Wtf Is It With The Interest In Incest?

I felt like bumping this thread because i'm trying to understand the rampant interest everyone seems to have in incest stories.

At least you're honest about trying to understand it. Practically no one will admit to that much. In fact, the ones that deny it more often than not are the very ones secretly harboring those thoughts, deeply engaging in the fantasy at times, and sometimes acting upon it.

Not sure myself. I've discussed it, but not w/a relative. I have some super secret thoughts that flash through my head sometimes, but never remotely thought about acting upon them. In my world, that type of fantasy and reality are best kept apart.
 
I drifted through the thread and I suppose I could wax philosophical about the topic and give my opinions.

But I'm not going to do that.

My guess is the OP does like incest, is acting offended by it and under the guise of why the hell are people interested in it, he's reading and very much enjoying the conversation.

Sorry, not going to add to the voyeurism of someone who most likely reads incest stories, gets off to them then leaves anon comment telling the author what a sick prick they are. That's what I'm smelling here after this bump when four pages of responses and discussion were provided.

Sorry to spoil the fun.

Aha! I think you may be on to something!

That sort of stuff is just not my thing. I did try to read a few of those type of stories. Not going to say which ones. But I found them to be almost comical. Why? The characters supposedly lived in the same house for many years and yet seemed to know little to nothing about what the other person's naked body looked like or even the type of clothing they wore.

This leads me to wonder what their real home life was like. We saw things whether we wanted to or not, just in passing through a room and such. And there was just nothing appealing to me there. So... I just don't know and I can't fathom it.

I would also have to say that things that are taboo do not necessarily appeal to me. I can think of plenty of things off the top of my head that are taboo. I also don't wear white shoes after Labor Day. Oh wait! I never wear white shoes. Or anything else white. White is a color that doesn't appeal to me.
 
I'm just trying to imagine the egg insertion. Lol. I'm tempted....

Now I will have to look this up. Some years ago, I had a male friend talk me into using egg white as a lubricant. It seemed rather obvious to me that he didn't cook much because when you get egg white on your hands, it tends to dry out and get sticky if not washed off right away. But he surmised that it looked somewhat like natural vaginal secretions and thought it would be cool.

Like a fool, I did try it and report back to him. As I said, he was just friend. We talked about anything and everything but there was no sexual spark between the two of us.

I was supposed to apply the egg white and then masturbate. Well... He got a call not long after with a report of me having to take a shower and being totally turned off. Just wasn't for me.

He had me try a few other things that were just as idiotic, and like a fool, I did try them. He's probably out there getting some other female to try this stuff as we are no longer friends.
 
Incest is the one category I will never read or write. I just can't.

I'm fine with others loving it, but it's just not my cuppa.
 
I would also have to say that things that are taboo do not necessarily appeal to me. I can think of plenty of things off the top of my head that are taboo. I also don't wear white shoes after Labor Day. Oh wait! I never wear white shoes. Or anything else white. White is a color that doesn't appeal to me.

Are you sure?

Most categories on this site, especially the popular ones, have some element of the taboo about them. Whether people acknowledge it to themselves or not they find things erotic because they are forbidden or disapproved of by others, or at least regarded as out of the ordinary: noncon, exhibitionism, voyeurism, interracial, young-old relationships, cheating/hot wives, BDSM, pee, homosexuality, cross-dressing, mind control. Not to mention, of course, more extreme categories that aren't allowed on Lit, such as snuff, pedophilia, and bestiality.

Plain vanilla sex is not what most people want to read about. They want something that adds the forbidden, the naughty, the unconventional, the fantastic, the spicy. Incest combines all these things -- at least it does for its readers.
 
The characters supposedly lived in the same house for many years and yet seemed to know little to nothing about what the other person's naked body looked like or even the type of clothing they wore.

I agree, but we are at the mercy of the 18+ standard. We all know that 95% of all incest happens at an early age, yet in this realm of fantasy we are beholden to believe that it happens immediately after one graduates from high school. It is limiting, yes, which, as you stated, makes it almost comical. What can we do, though? Taboo/incest is the one category that really suffers from "No Underage Sex" decree.
 
I like stories where I can identify myself with the (main) characters. As such, the reason why I dislike the idea of Incest stories could be the fear that I might identify myself with those characters too.

