc...

it's his social skills which seem... er... somewhat lacking, to me...

I actually feel sorry for him, and in some weird sort of way, kind of admire his tenacity and persistence... as delusional as it may be... :eek:

Incest is a category at Lit, as is nonconsent, Romance, Erotic Horror, etc. They're all, according to site rules, acceptable. To each his or her own...
 
ColleyJen said:
Did it ever occur to you, you mindless twit, that those stories are at the top because they're the best? Romance is more main-stream than tasteless incest stories. Not a lot of "normal" people find screwing one's daddy or mommy to be stimulating reading. Some of us just find it gross.

I take umbrage with your comment, 'tasteless incest stories'. I have a series, Montana Summer, that for what ever reason ended up in the Incest/Taboo category. Whatever it is, Montana Summer is not tasteless, and usually one or more of the chapters are at, or near the top of the category.
 
poobah??? i like it....

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