What makes you stop reading a story?

Sorry, Ogg, didn't mean to offend or imply. I must admit my knowledge of common Caveman names is very limited.

I have a caveman one without dialogue--set before there was spoken word. It's titled "Beginning of Time" and it's done well enough, very well commercially (which tends not to have the trolls we have here, because you actually have to buy it to choose to hate it).

So, it's all relative.
 
Well, the Caveman movie with Tommy Chong's (of Cheech & Chong) daughter did quite well as I remember.

And Unfrozen Caveman Lawyer had a very long and successful legal career.

Man Caves are also becoming extremely popular with domesticated, domiciled Cavemen.
 
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What's a roll reversal ? sounds kinky

Google tells me it is a aerial manoeuvre useful for gaining separation from your enemy.


I would not have faulted the use of roll reversal anyway, but instead over the improper use of 'beg the question'.
 
It does beg the question. What would they consider rape in a roll reversal?

I would imagine a role reversal rape would be fem dom stories where the man is pegged with a strap on.

Or of course there could be GM rape stories where a man is raped.

I do know "role reversal" rape stories are not nearly as well received, because men can;t handle the thoughts of strong women taking it to them.

I've written a few, but would never post them here. They're too harsh.
 
Google tells me it is a aerial manoeuvre useful for gaining separation from your enemy.


I would not have faulted the use of roll reversal anyway, but instead over the improper use of 'beg the question'.

Never trust the google. It is extremely dangerous to engage in reluctant/non-consensual sex while operating an aircraft.
 
Let me tell you a little about myself. I have a 32 inch cock which is wonderful, ever since my girlfriend got me a garden hose reel. Let me introduce you to my girlfriend Mandy. She has 39QR breasts and she's endlessly greatful since I found 2 concrete mixer drums along with rope, that was once used to tie up the Queen Mary, at a garage sale. At first I only found one concrete mixer drum and it was so difficult trying to manage with that. But when we found it wasn't big enough, I went back to the garage sale and they instantly saw the problem......

I won't go on.

I hate "you" stories.

I abhor the stories that use words like slut and whore.

I hate stories that don't move- they seem to sit and do nothing. (I wonder if it takes training to do that?)

I dislike stories that are so full of detail they lose the sense of story.

I hate stories that are about scat, incest, under age, animals........... I'm pretty proud of my normalcy

I can't read stories that the author brags in.

I can't stand humiliation, pain....

I don't like vampires, werewolves etc

I like stories that have something worth while to say and it doesn't have to be written with majestic language.

I love imagination which induces me to imagine too.

I love stories that are clever and make me laugh. Not much of it here though.

It really helps when I get the feeling that the author has done their best

There are so many things. Some are simply intuitive and I can't say what they are, but I do respond to them.
 
Let me tell you a little about myself. I have a 32 inch cock which is wonderful, ever since my girlfriend got me a garden hose reel. Let me introduce you to my girlfriend Mandy. She has 39QR breasts and she's endlessly greatful since I found 2 concrete mixer drums along with rope, that was once used to tie up the Queen Mary, at a garage sale. At first I only found one concrete mixer drum and it was so difficult trying to manage with that. But when we found it wasn't big enough, I went back to the garage sale and they instantly saw the problem......

I won't go on.

I hate "you" stories.

I abhor the stories that use words like slut and whore.

I hate stories that don't move- they seem to sit and do nothing. (I wonder if it takes training to do that?)

I dislike stories that are so full of detail they lose the sense of story.

I hate stories that are about scat, incest, under age, animals........... I'm pretty proud of my normalcy

I can't read stories that the author brags in.

I can't stand humiliation, pain....

I don't like vampires, werewolves etc

I like stories that have something worth while to say and it doesn't have to be written with majestic language.

I love imagination which induces me to imagine too.

I love stories that are clever and make me laugh. Not much of it here though.

It really helps when I get the feeling that the author has done their best

There are so many things. Some are simply intuitive and I can't say what they are, but I do respond to them.

I see what you did there, but you obviously got the bra size rong. It’s too bad too. Your story had potency. If only they were related and had an underage animal in the story. I might have missed a comma in your example. But, what’s with the underage animal? Aren’t there laws for that? What kind of animal was it? Domestic, wild, free range?

It was a really good beginning to a penthouse letter. I believed every word of it. Well done. Two thumbs, and a less than average nub, up for the effort.
 
oral directly after anal sex
rape as the main theme of the story
anal sex without preparation (especially lack of lube)
guys calling their partners (whether female or male) for bitch or slut - except in a few role play situations or as a rare occurrence in the heat of the moment
too embellished descriptions
virgins or very inexperienced girls / guys who come immediately just by being fucked

^^
All of these. Plus many of the others mentioned.

