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Old 11-05-2017, 05:44 PM   #51
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it simply comes down to your skill as a writer combined with your personal understanding of women and the protaganist's situation. a bad writer is a bad writer regardless of the gender....and a good writer is a good writer. best of luck with the story
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Old 11-07-2017, 01:15 PM   #52
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LOL! That is a bit of a "tell," isn't it? I guess it would be the same if I wrote about a male character who "went down the stairs, feeling his balls swing back and forth."
Now that's a story you should write! I'd love to see a woman write a story about a male character, with all the cliches and stereotypes and caricatures that male writers bring into their stories about women.
("He had 17" biceps and his left ball was 7/8" lower than his right one.") It'd be a riot. Has anybody done this?

If not, maybe we should put that suggestion in the "story ideas" section.
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Old 11-09-2017, 01:41 PM   #53
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I tend towards writing female characters despite being male. I don't usually assume the gender of the character in the story reflects that of the author in any genre, including erotica.

I think it comes down to how well you write your character and whether they are believable in many aspects, not just their gender.

I don't think it's necessary for a male author to adopt a female pen-name just to write a story from a female perspective (unless the point is to deceive the reader into believing what they are reading is true to life) although I am aware some authors adopt pen names which indicate a different gender to their own, or are gender neutral.

I imagine there are many different reasons for that but one might be because readers may prefer to read erotica written by someone of the same gender as them (or the opposite gender) depending on subject matter.

My username here is not gendered but I don't disguise the fact I am male, however if I ever move into publishing I may well choose a gender neutral pen-name for commercial reasons.
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Old 11-09-2017, 02:17 PM   #54
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If a man is writing as a woman for male readers why not.
However from this readers view point - men only know what they think they know about women. It works with generalizations, but the detail often comes off as fictional or second hand stories.
Especially in porn like when the girl can hardly contain herself waiting for the guy to cum all over her face - umm, not really.)
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Old 11-09-2017, 06:51 PM   #55
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If a man is writing as a woman for male readers why not.
However from this readers view point - men only know what they think they know about women. It works with generalizations, but the detail often comes off as fictional or second hand stories.
Especially in porn like when the girl can hardly contain herself waiting for the guy to cum all over her face - umm, not really.)
How much do we really need to “know about women” (your generalization is noted; they’re not all monolithic)? This is porn, not rocket science. I don’t reckon I’d enjoy getting spooge in my eye; why would I assume a woman would enjoy it?

I think a lot of people complicate this too much. People are people. Male or female, they want to be treated as they enjoy being treated, and they like getting off. When they care about their partner, they want their partner to get off too. As long as a writer remembers those little factoids, it doesn’t matter what kind of genitalia they’re writing about. It’ll be believable.

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Old 11-09-2017, 07:14 PM   #56
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Pretty much agreed.

I've written stories from the womans' point of view, and they were enjoyed by women. It's a bit trickier of course, as we can't feel how a vulva and clit feel, but once you've had a few relationships and you begin to have an idea how they're responding to touch, you are pretty much forearmed.

Not everyone is the same of course, within the sensual response of their bodies. As a man, it may surprise some I can't stand the skullfucking thing, roughly in and out of a womans' mouth. I don't want teeth chafing my shaft. Yuck. The majority of women I've been intimate with have had no idea how a mans' cock feels, the rough inarticulate wanking in a fist puts me off, they haven't shown much skill.

Go ahead and write the stories. Crack on!

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Old 11-09-2017, 07:39 PM   #57
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If a man is writing as a woman for male readers why not.
However from this readers view point - men only know what they think they know about women. It works with generalizations, but the detail often comes off as fictional or second hand stories.
Especially in porn like when the girl can hardly contain herself waiting for the guy to cum all over her face - umm, not really.)
Lol. And washing it out of your hair. Nightmare! Where's that shower cap, mom. I'm going on a date tonight.....
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Old 11-09-2017, 07:41 PM   #58
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Brilliant!
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Old 11-09-2017, 08:06 PM   #59
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Ok - what is with the thought that if I guy unzips his pants the girl starts to drool awaiting the opportunity of suck him off? Guys can only write what they want the girl to do or be. I yet to read a story where the guy gets rejected and ends up jacking off in the middle of the night. Just saying...
and yes - shoot some warm welcome cum into your eye and try to smile...
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Old 11-09-2017, 08:14 PM   #60
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Ok - what is with the thought that if I guy unzips his pants the girl starts to drool awaiting the opportunity of suck him off? Guys can only write what they want the girl to do or be. I yet to read a story where the guy gets rejected and ends up jacking off in the middle of the night. Just saying...
and yes - shoot some warm welcome cum into your eye and try to smile...
It comes from short stories being fiction, which includes "I wish" fantasy fiction. This isn't rocket science.
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Old 11-09-2017, 08:14 PM   #61
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Old 11-09-2017, 08:35 PM   #62
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In short; no.

I've female and have written from straight male, bi male, submissive male, straight female, trans female and lesbian female POV's just on lit alone.

I know I get some things grossly incorrect. I recently had two people contact me separately to point out that the average male would NEVER have a particular comment made by a male character comment to the protagonist's wife fly without (at best) telling him to fuck off or (at worst) caving his skull in. When you have two people pull the exact same line from a story and comment on it, you know you've missed the mark. I'm not offended, I just made a mental note of it and vowed to pay more attention to how men react in certain situations.

Likewise, I am not offended when men miss the mark when writing about women. In my experience the biggest mistake men make is not realising that women, as a whole, do not have rampant sex drives. Nor are many of us particularly interested in sleeping with all and sundry, and orgasms don't happen easily. But that's not interesting, is it? Better to tell a horny, dirty tale about a wanton beauty with a passion for cock (or pussy, depending on your category!)
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Old 11-09-2017, 08:38 PM   #63
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To the question - Is it wrong for a man to write a story from the female perspective?

