https://fullfact.org/news/muslims-uk-viral-poster-factchecked/
Conclusion: Lies, Fake News, Complete Load Of Bollocks.
Christchurch and Islamophobia
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Muslims have been killing Christians right and left for years.
Why is it not news when Christians die?
The Muslims have sewn their seeds and now it's time to reap the harvest.
Why is it not news when Christians die?
The Muslims have sewn their seeds and now it's time to reap the harvest.
Two IEDs (improvised explosive devices) were found in a car and neutralised by the military, police said.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-47582183
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-47582183
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what sound does a church make in Egypt when a muslim walks in on Easter?
bang bang BOOOOOOOM
its a good start. really it is. if muslims can kill each other non stop why cant non muslims join in the fun?
OOh does that mean I have free rein to murder Irish Catholics? After all, they murdered a load of our peeps?
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First of all what makes you think that we're the only ones who hate the Islamic Jihadists?
Secondly what do YOU call it when Islamic terrorists blow up a train station? Or bus depot, or nite club? What do YOU call it when Jihadists stuff a car full of explosives and set it off in a crowded market?
Muslims fucking DESPISE You. Muslims want YOU dead and your whole way of life destroyed. And you think you're going to win them over by letting them build a Mosque on the site of their greatest war victory?
How long before the Brits get fed up? Or have their balls been gone so long they'll just sit back and let it happen?
Austria is already shutting down mosques and telling them to go home.
I can tell you, it won't take long in the US. You piss off Americans too much for too long and they WILL fight back.
My I, can you post a source for the stuff you've quoted? I'm puzzled by the curiously precise statistics therein and it would be good to know wether they are the fruits of scholarly research.
As for the rest, well, I've worked on the streets of many British inner cities across 25 years or so and can tell you I've yet to see a 'Muslim no-go area'. But maybe that's just me.
Muslim mayors and councillors? That's good news - we want all parts of our community integrated and participating fully.
Sharia law? Yes, Sharia banking and civil proceedings occur. They have roughly the status of custom and form no part of Britain's legal system.
Austria...seriously?! Austria made it's own singular contribution to world affairs during the last century and has nothing to teach the UK. I commend you to the study of history.
What you have posted is a rant. You are welcome to contribute your thoughts to Britain's evolving social scene but cobbling together odds and ends from the cocoon of the Right's message boards just isn't good enough.
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Post #27 above has a link debunking that list as bullshit.
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Well, they're all out in force this morning, taking their oversized families to their churches, where they're taught to enjoy human flesh and blood. Then they'll be taking the streets in hordes, with their special clothing and bizarre headgear.
Even area restaurants are bowing to their dietary needs and their specially prepared meats.
Do you really think the Irish have assimilated? Keep a close eye on them today.
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Well, they're all out in force this morning, taking their oversized families to their churches, where they're taught to enjoy human flesh and blood. Then they'll be taking the streets in hordes, with their special clothing and bizarre headgear.
Even area restaurants are bowing to their dietary needs and their specially prepared meats.
Do you really think the Irish have assimilated? Keep a close eye on them today.
Listen you cannot say 'nigger' or make Irish jokes unless you are Phil Lynnott - who was both a nigger and Irish, though he was not a joke by any one's estimation.
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bluesquare writes: "Sharia law? Yes, Sharia banking and civil proceedings occur."
Islamic Sharia Law ALSO has some very interesting ideas regarding the education of women (e.g. it's not necessary), and how to treat gay men (using tall buildings that are at least five-stories in height to throw them off of). And God forbid your local newspaper should publish a doodle of the prophet Muhammed! That means that a public stoning in the town square is probably going to be necessary!
I also couldn't help but notice that Bill & Hillary Clinton's daughter Chelsea (who is pregnant with her third-child) was confronted on Friday by angry students claiming that her condemnation of anti-Semitism somehow played a role in the New Zealand mosque attacks! I repeat: by condemning anti-Semitism, these students told Chelsea Clinton that her hate-filled "rhetoric" stoked the hatred leading to the attack!