Vice versa, if I'm appalled by the main characters, then it is very unlikely that I do like the story.

That’s my motivation here as a writer: to humanize the characters I create and make them relatable to the reader. What affects my writing beyond that is real world experiences I wish to share and my morals. Those two factors pretty much influence the categories I would ever post a story in or read. I don’t hate any particular category, but as another poster said - if it doesn’t interest you, then ignore it.
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Are you sure?

Most categories on this site, especially the popular ones, have some element of the taboo about them. Whether people acknowledge it to themselves or not they find things erotic because they are forbidden or disapproved of by others, or at least regarded as out of the ordinary: noncon, exhibitionism, voyeurism, interracial, young-old relationships, cheating/hot wives, BDSM, pee, homosexuality, cross-dressing, mind control. Not to mention, of course, more extreme categories that aren't allowed on Lit, such as snuff, pedophilia, and bestiality.

Plain vanilla sex is not what most people want to read about. They want something that adds the forbidden, the naughty, the unconventional, the fantastic, the spicy. Incest combines all these things -- at least it does for its readers.

Let me start by saying that I first heard of this site from someone at the now defunct Bianca's Smut Shack. It was someone who has a menstrual fetish and sometimes writes stories here. I do not have a menstrual fetish but was just looking through the various forums there and was astounded at the misinformation being posted about periods and on other boards, various types of sex. I became friends with the person who ran the menstrual forum. She's younger than me but we both have the same birthday and have other things in common.

I realize that a lot of people do consider menstrual sex or even talking about menstruation to be a taboo subject. I don't. To me it's just a fact of life. Oddly enough, I know a lot of people with my same birthday. One of them walked into a crowded room and shouted that her period started and did anyone have a tampon? Someone got one out of her purse and threw it to her. I will add that there were a couple of men in that room. Nobody acted uncomfortable or even batted an eye.

Some of the other things you have mentioned are also things that I don't personally consider taboo. Such as homosexuality, crossdressing, interracial, and even some BDSM. I am not one who would live a BDSM lifestyle but I was with one guy who enjoyed it on occasion and we both dabbled into it. I also think that by and large, age does not matter, provided that both people are legal age. I will say that when I read a story about say...an 18 year old with a 90 year old, especially if it is a wealthy 90 year old, then I might think that the younger person really has an ulterior motive. But I have been with both younger and older men.

I also live in an area where there are a lot of gay and transgendered people. That sort of thing is fairly normal around here. One of my friend's brothers is gay and used to run a nightclub that held Drag Queen shows. Taboo? Not for me. And many years ago when I placed an ad for a roommate, I had a crossdresser call me. I asked him what size he wore. I'd had problems with prior female roommates taking my clothing and I sure as heck didn't want to come home to find some guy walking out in one of my dresses, looking hotter than me! Hehehe. Actually the deal breaker there was the floor. He wanted hardwood floor and mine were not.

I am not entirely sure what you mean by mind control. Do you mean things like remote seduction or telepathic/astral projection sex? If so, I don't think those are taboo either. Perhaps not mainstream but I see no reason for them to be taboo.

Some of the stuff you mention is stuff that I am just plain not into and perhaps overall I am more vanilla than anything. If the type of stories I write are not stories that some here are into, that's okay with me. I write about what I know and like and I know at least some people enjoy it. I'm not out to set any records by taking stories to extremes or anything like that.
 
I agree, but we are at the mercy of the 18+ standard. We all know that 95% of all incest happens at an early age, yet in this realm of fantasy we are beholden to believe that it happens immediately after one graduates from high school. It is limiting, yes, which, as you stated, makes it almost comical. What can we do, though? Taboo/incest is the one category that really suffers from "No Underage Sex" decree.

That could be. I don't really know as I'm just not into it. I have one brother and the mere thought of having sex with him or really, any of my other relatives just flat out takes away my sex drive totally. So... I just can't relate.
 
Some of the other things you have mentioned are also things that I don't personally consider taboo. Such as homosexuality, crossdressing, interracial, and even some BDSM. I am not one who would live a BDSM lifestyle but I was with one guy who enjoyed it on occasion and we both dabbled into it. I also think that by and large, age does not matter, provided that both people are legal age. I will say that when I read a story about say...an 18 year old with a 90 year old, especially if it is a wealthy 90 year old, then I might think that the younger person really has an ulterior motive. But I have been with both younger and older men.

