Size Matters

policywank said:

You can’t compensate for lack of size with great oral skills. Some women prefer oral skills to a large cock. Some are perfectly happy to sacrifice the big cock for better oral skills - but it is a sacrifice nonetheless and she would prefer to have both. And some women just really want that big dick.

Either way I personally think there is no “compensating”. If I order beef and you deliver chicken with a great recipe - I might love it but it still isn’t beef. I may even like your chicken better....sometimes. But there will still come a time when I want beef and if I know you don’t have it I just won’t call. You can do a thousand things to convince me not to have beef and mitigate the associated compromise....but you more than likely can’t make me not want it.

Ask any girl who wants to be filled with dick. Hey do your oral best - I still wish you could put a big dick in me when you are done giving oral. The premise that one compensates for the other implies it is only possible to have one. It’s not true and I want both.

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I had a very short relationship with a woman (Patricia) who had absolutely no interest in foreplay or oral sex giving or receiving. She only enjoyed fucking. I disappointed her 3 times over about 2 weeks or so. I know she was let down by the small size of my penis but my poor stamina meant I completely wasted her time. Most girls I have been with have given one excuse or another for breaking up with me but generally have not directly asserted that it was the disappointing sex. Patricia was very specific when she dumped me. I at least was able to compensate for my underwhelming penis action with other women by other means but no chance with her.

Smallchange4 said:

I had a very short relationship with a woman (Patricia) who had absolutely no interest in foreplay or oral sex giving or receiving. She only enjoyed fucking. I disappointed her 3 times over about 2 weeks or so. I know she was let down by the small size of my penis but my poor stamina meant I completely wasted her time. Most girls I have been with have given one excuse or another for breaking up with me but generally have not directly asserted that it was the disappointing sex. Patricia was very specific when she dumped me. I at least was able to compensate for my underwhelming penis action with other women by other means but no chance with her.

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Not every woman is into penis size and if they are it is not all the time. I doubt if there are many women who make a big cock a prime factor for long term relationships. Despite the ads, there is not many things you can do about a small cock, but plenty of things you can do about stamina.

It is also unusual to find women not interested in foreplay -- you shouldn't have much problem finding one who is.

Justfantasies said:

Not every woman is into penis size and if they are it is not all the time. I doubt if there are many women who make a big cock a prime factor for long term relationships. Despite the ads, there is not many things you can do about a small cock, but plenty of things you can do about stamina.

It is also unusual to find women not interested in foreplay -- you shouldn't have much problem finding one who is.

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I have been with my fair share of women and this post was mainly to highlight the very unusual lack of interest in anything but straight intercourse by this woman. Never experienced such a thing before or since. I posted a thread just now on this particular subject.

Shi_One81 said:

For me, girth matters more than length. Too long and it hurts.

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Exactly the same for my wife. I'm longer and thinner. You can imagine how much sex we have....

Smallchange4 said:

I had a very short relationship with a woman (Patricia) who had absolutely no interest in foreplay or oral sex giving or receiving. She only enjoyed fucking. I disappointed her 3 times over about 2 weeks or so. I know she was let down by the small size of my penis but my poor stamina meant I completely wasted her time. Most girls I have been with have given one excuse or another for breaking up with me but generally have not directly asserted that it was the disappointing sex. Patricia was very specific when she dumped me. I at least was able to compensate for my underwhelming penis action with other women by other means but no chance with her.

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There's been more than one "Patricia" in my life. Like you said in a later post, it's certainly not common for the majority of women out there, but it's not quite a Unicorn either. Thanks for your post!

This is another argument for nonmonogamy

Smallchange4 said:

There has always been arguments about the importance/unimportance of penis size. There are valid points on all sides of the discussion. It all depends on a variety of different factors. I am generally of the opinion that it matters if u make it matter. I have a very small erect penis (a slim 4") and tiny flaccid size of 1.5" My unimpressive erect status has sometimes been a buzz kill for some women but my tiny flaccid size is more damning. Even though most people are aware that flaccid size does not necessarily indicate erect size my soft member is so pathetic it is hard to envision it improving that much. Most times in the public arena be it public showers change rooms urinals where men size themselves up against the competition u gain a rep for being particularly large or small. This can affect your status amongst other males and worse filters out into the female members of work school or social group. Not good if you are in the tiny dick category. I know for certain it has caused more than a few women to have no interest in me sexually. That may seem rather shallow of them but if you line up a group of guys who have equally attractive personalities equally attractive clothed physiques etc etc for the most part The guy who is known to have a tiny cock is probably at a disadvantage.