If a man writes as a woman for men, then no - it's fiction so why not.

If a man tries to write a story as a woman for women, then no.

Honestly - do male authors read stories by women? For instance - Soma99 writes stories that contain elements that a woman can and does relate to. From desires to insecurities that come with the territory.

I'm not trying to be a dick here (woman humor) just answering the question.
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Old 11-09-2017, 09:17 PM   #64
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Ok - what is with the thought that if I guy unzips his pants the girl starts to drool awaiting the opportunity of suck him off? Guys can only write what they want the girl to do or be. I yet to read a story where the guy gets rejected and ends up jacking off in the middle of the night. Just saying...
and yes - shoot some warm welcome cum into your eye and try to smile...
If you have yet to read such a story then, with respect, you need to read more. They’re out there, even on this site.
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Old 11-09-2017, 09:30 PM   #65
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To the question - Is it wrong for a man to write a story from the female perspective?

If a man writes as a woman for men, then no - it's fiction so why not.

If a man tries to write a story as a woman for women, then no.

Honestly - do male authors read stories by women? For instance - Soma99 writes stories that contain elements that a woman can and does relate to. From desires to insecurities that come with the territory.

I'm not trying to be a dick here (woman humor) just answering the question.
Untrue and if you don't mind me saying so, offensively sexist. Sorry but you most certainly do sound like a dick.

Fetlife women loved a story I wrote. Yes, from the female perspective.

What do you mean do male authors read stories by women? Jack fucking shite you're talking. You sound like some teen that's never had any relationships or else you have a serious political agenda.

What's "Woman humour" may I ask? You're behaving like the sexes are two alien species. They're not, and I think you've made a total sexist cock of a post.

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Old 11-09-2017, 10:46 PM   #66
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In the end you're writing for your target readers and as long as you hit the target, it doesn't matter. Write as a male, s female, as whatever you want and why not. It's like saying you can't write alien coz you're not an alien. As long as it's what gets the reader going, that's good.

Cumming on a girls face? I think you're confusing your personal tastes with women as a whole. I'm always stunned st just what people like. Ovipositors and gelatine eggs for example. Whatever.
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Old 11-10-2017, 01:15 AM   #67
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Honestly - do male authors read stories by women? For instance - Soma99 writes stories that contain elements that a woman can and does relate to. From desires to insecurities that come with the territory.
What kind of question is that? Of course male authors read stories written by women. Some of the very best erotica and porn writers (to make the distinction - define at your leisure) here are women. Two of the very best twentieth century erotica classics were written by women - Anais Nin and Pauline Reage.

If you're trying to construct some bizarre argument that erotica/porn is a male domain, you are so very wrong about that.
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An interesting Forbes article about the male/female differences:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/singula.../#3493b0330f45

One person simply cannot speak for their entire gender, in fact not even a larger group of people can. To dismiss the possibility of one gender writing convincingly from the others viewpoint is naive, closed minded and somewhat destructive too.
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Old 11-10-2017, 11:36 AM   #69
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Old 11-10-2017, 03:29 PM   #70
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For myself I think it'd depend on if it was first person or 3rd person. For third person I'd say no problem at all. For first person I'm not so sure.
I agree with Chloe, pov is important, but I have read stories written by males and they seemed to have a surprising understanding of women, both sexually and emotional.
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Old 11-10-2017, 04:52 PM   #71
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An interesting Forbes article about the male/female differences:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/singula.../#3493b0330f45

One person simply cannot speak for their entire gender, in fact not even a larger group of people can. To dismiss the possibility of one gender writing convincingly from the others viewpoint is naive, closed minded and somewhat destructive too.
I think this is a very good point. I'm a guy, but that doesn't mean I'm an expert on the POV of all guys. In fact, given the wide range of behaviors among both men and women, it's possible I might be better able to write the POV of certain kinds of women that certain kinds of men. So, it's nonsensical to draw a clear-cut line between what male authors can write and what female authors can write.
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British women might use the term knickers. But British men find the use of 'pants' for trousers slightly startling.
Australian and New Zealand women most usually refer to their panties as their knickers.

I like writing stories set in England and Australia because I get to use the term knickers, and the same would apply if I wrote a story set in New Zealand or Ireland. But it would be ridiculous if I wrote a story set in the USA or Canada and the female characters were talking about their knickers.
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I agree with Chloe, pov is important, but I have read stories written by males and they seemed to have a surprising understanding of women, both sexually and emotional.
Live with women long enough, and love them; even if men are slow learners - which we mostly are - sooner or later some of us figure the bare essentials out. It's when men think they "know" women that they get into trouble. Me, I'm still taking lessons .
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Live with women long enough, and love them; even if men are slow learners - which we mostly are - sooner or later some of us figure the bare essentials out. It's when men think they "know" women that they get into trouble. Me, I'm still taking lessons .
I don't try to understand women anymore. Women understand women and they hate each other. Women think they understand men and hate men too. Women don't really understand men, which makes them do things that cause men to hate them.

The reality is there are no two alike, in either sex, so what you know based on the last one you were with is meaningless with the next one. Stop trying to understand the sex as a whole and try understanding the one you are with. Key to doing that is to forget what you think for a few minutes, ASK them and then LISTEN to what they say WITHOUT trying to predict what they are going to say.
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I don't understand other women.
I don't understand a lot of people.
I don't understand myself half of the time.
I don't even understand when Little Shit* paws at me after I've fed, watered, walked and played with him.

Bearing all this in mind, I feel less and less qualified to write stories nowadays!



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