Senna Jawa
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They don't have to be whole poems. It's enough when an original metaphor or a characteristic phrase is more or less repeated in two poems by two different authors independently, without having any idea about the other one. Sometimes poems could have been written years apart, sometimes about the same time. For instance, there is a famous Vladimir Mayakovsky's poem "A cloud in pants". But almost the same metaphore appeared about the same time or even a little bit earlier in a poem by another Russian poet, perhaps "a cloud in trousers". That other poet complained jokingly or bitterly that Mayakovsky has stolen his trousers--he was known for special, elegant white trousers. Unfortunately, I don't remember the name of the other poet, and it's hard to find in in Internet (can you help?).
Thus let's collect pairs (or triples??) of unrelated related poems. Professionals should provide many examples. Being an amateur, let me show one pair, from rec.arts.poems (however the older one, mine, was written several years before Internet). First I'll present the newer one, by Tom Wachtel, known to you already from another thread here. Then I'll follow by my own--the older one. Once again, it's fun to discuss poemtry by looking at different pieces, translations, etc,; and in this case by checking on the unrelated relatives.
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so look...
it's a cliff
and you jump
so what? what's the diff?
well, on the way down (smooth)
time to think about the brink
the sky is blue for you
Tom Wachtel
rec.art.poems, 1991-10-24
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wh,
1985
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Thus let's collect pairs (or triples??) of unrelated related poems. Professionals should provide many examples. Being an amateur, let me show one pair, from rec.arts.poems (however the older one, mine, was written several years before Internet). First I'll present the newer one, by Tom Wachtel, known to you already from another thread here. Then I'll follow by my own--the older one. Once again, it's fun to discuss poemtry by looking at different pieces, translations, etc,; and in this case by checking on the unrelated relatives.
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so look...
it's a cliff
and you jump
so what? what's the diff?
well, on the way down (smooth)
time to think about the brink
the sky is blue for you
Tom Wachtel
rec.art.poems, 1991-10-24
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when falling from the cliff
let's enjoy the zooming sand
and hope for the merciful death
to catch us softly before we end
let's enjoy the zooming sand
and hope for the merciful death
to catch us softly before we end
wh,
1985
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