I do not like reading about weak women. I often write submissive women, but if you think that is the same thing, you're quite mistaken.

Clunky dialogue is a turn-off for me. I have an ebook I'm trying to muddle through right now that is like this. The dialogue is total ADD and it's making my head hurt. But the premise of the story has such promise.

It's sad to witness a good theme getting lost in the writing.
 
Submissive can be hot, but there is an erotic trope going back at least as far as Story of O where the submissive woman has no other real identity. Too many stories simply stop there, and I find them more depressing than erotic.

And you are correct that a lot of stories with weak women have nothing to do with submissiveness. There are lots of stories with sexually aggressive women who are simply helpless in every other aspect of their lives.
 
I see what you did there, but you obviously got the bra size rong. It’s too bad too. Your story had potency. If only they were related and had an underage animal in the story. I might have missed a comma in your example. But, what’s with the underage animal? Aren’t there laws for that? What kind of animal was it? Domestic, wild, free range?

It was a really good beginning to a penthouse letter. I believed every word of it. Well done. Two thumbs, and a less than average nub, up for the effort.

Yep. Bloody comma.
 
Let me tell you a little about myself. I have a 32 inch cock which is wonderful, ever since my girlfriend got me a garden hose reel. Let me introduce you to my girlfriend Mandy. She has 39QR breasts and she's endlessly greatful since I found 2 concrete mixer drums along with rope, that was once used to tie up the Queen Mary, at a garage sale.

I would read about Queen Mary being tied up at a garage sale.

(The "QR" means if you photograph her breasts with a smartphone it takes you to a website, BTW.)
 
I use different attributives when it fits. Like whispering, shouting, etc.

This is a very informative thread. I hate just using 'he said she said' I wrote an entire how-to on how to avoid it.

I'm with you Cruel2BKind, he said she said is fine if you are reporting the news, but other times, it's more comical than helpful. I have a plot bunny I'm working on wherein a character is beating another character with a baseball bat. I'm not going to write "Why couldn't you just leave me alone?" she said as the bat smashed against his shoulder. If you are beating the shit out of someone with a bat, I think there is going to be some screaming involved.
 
I'm with you Cruel2BKind, he said she said is fine if you are reporting the news, but other times, it's more comical than helpful. I have a plot bunny I'm working on wherein a character is beating another character with a baseball bat. I'm not going to write "Why couldn't you just leave me alone?" she said as the bat smashed against his shoulder. If you are beating the shit out of someone with a bat, I think there is going to be some screaming involved.

I'd think that if the writer properly sets up the situation that includes smashing a bat against someone, the screaming will be self-evident.

I don't think that anyone's really advocating using "said" when something stronger is called for. I'd find the above example pretty silly if I encountered it in a story. Still, it's easy to go overboard with dialogue tags (I did it myself at first). Moderation, as in most things. :)
 
I'm with you Cruel2BKind, he said she said is fine if you are reporting the news, but other times, it's more comical than helpful. I have a plot bunny I'm working on wherein a character is beating another character with a baseball bat. I'm not going to write "Why couldn't you just leave me alone?" she said as the bat smashed against his shoulder. If you are beating the shit out of someone with a bat, I think there is going to be some screaming involved.

You could always go with:


After blowing a wild strand of hair out of her eyes, she smiled and looked at the baseball bat still clutched in her hands. “Wow, that was better than sex. And I don’t have to wait ten minutes for you to be ready to go again. Maybe next time you’ll log in to leave a comment.”
 
You could always go with:


After blowing a wild strand of hair out of her eyes, she smiled and looked at the baseball bat still clutched in her hands. “Wow, that was better than sex. And I don’t have to wait ten minutes for you to be ready to go again. Maybe next time you’ll log in to leave a comment.”

Doesn't fit with the plot, but hey, if you ever write a story with a bat-wielding protagonist, you've already got a few good sentences written!
 
Doesn't fit with the plot, but hey, if you ever write a story with a bat-wielding protagonist, you've already got a few good sentences written!

I’ll attempt to make an ass out of myself and “assume” it’s a stalker of some sort. I know. I excel at it. Or so I’m told.

If you’re actually struggling with it, you could go with:

She put all her rage and frustration into her voice when she bent over him and screamed. “Why couldn’t you just leave me alone?"
 
I’ll attempt to make an ass out of myself and “assume” it’s a stalker of some sort. I know. I excel at it. Or so I’m told.

If you’re actually struggling with it, you could go with:

She put all her rage and frustration into her voice when she bent over him and screamed. “Why couldn’t you just leave me alone?"