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Some of the stuff you mention is stuff that I am just plain not into and perhaps overall I am more vanilla than anything. If the type of stories I write are not stories that some here are into, that's okay with me. I write about what I know and like and I know at least some people enjoy it. I'm not out to set any records by taking stories to extremes or anything like that.

I take you at your word. You may not be into categories that are taboo, but you don't say what you ARE interested in. The things I mentioned above may not be taboo to you, but they are taboo to many people. Like homosexuality and interracial, for example. As far as I'm concerned, there's nothing taboo about them.

But no astute person can deny that the taboo is out there, and important, for many people. In the case of interracial, the overwhelmingly most popular type is white women and black men. Obviously part of what drives the interest in this category is the traditional taboo on this kind of sex, and the stereotypes that relate to it (white women feminine and innocent and helpless, black men big, strong, brutish, and well-endowed).

Taboo might be a strong word to apply to mature stories, but I don't think it's wholly off. The "norm" is for the partners to be relatively close in age, or for the man to be somewhat older. A relationship with a woman significantly older still is unusual, and the unusual element makes it more interesting, and possibly more kinky and more erotic. The erotic is, to some degree, about breaching norms. AT least, for a lot of people.

Taboos are very useful for writers, because they create dramatic tension and conflict. A romance or erotic story is boring if the partners get together without any tension or conflict or reluctance. Taboo creates that.
 
I take you at your word. You may not be into categories that are taboo, but you don't say what you ARE interested in. The things I mentioned above may not be taboo to you, but they are taboo to many people. Like homosexuality and interracial, for example. As far as I'm concerned, there's nothing taboo about them.

But no astute person can deny that the taboo is out there, and important, for many people. In the case of interracial, the overwhelmingly most popular type is white women and black men. Obviously part of what drives the interest in this category is the traditional taboo on this kind of sex, and the stereotypes that relate to it (white women feminine and innocent and helpless, black men big, strong, brutish, and well-endowed).

Taboo might be a strong word to apply to mature stories, but I don't think it's wholly off. The "norm" is for the partners to be relatively close in age, or for the man to be somewhat older. A relationship with a woman significantly older still is unusual, and the unusual element makes it more interesting, and possibly more kinky and more erotic. The erotic is, to some degree, about breaching norms. AT least, for a lot of people.

Taboos are very useful for writers, because they create dramatic tension and conflict. A romance or erotic story is boring if the partners get together without any tension or conflict or reluctance. Taboo creates that.

I did say that I am mostly into vanilla stuff and I am. I am also heterosexual. I am willing to try some stuff, depending on the person and the circumstances. Mainly I just like sex. Pretty much ordinary sex. I do like giving oral and I do like anal with the right person. Also edging. Some BDSM. I think that pretty much sums it up.
 
Taboo- Shotacon/Lolicon, the undiscussables

I have wondered once or twice whether 'Taboo' subject matter has more appeal in culturally repressed societies. My estimation is that overall (with notable exceptions) Americans are more repressed than Europeans, but the Japanese are far more repressed again. Yet the Japanese not only have a much bigger (production per head ) porn industry than the USA, but one which caters to some very esoteric tastes.

Shotacon/Older women/young boys, for example, is immensely popular, amazingly, more so with female consumers than males. But no discussion allowed here so I won't.;)
 
I did say that I am mostly into vanilla stuff and I am.
Does your sexuality limit what you read or write? I write stuff in areas I have zero interest in experiencing and marginal interest in reading -- like BDSM, incest, rape, murder, various fetishes. Any taboo detail is a plot point or bunny. Any taboo violation is a vicarious experience for the reader. My lack of desire for a direct experience doesn't stop me from spinning disturbing stories.
 
Does your sexuality limit what you read or write? I write stuff in areas I have zero interest in experiencing and marginal interest in reading -- like BDSM, incest, rape, murder, various fetishes. Any taboo detail is a plot point or bunny. Any taboo violation is a vicarious experience for the reader. My lack of desire for a direct experience doesn't stop me from spinning disturbing stories.

My feelings as well. What I do, what I read, and what I write are three different and often wholly unconnected things.
 