It's all on video if you'd care to watch it. One of these left-wing students actually says to a frightened-looking Chelsea: "This right here is the result of a massacre stoked by people like you and the words that you put out into the world... I want you to know that and I want you to feel that deep inside. The 49 people died because of the rhetoric you put out there."
This is your modern Democratic Party at work, folks! They believe this crap! It's a lot like the National Socialist Party was in Germany back in the early 1930's.
Islamic Sharia Law ALSO has some very interesting ideas regarding the education of women (e.g. it's not necessary), and how to treat gay men (using tall buildings that are at least five-stories in height to throw them off of). And God forbid your local newspaper should publish a doodle of the prophet Muhammed! That means that a public stoning in the town square is probably going to be necessary!
I also couldn't help but notice that Bill & Hillary Clinton's daughter Chelsea (who is pregnant with her third-child) was confronted on Friday by angry students claiming that her condemnation of anti-Semitism somehow played a role in the New Zealand mosque attacks! I repeat: by condemning anti-Semitism, these students told Chelsea Clinton that her hate-filled "rhetoric" stoked the hatred leading to the attack!
It's all on video if you'd care to watch it. One of these left-wing students actually says to a frightened-looking Chelsea: "This right here is the result of a massacre stoked by people like you and the words that you put out into the world... I want you to know that and I want you to feel that deep inside. The 49 people died because of the rhetoric you put out there."
This is your modern Democratic Party at work, folks! They believe this crap! It's a lot like the National Socialist Party was in Germany back in the early 1930's.
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RubenR writes: "I can see clear parallels with Christianity, and Judaism isn't any better. And you're doing a great job, fanning the fear. Master must be pleased with you."
"Master must be pleased with me?
No, Ruben, I'm NOT an Antifa member who repeats whatever George Soros tells me to say - whatever makes you think that I'm a liberal Democrat?
Islam has a history of violence that continues to this very day - or are you seriously unaware of this? Throughout the Islamic world there are people fleeing to Christian countries! WHY do you suppose this is?
Muslims from Syria & Iraq are trying to get to Sweden or the Netherlands - why not sneak into Turkey or the United Arab Emirates, where the government & people are already Islamic? But NO, they're either not wanted or else they have no desire to remain in the Islamic world!
It's not unlike Venezuela - I mean, America's socialists EXTOL the glories of socialism, but does ANYBODY want to actually experience it? Certainly not Bernie Sanders or Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez! No, they'll remain right here in capitalist America!
Islamic & socialist nations are hell-holes by EVERYBODY'S standards, but the anti-American far-left here in the U.S. continues to treat them with reverence. And if even somebody like Chelsea Clinton dares to condemn anti-Semitism, they'll blame her for hate-crimes! But, like you say, it's what George Soros wants, and HE'S the master!
"Master must be pleased with me?
No, Ruben, I'm NOT an Antifa member who repeats whatever George Soros tells me to say - whatever makes you think that I'm a liberal Democrat?
Islam has a history of violence that continues to this very day - or are you seriously unaware of this? Throughout the Islamic world there are people fleeing to Christian countries! WHY do you suppose this is?
Muslims from Syria & Iraq are trying to get to Sweden or the Netherlands - why not sneak into Turkey or the United Arab Emirates, where the government & people are already Islamic? But NO, they're either not wanted or else they have no desire to remain in the Islamic world!
It's not unlike Venezuela - I mean, America's socialists EXTOL the glories of socialism, but does ANYBODY want to actually experience it? Certainly not Bernie Sanders or Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez! No, they'll remain right here in capitalist America!
Islamic & socialist nations are hell-holes by EVERYBODY'S standards, but the anti-American far-left here in the U.S. continues to treat them with reverence. And if even somebody like Chelsea Clinton dares to condemn anti-Semitism, they'll blame her for hate-crimes! But, like you say, it's what George Soros wants, and HE'S the master!