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There just simply put is no perfect package. Or if there is I haven’t found it. My husband is a wonderful man, a great father, a caring sweet person with about an 8.5 inch (erect) penis. Yep he passed the toilet paper roll test both in length and width. I would never tell him that he might be the most well endowed lover I have ever had. In college I may or may not of had a bigger partner. It’s too close to call..

None of the men I am currently seeing are larger. I won’t share that fact with him. It would just go to his head...

My point is size matters. If it didn’t no one would ask. All of us women are guilty of not wanting to seem shallow, by redirecting the question. Just as we are guilty of telling a guy with no stamina, “It’s okay, it turns me on that I make you so excited that you cum inside me so quick.” Yep it’s exciting until it keeps happening. Then it will leave you wanting more. Even if you came a few times before intercoure.

Size matters or this question wouldn’t have been asked..

Size doesn't matter. Variety That matters!

As a man, I've always thought that both men and women vary in size (yes I know the Vagina expands for childbirth etc) but each woman is a certain size and shape. So the important thing is compatibility, for some women there is such a thing as too big a penis just as for some there is such a thing as too small. Provided you are reasonably compatible size wise it then comes down to emotions, compatible likes and dislikes and "skill" (for want of a better word).

I always thought I was about average, never measured until a friend kept on about until I let her. She kept on that I was the biggest she had seen and I know that in certain positions she was really uncomfortable as apparently I was hitting the "back" (Cervix?). I was a bit above average, but well within the most common range for length and girth. My ex wife told me that she had a lover with a larger penis before we met, interestingly even after we divorced she came back to me for sex occasionally as sex with me was good.

I've known women who can't get my cock in their mouth and others who could deep throat it, I guess you could say that "size matters" then but I would just say that you do something different.

Scareltt said:

There just simply put is no perfect package. Or if there is I haven’t found it. My husband is a wonderful man, a great father, a caring sweet person with about an 8.5 inch (erect) penis. Yep he passed the toilet paper roll test both in length and width. I would never tell him that he might be the most well endowed lover I have ever had. In college I may or may not of had a bigger partner. It’s too close to call..

None of the men I am currently seeing are larger. I won’t share that fact with him. It would just go to his head...

My point is size matters. If it didn’t no one would ask. All of us women are guilty of not wanting to seem shallow, by redirecting the question. Just as we are guilty of telling a guy with no stamina, “It’s okay, it turns me on that I make you so excited that you cum inside me so quick.” Yep it’s exciting until it keeps happening. Then it will leave you wanting more. Even if you came a few times before intercoure.

Size matters or this question wouldn’t have been asked..

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What she said....

Scareltt said:

There just simply put is no perfect package. Or if there is I haven’t found it. My husband is a wonderful man, a great father, a caring sweet person with about an 8.5 inch (erect) penis. Yep he passed the toilet paper roll test both in length and width. I would never tell him that he might be the most well endowed lover I have ever had. In college I may or may not of had a bigger partner. It’s too close to call..

None of the men I am currently seeing are larger. I won’t share that fact with him. It would just go to his head...

My point is size matters. If it didn’t no one would ask. All of us women are guilty of not wanting to seem shallow, by redirecting the question. Just as we are guilty of telling a guy with no stamina, “It’s okay, it turns me on that I make you so excited that you cum inside me so quick.” Yep it’s exciting until it keeps happening. Then it will leave you wanting more. Even if you came a few times before intercoure.

Size matters or this question wouldn’t have been asked..

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So true.

In every way.

I remember listening to a famous female porn star being interviewed on radio by Howard Stern or one of the shock jocks. When asked if there was a particular male partner they enjoyed more than others she said Rocco Siffredi. When asked why she said his size. Case closed.

Smallchange4 said:

I had a very short relationship with a woman (Patricia) who had absolutely no interest in foreplay or oral sex giving or receiving. She only enjoyed fucking. I disappointed her 3 times over about 2 weeks or so. I know she was let down by the small size of my penis but my poor stamina meant I completely wasted her time. Most girls I have been with have given one excuse or another for breaking up with me but generally have not directly asserted that it was the disappointing sex. Patricia was very specific when she dumped me. I at least was able to compensate for my underwhelming penis action with other women by other means but no chance with her.

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We all choose partners for our own unique reasons and quite a few of them are physical characteristics. People talk a big game about being more than skin deep and that is an important value. But we don't really make decisions that way - at the literal extreme end of things - in real life. There is a cognitive dissonance around what is deemed acceptable as a primary physical attraction. If her radiant beauty made you fall in love with her that is romantic but if her nice tits were the deciding factor you are shallow. There is no substance to that distinction.

