Old 02-11-2018, 03:35 AM   #1
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Litlog2018++

Let's have a new blog authored jointly by the entire PF&D, post here to your heart desire.

Thus, Litlog2018++ is a PF&D's blog, but it can be more than that. It should be an incubator of new ideas, of new topics. Imagine that the whole PF&D is like a ping-pong table. One half of the table is the rest of this board (i.e everything on PF&D but this blog). And the other half of this ping-pong table is Litlog2018++. Let the ideas bounce back and forth from one half to the other--ping--pong--ping--pong--ping--...

Remember: blog + ping-pong.
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Old 02-11-2018, 08:09 PM   #2
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Descartes

In my poem "jazz" I had a stanza:

Descartes missed by a mile
thinking is a distant
runner up to being


Is this text fragment clear to you or obscure or what?

Mainly, regardless of clarity, does this text have an artistic value to you or is it--I don't know--boring?

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Old 02-11-2018, 09:39 PM   #3
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In my poem "jazz" I had a stanza:

Descartes missed by a mile
thinking is a distant
runner up to being


Is this text fragment clear to you or obscure or what?

Mainly, regardless of clarity, does this text have an artistic value to you or is it--I don't know--boring?

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http://forum.literotica.com/showpost...7&postcount=25
Im a slow ponderous thinker, and being a non educated monkey, descartes had to be googled, but the knowledge opened the lock of the excerpt.

From my perspective it thrives within the framework of the longer text, but falls flat without the mood created by the rest of the piece.

Being in a moment without thinking is brilliant but we always seem to resort back to a default state of thinking even if its only about the worst of what we are suffering.

If we were simply being then the concept of freeing the mind of its incessant buzzing and existing for the moment that the music creates adds more artistic merit to
1) the lyrical subject
2) the emotional and logical progressive conncection for the reader

As to the lines themselves, being able to exist without thinking is for me a momentary bliss so yes it is safe to assume that "being" is a more satisfying place than thinking because of basic value, i.e. thinking is more common than being.

Could you live your whole life simply being, or is thinking more important to survival.
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Old 02-11-2018, 11:34 PM   #4
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Hi todski, long time no see (mea culpa).

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[the stanza] thrives within the framework of the longer text [the poem],...
For instance, on a detail level, just view the stanza together with its preceding line:

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i listen to Duke
Descartes missed by a mile
thinking is a distant
runner up to being
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Look at "...Duke / Descartes...d..."--an alliteration (the art of words). Thus there is a local and, if you read the total, the global integration. Even, within these 4 lines, the global theme thinking vs being already appears artistically as noise vs music.

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[the stanza] falls flat without the mood created by the rest of the piece.
(Of course, the total mood is crucial).

Within the stanza itself, you still have the same alliteration "Descartes...d... / ... distant". You get another artistic (geometric) equivalent of the dichotomy thinking vs being--thus, you get a scene, where thinking is jogging far behind being; word distant is not an abstraction, it is moody. (Well, I used to be a long-distance runner so to me, this scene creates a familiar emotion).

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Todski, next, you address the material contents of the poem rather than the artistic aspects (GREAT! ). This is a good moment to close this comment of mine, and I want to go back to you in the next comment.
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Old 02-12-2018, 04:26 AM   #5
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Snow in AA(MI) and S.Korea

There was a lot of snow during the past few days in Ann Arbor (Michigan).

There was a lot in S.Korea, and they also have wind. So much that for the first time in 20 years, it was not possible to conduct some of the Olympic competitions.

It was possible to go for a walk in Ann Arbor though, except that I didn't, not these days.
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Old 02-14-2018, 03:04 AM   #6
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A confusion about the notion of "thinking"

My poem "jazz" assumed the common understanding (or should I say "misunderstanding") of the "thinking" notion. It's only natural since I wanted my poem to be understood without introducing any discussion of "thinking"--"jazz" is a simple straight poem.

Indeed, most of the people confuse thinking and word communication, including a word communication with oneself. Thinking and expressing thinking in words are two different activities. In a contrast to a number of shallow philosophers, these things are drastically different.

Sometimes words get a life of their own. The funny thing is that so-sophisticated guys replace thinking by words, while they pretend that they think (they think that they think ). Then words don't serve any useful purpose. Well, occasionally, words free from any profound thinking can be good for entertainment. Otherwise, the so-sophisticated guys play oh so-intellectual intellectuals. So funny (hm, often, it is not funny at all).

