BotanyBoy
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Sure. Cause that is SO likely.
Crazy is crazy.....
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Sure. Cause that is SO likely.
The capitalist government, you support.
That's what capitalist governments do.
Not at all I'm against most government intrusions into the markets.
You're conflating socialism with capitalism again.
Your entire schtick is conflating everything you don't like, including the neboulous "Injustice" with "Socialism."
No capitalism, no market. Period.
Definition of capitalism
: an economic system characterized by private or corporate ownership of capital goods, by investments that are determined by private decision, and by prices, production, and the distribution of goods that are determined mainly by competition in a free market
You don't have any argument that doesn't inevitably boil down to "Socialists! Socialists everywhere!" Do you?
I haven't found BotanyBoy to have any argument that holds any water. He's just a parasitic drone trolling here for the amusement of trolling.
by investments that are determined by private decision
But you being a huge advocate of state authority to engage in socialistic.
Which is why Market manipulation is crucial to HOW capitalism works. Without maintaining the markets that underpin the economy, capitalism isn't capable of maintaining that economy.
And this is how you prove that you're capable of an argument, that doesn't ultimately boil down to calling "Socialism!"
It gets boring pretty quick.
Monarchy: No market.
Socialism: No market without capitalism.
Theocracy: No market.
Communism: No Markets (No private wealth to invest in Markets.)
Oligarchy: No markets without capitalist Oligarchs (We're looking at a capitalist Oligarchy now.)
Anarchy: No markets.
Market manipulation is crucial to capitalism. Show one capitalist system without markets. (And without screaming socialism when backed into a corner.) or before the establishment of said markets.
Being capitalism is defined by free markets (without government manipulation) and private ownership of property and investments made by private decision (no government manipulation)
It's going to be hard to show you a capitalist system lacking all the things that define it.
Can you show me a definition of capitalism that includes government control/administration over the distribution of goods and services?
Because we have a word for government administration over the markets (distribution of goods and services)....and it's not capitalism. No matter how badly you want to pretend it is!
You just added, all of that, to the definition you just posted.
Definition of capitalism
: an economic system characterized by private or corporate ownership of capital goods, by investments that are determined by private decision, and by prices, production, and the distribution of goods that are determined mainly by competition in a free market
it goes beyond the stub in the dictionary, and into how the Government actually maintains the markets.
However, we'll have to talk about economics, and you don't earn an MBA by reading the definition of "Money" in the dictionary.
Not my argument.
Market manipulation is crucial to capitalism.
It's not socialism, either.
So, are you ready to discuss market capitalism, or do you want to say Socialism again?
That's how Capitalism, AND Socialism works, here, in America. Together.
Unregulated Capitalism crashes, due to Fraud. Corporate greed.
Merriam Webster isn't an Economist. It's Semantics.
Are you ready to stop pretending capitalism is government ownership and administration over the means of production and the distribution of goods and services?
Ok so were at least able to admit the USA is a mixed economy finally.
Free market capitalism doesn't work, unless the governement steps in to protect the Investors from the Corperations. We tried that, it failed, catastrophically, twice, in the span of 5 years.
So the government has to protect them from their own stupid....their own poor economic choices.
I never started.
Market manipulation is crucial to capitalism.
We're. We, are. Plural. You, and I, discussing this. Not I discuss this, and you call me a socialist. Then post the same definitions you claim I haven't read for the thousandth time.
Now, say something about the time that socialism saved the economy from Free Market Capitalism.
No, they had to protect them from corporate fraud.
It was the beginning of the end.
He saved the economy, from free market capitalism, with socialism.
Now, captain semantic. Show that money and property are means of production,
whereas the working class are not.
Yea..temporarally.
And after that initial wave?
Name something that's produced without money and or property.
You can't take a shit without money or property of some kind to get food to produce a turd.
Never said labor isn't.