A big cock is no different than any other physical feature. It may be a key factor for one person but not for another. There is no universal answer to "does it matter?". No one woman or group speaks for all of us. And it is no less valid of a premise than any other. Men and women come with a whole list of characteristics that are or are not appealing to the opposite sex - whether we acknowledge them or not doesn't change the way we feel.

At best we can say that there are enough fish in the sea that there is a good fit out there for each of us. Somebody for who our flaws aren't that important and our strong points are and who has the right mindset of compromise. Yes compromise. We all do it whether we intend to or not. Much as you would like to think that someone loves you in spite the fact that you are overweight there is a good chance that size just doesn't matter that much to them and they have their own flaws so they know that they have to accept yours. That is reality.

It is patently ridiculous to assume that there are no women who prefer a bigger cock. And if a woman feels that way it is equally ridiculous to think you can make up for it with good oral sex. You can't. Stop telling yourself that. Now you might find a woman for whom penis size doesn't matter much or who is happy to make the oral trade-off. She is out there for you. Go find her. Accept that she is the better match for you without denigrating or trying to invalidate the woman who really wants a bigger dick.

Now if you have a small dick and no oral skills and are generally lousy in bed there is a woman for you too. But chances are she isn't very interested in sex. That is your trade-off.

I would say the same to any woman. If you are rail thin with no tits there are some guys who are not going to find that attractive. Guys are not wrong or pigs for wanting a full figured woman. You just need to find the one who is attracted to you and get on with life.

I know this for absolutely sure. Size matters a lot to some women, a little to other women and not at all to some women. I can't tell you what proportions those groups come in. But I can tell you with absolute certainty that there are some women in every group in the world. And they are not wrong for feeling the way that they do.

Feeling pretty left out and unconfident with myself after reading how most women prefer more stamina and bigger cocks compared to my slightly less than average to average size one.

Thanks ladies.

Naughtyboy31 said:

Feeling pretty left out and unconfident with myself after reading how most women prefer more stamina and bigger cocks compared to my slightly less than average to average size one.

Thanks ladies.

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You're not alone. Being a grower, and extremely small when shrunk... Long and narrow when hard ... .. hearing that women want girth... Bang goes my confidence

newhere2learn said:

You're not alone. Being a grower, and extremely small when shrunk... Long and narrow when hard ... .. hearing that women want girth... Bang goes my confidence

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I have the opposite problem. I'm short and thick. The thickness makes it look shorter, too.

KarlMartinK said:

I have the opposite problem. I'm short and thick. The thickness makes it look shorter, too.

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policywank said:

I know this for absolutely sure. Size matters a lot to some women, a little to other women and not at all to some women. I can't tell you what proportions those groups come in. But I can tell you with absolute certainty that there are some women in every group in the world. And they are not wrong for feeling the way that they do.

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There you have it, in a nutshell. We live in a culture that thinks in black and white. Shades of grey are unthinkable (don't even mention shades of color!!)

People love generalizations, and they want everyone to conform to whatever generalization they've adopted. Especially, men love to generalize about women.

People are all different, Different needs, different wants, different loves, different kinks.

vive la différence!

KarlMartinK said:

I have the opposite problem. I'm short and thick. The thickness makes it look shorter, too.

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How short, how thick? My wife mentioned before that really thick and about 5-6" would be ideal.

newhere2learn said:

How short, how thick? My wife mentioned before that really thick and about 5-6" would be ideal.

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Normally around 4.8 inches long, sometimes, a little longer, but never more than 5 inches long. 5.5 inches around. It's interesting to me that I'm thicker than I am long.

KarlMartinK said:

Normally around 4.8 inches long, sometimes, a little longer, but never more than 5 inches long. 5.5 inches around. It's interesting to me that I'm thicker than I am long.

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Perhaps you'd be lucky enough to feel her when inside her then..I'm not.

Her ass on the other hand, amazing.

policywank said:

Interesting choice of words "getting a woman to have sex with you." I know it is just a turn of phrase and I don't mean to infer anything in terms of your intent. It just strikes me as a good reference for another point.

We want to have sex with you (well I don't know you personally but sure let's just go with that). Guys seem to approach us on the basis that we need to be convinced to want sex and often when we do it is in spite of (not because of) your approach, lol. It is like guys get together and try to figure out among themselves what women want without asking women. Or if they do ask a woman they ask one woman and assume she speaks for all 3.5 billion of us. Sure women have common cause just like any other identifiable group, but we are every bit as unique and individual as men.