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Old 02-15-2018, 12:52 AM   #7
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Happy Valentine's poem

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dreamy senselessness


i'll wake you up
and tell you a story
then let you sleep

when you wake up
you'll let me know
am i alive
or just a dream










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Old 02-15-2018, 01:35 AM   #8
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Happy Valentine's poem, 1993

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summer phone


your voice nests in my ear
the air's the summer affair
soft waves of your voice oh dear
carry me through the summer air

you study with thunder
text after text a wide choice
but my snow white phone melts under
the summer melody of your voice














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Old 02-15-2018, 02:49 AM   #9
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Happy Valentine's poem, 1985

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trela treal morela
I would never guess that you're a Cinderella
'cos I knew that you're a queen

trela morela Cinderella
it's time for wine and mozzarella
and let me listen to your story
I will adore it
















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Old 02-15-2018, 04:17 PM   #10
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Great sport people vs disgusting tv and journalists and other clowns.

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https://www.cbsnews.com/news/radio-h...rstool-sports/
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Another topic: "bigman" has posted the following, see:
http://forum.literotica.com/showpost.php?p=88385823
QUOTE:

If you had a real chance.
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Hypothetically, to make something of yourself what would you do?
How would you promote your art, is it from the heart?

Say if the doors were opened?

END of QUOTE

Hypothetically?! How about the real case and a real answer:
You may bring a horse to a river but you cannot make it drink.
It's like with this disgusting Patrick Connor and his equally disgusting crowd--they see the snow and the beautiful scene and Winter Olympics but these guys still stink.

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Old 02-15-2018, 05:27 PM   #11
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https://www.cbsnews.com/news/radio-h...rstool-sports/
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Another topic: "bigman" has posted the following, see:
http://forum.literotica.com/showpost.php?p=88385823
QUOTE:

If you had a real chance.
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Hypothetically, to make something of yourself what would you do?
How would you promote your art, is it from the heart?

Say if the doors were opened?

END of QUOTE

Hypothetically?! How about the real case and a real answer:
You may bring a horse to a river but you cannot make it drink.
It's like with this disgusting Patrick Connor and his equally disgusting crowd--they see the snow and the beautiful scene and Winter Olympics but these guys still stink.
Interestingly enough I found the radio announcers comment mildly amusing, but im of lesser ilk than high minded intellectuals. Was the comment appropriate for national radio clearly not, but as a side joke between myself and another male colleague I would have laughed at it.

Transcending male nature via constant suppression is likely to cause disintegrated outbursts and moral grandstanding, where as accepting what male nature is, accepting what we are capable of and making a choice to do one thing is in my neanderthal opinion smarter than exerting by force the willfull supression of masculinity and sexuality.
Boo hiss throw rocks at me, but for all its worth the reverse objectification of men is never brought up or discusse, whyy is masculine and male nature derided, ridden into the ground and trampled on at every turn?

As to the idiot spouting on about art, your assessment there i agree with more thouroughly
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Old 02-15-2018, 09:52 PM   #12
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[...] high minded intellectuals.
This has nothing to do with any "high minded intellectuals", that's a NONSENSE.

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I would have laughed at it.
Tell me todski exactly (quote!) what you'd laugh about there, what was so funny or funny at all?

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Transcending male nature via constant suppression is likely to cause disintegrated outbursts and moral grandstanding, where as accepting what male nature is, accepting what we are capable of and making a choice to do one thing is in my neanderthal opinion smarter than exerting by force the willfull supression of masculinity and sexuality.
You're not representing the whole male population, very FAR from it. You represent the views of a sick fragment of society, namely of insecure and one way or another, disturbed males, who don't respect another person regardless of their status or situation. It follows that these disturbed guys do not respect themselves, thus, they don't deserve to be respected (until they learn to be humane).

Mean statements coupled with a fake smile pass for humor, and this is disgusting too. For instance, be it a young woman or old, attractive or unattractive, educated or uneducated, successful or struggling, whatever--the sick guys will say their sick stuff about her just because she is a woman. In the given case, this is a young person, she's virtually still a child, she won a gold Olympic medal which stands for her talent, character, hard work, ... The sick guys will still demean her, and these other clowns don't have guts to punch that sick Conner's teeth in or at least to tell him to shut up his dirty mouth.

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See (it's great):
http://www.businessinsider.com/chloe...oarding-2018-2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3opTwpiCZ6c -- Chloe Kim celebrates!!! (Guts!)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ps7rQmSUq1s -- a nice personal accent.
And now something UGLY (sleazy former MLB pitcher Dallas Braden, sleazy Brody Stevens, and criminally sleazy Patrick Connor):
https://deadspin.com/barstool-radio-...oly-1822974775
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