Not struggling with it yet. It's a plot bunny that came to me this morning for a Halloween story. I jotted down a few notes in my idea file so I'll remember
 
Doesn't fit with the plot, but hey, if you ever write a story with a bat-wielding protagonist, you've already got a few good sentences written!

It may be indicative of my current mindset, but I was picturing a bat of the mammal persuasion, not the baseball variety.
 
Multiple of things but they all boil down to one thing. How realistic it seems. Stories where the female immediately feel horny, just needs sex, becomes a slut etc. are pretty terrible to me and take me out. I might as well go look up a porn video at that point.

Yea I've heard the argument its fiction why does it have to be realistic. Fiction just means it didn't actually happen in real-life (at least not to the writer) not that it can't have a believable setup and an actual story. This is why I love the stories by the_shadow_rising, he caters so much to what I look for when I want to read a story.

Not that I don't like short 1 or 2 page stories it just depends how its executed, stories from sa2222. Sadly he or she appears to have retired from writing stories or taking a very long break.
 
Too much political correctness, just taken for granted. Real turn-off, to see the guy become a card-carrying feminist type every time. Sometimes, as a distinctive viewpoint, sure. But most men that I know aren't too keen on attending Women's Studies classes. Especially given that their eardrums might snap.

The hymen mis-placement. Yeah, get a grip on basic anatomy, fool.

The "every woman is a ___" and "every guy is a __". Generalize....not. People are flesh-and-blood individuals, not cartoon cut-outs.

Too much macho this, that, or the other....yeah, the polar extreme opposite from my first complaint, and every bit as annoying. Most guys aren't like that, either.

The misuse of adverbs. Yeah, sorry to be a grammar Nazi, but really, does no one know what "momentarily" means? Really, I want to know.

The "everyone is bi" theme. Sorry, but not every guy who sucks a cock or every girl who eats a pussy is gonna love it. It's nice when they discover their sexuality, but it's gone overboard. Just once, I'd like to see someone get physically ill at the reality of same-sex encounter. And, no, I'm not a homophobe, just a realist.

Poorly researched topics and background. If you bother to use context, take the time to get it right, buddy.

Size queens, chastity, and scat. Dealbreakers, every time. They have their readers, and that's okay. People are unique and some will like that. But it's not for me.

Stories that preach at me. Sorry, but I'm reading smut, not a sermon on why I shouldn't swing or fornicate. Get a grip. You're a smut writer, not a preacher (most of the time). If you believe in monogamy, good for you. I don't. Get over it.
 
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Too much political correctness, just taken for granted. Real turn-off, to see the guy become a card-carrying feminist type every time. Sometimes, as a distinctive viewpoint, sure. But most men that I know aren't too keen on attending Women's Studies classes. Especially given that their eardrums might snap.

The hymen mis-placement. Yeah, get a grip on basic anatomy, fool.

The "every woman is a ___" and "every guy is a __". Generalize....not. People are flesh-and-blood individuals, not cartoon cut-outs.

Too much macho this, that, or the other....yeah, the polar extreme opposite from my first complaint, and every bit as annoying. Most guys aren't like that, either.

The misuse of adverbs. Yeah, sorry to be a grammar Nazi, but really, does no one know what "momentarily" means? Really, I want to know.

The "everyone is bi" theme. Sorry, but not every guy who sucks a cock or every girl who eats a pussy is gonna love it. It's nice when they discover their sexuality, but it's gone overboard. Just once, I'd like to see someone get physically ill at the reality of same-sex encounter. And, no, I'm not a homophobe, just a realist.

Poorly researched topics and background. If you bother to use context, take the time to get it right, buddy.

Size queens, chastity, and scat. Dealbreakers, every time. They have their readers, and that's okay. People are unique and some will like that. But it's not for me.

Stories that preach at me. Sorry, but I'm reading smut, not a sermon on why I shouldn't swing or fornicate. Get a grip. You're a smut writer, not a preacher (most of the time). If you believe in monogamy, good for you. I don't. Get over it.

This and cuckold.....though they often overlap. Also, anything with scouries in it, but then I wouldn't click on that.
 
The only good Nazi is a grammar Nazi, so all hail the keepers of the flame!

I don't mind odd or incongruous kinks if that's what the readership's into, provided the writer credits me with some intelligence; but I won't stand for the language being tortured or otherwise abused.

I tried to read FSOG (without buying it - she doesn't need my money) but the prose made me choke long before anything made the heroine gag. I suppose making sexual discovery so intensely boring is an achievement of sorts.

Preaching and unconvincing moral agendas do grate, which isn't to say there shouldn't be a structure with some sort of resolution: Just make it true to the characters involved.

Rant ends.
 
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