I remember when I was in my late teens dating a guy who was Mr. Nice. He bought me flowers and wooed me and we made gentle love together. Then I dumped him for a bad boy who fucked me roughly. The first guy was offended and hurt. But it was a growing experience for him. My message to him at the time was something like this....."Your mom doesn't know what I want just because we both have vaginas. You have no right to assume what I want based upon what you heard in church or saw on the Disney channel. The other guy isn't using me or taking advantage of me - I wanted to be spanked and fucked roughly. I don't want him to be my boyfriend and I am thrilled that he isn't chasing me with flowers and trying to sing me a ballad. I probably won't see him again for a couple weeks and I sincerely hope that at that point all we do is have a few drinks and fuck again. I tried to tell you what I want but you were too busy immersing yourself in sappy ideas of what I am supposed to want.....listening to everyone but me. If you respect me.....actually respect ME.....you will accept me exactly as I am not as male society tells me to be."

It brings to mind comment I saw on here months ago. The topic was about how guys treat women. And one guy was a very old fashioned type of person and took the strident "this is the way I was raised so this is the way I will do it no matter what anyone says." To me his idea of respect was fundamentally disrespectful. It started from the premise that their is one universal idea of the way people want to be treated that supersedes any individual's actual preference. It doesn't matter what the parameters are - if you are telling a woman how she should be treated rather than listening to her then you are not respecting her.

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WOW WOW WOW.....boy did you hit home on this one for me. Your middle paragraph on dating the bad boy.....kinda grounded me in a way; that is the way I felt but could never put it into words and explain it clearly to my self or others.
That being said it really brought up some really long buried emotions that have not felt in a long long time.....but thank you....
I was off track because it had nothing to do with penis size....just how you felt and treated the guy.

policywank said:

Interesting choice of words "getting a woman to have sex with you." I know it is just a turn of phrase and I don't mean to infer anything in terms of your intent. It just strikes me as a good reference for another point.

We want to have sex with you (well I don't know you personally but sure let's just go with that). Guys seem to approach us on the basis that we need to be convinced to want sex and often when we do it is in spite of (not because of) your approach, lol. It is like guys get together and try to figure out among themselves what women want without asking women. Or if they do ask a woman they ask one woman and assume she speaks for all 3.5 billion of us. Sure women have common cause just like any other identifiable group, but we are every bit as unique and individual as men.

I remember when I was in my late teens dating a guy who was Mr. Nice. He bought me flowers and wooed me and we made gentle love together. Then I dumped him for a bad boy who fucked me roughly. The first guy was offended and hurt. But it was a growing experience for him. My message to him at the time was something like this....."Your mom doesn't know what I want just because we both have vaginas. You have no right to assume what I want based upon what you heard in church or saw on the Disney channel. The other guy isn't using me or taking advantage of me - I wanted to be spanked and fucked roughly. I don't want him to be my boyfriend and I am thrilled that he isn't chasing me with flowers and trying to sing me a ballad. I probably won't see him again for a couple weeks and I sincerely hope that at that point all we do is have a few drinks and fuck again. I tried to tell you what I want but you were too busy immersing yourself in sappy ideas of what I am supposed to want.....listening to everyone but me. If you respect me.....actually respect ME.....you will accept me exactly as I am not as male society tells me to be."

It brings to mind comment I saw on here months ago. The topic was about how guys treat women. And one guy was a very old fashioned type of person and took the strident "this is the way I was raised so this is the way I will do it no matter what anyone says." To me his idea of respect was fundamentally disrespectful. It started from the premise that their is one universal idea of the way people want to be treated that supersedes any individual's actual preference. It doesn't matter what the parameters are - if you are telling a woman how she should be treated rather than listening to her then you are not respecting her.

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Bravo! So true on so many levels. It's the hallmark of the mediocre mind to believe that which suits them to be true irrespective of any facts to support their premise. As a young teen, a girl I was going with turned me over for some other boy because, in her words "he treated me like shit!"

Everyone should listen...

suzyque72 said:

What she said....

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Good advice, is good advice..

Justfantasies said:

Not every woman is into penis size and if they are it is not all the time. I doubt if there are many women who make a big cock a prime factor for long term relationships. Despite the ads, there is not many things you can do about a small cock, but plenty of things you can do about stamina.

It is also unusual to find women not interested in foreplay -- you shouldn't have much problem finding one who is.

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She was the only one ever. That is why I posted about it because I thought it was rather odd. Not bothered about the small cock as I developed the SPH fetish and as far as stamina goes much improved but inconsistent and also not bothered about that either. My concerns about these things are well in the past. It has not prevented me enjoying many relationships.

Scareltt said:

Good advice, is good advice..

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Indeed!