I agree with Simon. If there's any kind of legitimization process going on, it's that we're seeing more things like "Romeo and Juliet" laws which take into account the absurdity of saying that a 15-year old having consensual sex with a 17-year old is fine, but one year later when one of them turns 18 and the other is 16, it's suddenly statutory rape and deserving of a prison sentence + registration as a sex offender for the older party despite the fact they're a dating couple. This is a far cry from legalizing pedophilia.

Is there any significant section of the populace or our government actively advocating the legalization of adults boffing kids, or is this the province of a few whack-jobs swapping kiddie pics on the Darknet being held up by some branch of the media as a "serious concern"?
Actually, in The Netherlands a few years ago there was a political party trying to lower the minimum age of people having sex. I believe they wanted to drop it down to 14, but not sure about that anymore. They survived for a year or two before they disbanded, I think, with people calling them the pedo-party and them not getting enough support because people didn't dare publicly supporting them and getting associated with people 'trying to legalize pedophaelia'.

On the other hand, there are already laws that allow a 15 year old having sex with a 17 year old. If I recall correctly, a 16-year old having sex with an 18 year old is okay too, as long as the gap isn't larger than two years. Although it's an interesting thing to know, it's not something I would go actively looking for to read up on the details.

As for people reading incest stories and people committing incest, I think there are two different things there. I feel the people who act on incest in real life probably do it out of spite and/or enjoy non-con or domination. Or are simply warped in some sort of way, which can still be the case. Of course, that's only the type of incest we (US, Europe) hear about on the news. The incest someone else said in other countries, where marrying your nephew is fairly common, that might be a little different.
As for people reading and writing about incest and having it as a fantasy, I believe - and of course that's merely an assumption, but still - they enjoy them because it's consensual. It's still romantic, not something that inspires fear which seems to be the case for all incestuous cases we hear about on the news.
 
Looked through some of the OP's posts. Lo and behold, a non con fan based on story suggestions and other posts. Now of course there's nothing wrong with that, just as there's nothing wrong with I/T here.

But its funny how you're wtf with incest, but you love rape and force and women being abused. Okay, not funny, typical. Fairly or not, male rape fans are seen as a sleazy demographic and incest is about the only thing they can point to and say well this is sick too...

Both are crime kinks as in both get you jailed in real life and are abuse.

But see here the stories are 18+ so no minors are being abused like real life incest and 99% of taboo stories here are consensual...in fact if you want to be torn apart in the Taboo category write non con incest and you'll be ruined.

Why? because incest fans know what the crap is in real life and just want to keep their 18+ consensual fun Kay Parker style fantasies as just those without reality creeping in.

Non con? Let's see in real life its abuse and rape....in stories here its....abuse and rape.

Female non con fans have rape fantasies, hot to think about, but would never do it, but as the victim...

male non con fans are getting off as the rapist, meaning the thrill is the pain, abuse, screaming, begging and hurting and degradation of the woman, that's what you get off on and the stories here are actually more vicious than the real life crimes.

So enjoy you're casting stones to make yourself feel better. Anyone looking through your history like I just did knows what you are.

End of the day you're free to enjoy what you enjoy, we're all free to have our outre kinks and deep dark desires and can even discuss them here.

But don't preach against a category full of unrealistic fantasy stories when your real kink hurts women just as much in fantasy as it does reality.
 
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OP is one of those guys. "Let me point out some other questionable kink in the eyes of society so no one finds out how terrible my kink is." Because you're right, LC, the incest on Lit is completely make believe and converted from it's typical form people expect to encounter into a complete fantasy that bears hardly a resemblance to its real life counterpart 99% of the time, while non-con remains non-con wherever non-con takes place.

This is true, but, while I don't find non-con erotic myself, I don't think you can infer anything about a guy from the fact he likes to read or writes non-con stories, any more than you can infer anything about someone who reads or writes any other kink.

People like Saw movies. I don't get that -- wanting to watch movies where people are sadistically dismembered and murdered. But I know people who like these movies who are not sicko, violent people. I don't think Eli Roth, the director who makes these movies, has secret desires to kill people. I think he probably sees this kind of movie as a kind of twisted roller coaster. But I don't really know.

There are a lot of dark corners in people's hearts. It doesn't make them bad people, and if they want to read stories that appeal to those dark corners, that doesn't make them bad, either.
 
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