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Did Chelsea Clinton really "stoke" Islamophobia by condemning anti-Semitism?
The "master" (as RubenR calls him), George Soros, is pushing that this narrative be spread, with even Hillary's own daughter not being spared from confrontation by far-left activists! The group of angry students stopped a pregnant Chelsea on Friday, informing her that the former first daughter was partly responsible for the New Zealand mosque shootings, claiming that she had “stoked” hatred against Muslims.
According to an account published in the Washington Post, Chelsea had just attended a vigil in New York City to honor & remember the victims of the New Zealand mass shooting when a student confronted her, saying:
“This right here is the result of a massacre stoked by people like you and the words that you put out into the world,” referring to Chelsea's condemnation of anti-Semitic remarks recently made by Muslim Democrats in the U.S. House of Representatives. “I want you to know that and I want you to feel that deep down inside. Forty-nine people died because of the rhetoric you put out there.”
Again, all Chelsea did was to speak out against anti-Semitism. Maintaining her composure throughout the video, she responded by apologizing: “I’m so sorry that you feel that way,” adding: "It was never my intention. I do believe words matter. I believe we have to show solidarity."
If Adolf Hitler was alive today, Ruben, he would very likely be working closely with George Soros (whom you refer to as "the Master") to further transform the Democratic Party into the pro-Islamic political organization it has become!
The "master" (as RubenR calls him), George Soros, is pushing that this narrative be spread, with even Hillary's own daughter not being spared from confrontation by far-left activists! The group of angry students stopped a pregnant Chelsea on Friday, informing her that the former first daughter was partly responsible for the New Zealand mosque shootings, claiming that she had “stoked” hatred against Muslims.
According to an account published in the Washington Post, Chelsea had just attended a vigil in New York City to honor & remember the victims of the New Zealand mass shooting when a student confronted her, saying:
“This right here is the result of a massacre stoked by people like you and the words that you put out into the world,” referring to Chelsea's condemnation of anti-Semitic remarks recently made by Muslim Democrats in the U.S. House of Representatives. “I want you to know that and I want you to feel that deep down inside. Forty-nine people died because of the rhetoric you put out there.”
Again, all Chelsea did was to speak out against anti-Semitism. Maintaining her composure throughout the video, she responded by apologizing: “I’m so sorry that you feel that way,” adding: "It was never my intention. I do believe words matter. I believe we have to show solidarity."
If Adolf Hitler was alive today, Ruben, he would very likely be working closely with George Soros (whom you refer to as "the Master") to further transform the Democratic Party into the pro-Islamic political organization it has become!
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RubenR writes: "Master taught you well!"
Why can't liberals simply refer to him as "George Soros?" Is he now like the prophet Muhammed, and everybody has to call him "Master," or risk being thrown off of five-story rooftops, such as Muslims do to gay men in those nations practicing Islamic Sharia Law?
"Oh, and don't forget to leave things out, when they no longer suit your case. Keep moving! Flames Forever!"
Okay, Ruben... about Chelsea Clinton... is she a HATER? Did she deserve to be surrounded by a group of Soros goons and accused of perpetuating a hate-crime against the Muslims of New Zealand by speaking out against anti-Semitism here in the United States?
I am HARDLY a Clinton fan, Ruben, but I'm entirely on Chelsea's side in this one! So WHY aren't you the same? WHY do you feel that Chelsea is part of the problem? Seriously, you don't follow everything "the Master" says, do you? So WHY remain silent on this?
Why can't liberals simply refer to him as "George Soros?" Is he now like the prophet Muhammed, and everybody has to call him "Master," or risk being thrown off of five-story rooftops, such as Muslims do to gay men in those nations practicing Islamic Sharia Law?
"Oh, and don't forget to leave things out, when they no longer suit your case. Keep moving! Flames Forever!"
Okay, Ruben... about Chelsea Clinton... is she a HATER? Did she deserve to be surrounded by a group of Soros goons and accused of perpetuating a hate-crime against the Muslims of New Zealand by speaking out against anti-Semitism here in the United States?
I am HARDLY a Clinton fan, Ruben, but I'm entirely on Chelsea's side in this one! So WHY aren't you the same? WHY do you feel that Chelsea is part of the problem? Seriously, you don't follow everything "the Master" says, do you? So WHY remain silent on this?
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RubenR writes: "I'm not like Kansas; you can't put words in my mouth... It's a little sad; seeing you communicate with yourself..."
Wow... you really DON'T want to discuss what happened to Chelsea Clinton, do you? That whole confrontation must be tearing you in two!
Here's Hillary's very own daughter, a staunch young liberal woman who devotedly supported her mother's presidential bid - as did you, yourself - suddenly stopped by an angry group of Soros goons who confront her over comments she made earlier in the week attacking the anti-Semitic remarks coming from the new freshman class of Muslim legislators! Chelsea was simply saying that anti-Semitism is WRONG!
I can understand, Ruben, that you sympathize with Soros and the new strain of anti-Semitism slowly engulfing the far-left in America today. You probably despise Israel and instead support the anti-American Palestinians (as do MANY modern Democrats), but the Clintons are at-or-near the very HEART of the Democratic Party, and if Hillary's own daughter can't escape the abuse of the far-left, what hope is there that the Democrats can unify in stopping Trump's re-election in 2020?
Again, was Chelsea Clinton WRONG to condemn anti-Semitism, or is this neo-Nazi way of thinking the "new normal" for progressives in America today?
Wow... you really DON'T want to discuss what happened to Chelsea Clinton, do you? That whole confrontation must be tearing you in two!
Here's Hillary's very own daughter, a staunch young liberal woman who devotedly supported her mother's presidential bid - as did you, yourself - suddenly stopped by an angry group of Soros goons who confront her over comments she made earlier in the week attacking the anti-Semitic remarks coming from the new freshman class of Muslim legislators! Chelsea was simply saying that anti-Semitism is WRONG!
I can understand, Ruben, that you sympathize with Soros and the new strain of anti-Semitism slowly engulfing the far-left in America today. You probably despise Israel and instead support the anti-American Palestinians (as do MANY modern Democrats), but the Clintons are at-or-near the very HEART of the Democratic Party, and if Hillary's own daughter can't escape the abuse of the far-left, what hope is there that the Democrats can unify in stopping Trump's re-election in 2020?
Again, was Chelsea Clinton WRONG to condemn anti-Semitism, or is this neo-Nazi way of thinking the "new normal" for progressives in America today?
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It looks like you’re the only one with allll the details and full accurate information about those events, so only you are qualified to discuss it.
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issue is you forget to look at liberal logic.
liberals despise Christianity because it has actual rules and a moral code you are supposed to follow. EVERYTHING the liberals claim to love are outlawed in the bible. Thus they go against it non stop.
The muslims fill two spots that the liberals worship.
Liberals hate Christianity and so do the Islamics.
Liberals hate white people, almost every Islamic I have seen is black/brown/or deeply NON WHITE.
I have yet to see a JEW that was non white.
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Thanks, Oggbashan, I had overlooked post #27 but doubt that fullfactcheck's rational appraisal will count for much in the midst of all this Islamophobic fervour.
Really, I was teasing the op a little - I recognised the type from a long correspondence with a US conservative evangelical who sent me list after list after lengthy list of readymade claims, talking-points and 'facts' of much the same sort.
There seems to be an almost industrial-scale production of such stuff, apparently emanating from weird foundations, the fundamentalist blogosphere and propagandist 'news' sites. My correspondent - a highly intelligent person - accepted it all as true because it was written.
If America accepts these 'lists' wholesale that's their problem; when directed at the UK they deserve to be challenged.
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Pocketshaver writes: "liberals despise Christianity because it has actual rules and a moral code you are supposed to follow. EVERYTHING the liberals claim to love are outlawed in the bible. Thus they go against it non stop."
This is true. Liberals claim that they support gay & transgendered rights, whereas Islamic Sharia Law judges such things to be abominations in the eyes of Allah, punishable by death, AND LIBERAL KNOW THIS! The Democratic Party also claims to be in the forefront of promoting & defending women's rights, yet Islamic Sharia Law doesn't see any reason why women should be educated, even forbidding women from learning to read in some countries! Until recently, women in Saudi Arabia couldn't even legally drive themselves in automobiles! AND LIBERALS ALL KNOW THIS!
So WHY is the supposedly liberal (and increasingly pro-atheist) Democratic Party now cozying up to Islam and to the Islamic religion? The answer is actually quite simple: Islamic teachings are vehemently opposed to America's traditional Judeo-Christian morals & values, and modern liberal Democrats SHARE this opposition! And so, if the current freshman-class of House Democrats includes Muslim women who wish to say anti-Semitic remarks, modern liberals will SUPPORT this, even shouting down libs like Chelsea Clinton, who finds such things to be distasteful & offensive!
As for New Zealand stopping tragedies like this recent one, the U.S. Democratic Party's solution is to copy something that they first tried in the city of Chicago, and that's to put up "Gun-Free Zone" signs up in front of all of their mosques. Just because it's failed here doesn't necessarily mean that it's a BAD idea!
This is true. Liberals claim that they support gay & transgendered rights, whereas Islamic Sharia Law judges such things to be abominations in the eyes of Allah, punishable by death, AND LIBERAL KNOW THIS! The Democratic Party also claims to be in the forefront of promoting & defending women's rights, yet Islamic Sharia Law doesn't see any reason why women should be educated, even forbidding women from learning to read in some countries! Until recently, women in Saudi Arabia couldn't even legally drive themselves in automobiles! AND LIBERALS ALL KNOW THIS!
So WHY is the supposedly liberal (and increasingly pro-atheist) Democratic Party now cozying up to Islam and to the Islamic religion? The answer is actually quite simple: Islamic teachings are vehemently opposed to America's traditional Judeo-Christian morals & values, and modern liberal Democrats SHARE this opposition! And so, if the current freshman-class of House Democrats includes Muslim women who wish to say anti-Semitic remarks, modern liberals will SUPPORT this, even shouting down libs like Chelsea Clinton, who finds such things to be distasteful & offensive!
As for New Zealand stopping tragedies like this recent one, the U.S. Democratic Party's solution is to copy something that they first tried in the city of Chicago, and that's to put up "Gun-Free Zone" signs up in front of all of their mosques. Just because it's failed here doesn't necessarily mean that it's a BAD idea!
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Republicans hate feminism and so do the Islamics.
Republicans hate GLBTs and so do the Islamics.
Republicans fan the fires of racism, sexism, homophobia and xenophobia and so do the Islamics.
Hey, I like this game!!
Oh, yes, it must be Trump's fault. Nothing to do with the continuous hatred expressed by the Moslem world. ELEVEN CHRISTIANS A DAY on average murdered because of their faith by Moslems, with exhortations coming from Islamist clerics who often quote the Koran to support their murderous intent. No, nothing to see there, move along- it's Trump's fault!
I am not a fan of Trump's divisive rhetoric either, but Gimme a break, sir. How insipid can you get?
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P.S. Under our system, Trumpn the election fair and square. Democrats have been stealing elections for years, registering illegal aliens and voting on behalf of the deceased. Get a grip on reality.
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Exactly! They both are nihilists who want to destroy Western Civilization. Ok, I would not say that is true of the entire Democrat Party, but it is true of the Left, all of whom, if they are a member of a major political party, are Democrats.
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Those all sound like America's traditional Judeo-Christian morals and values.
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Can't say you're totally dumb, I guess.
"Directly Responsible" isn't the same thing as "totally at fault." From your posting history, I say you are directly responsible too. More than one can be directly responsible, and you fit the bill.
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Examples please. Put up or shut up.
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