Tax the Rich?
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The military IS paid by the people it protects - American citizens.
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You can turn yourself in now, traitor. Bring a rope.
Does America NEED another bridge to nowhere? Likely not, but if a powerful member WANTS it, it's funded. Congress has decided that America NEEDS to transfer cash from middle-income working taxpayers to corporations' foreign shareholders, and also NEEDS many military hardware programs that don't fucking work. Talk to your congresscritters about these needs, hey?
All other states were created by Congress; except for the independent Republics of California and Texas, and the overthrown Kingdom of Hawai'i, they were never sovereign entities.
You should turn yourself in now, traitor. Don't forget the rope.
We went over the NEEDS vs WANTS thang awhile back. Read your fucking constitution. Congress, not you, decides what's needed and, implicitly, what each member wants.
Does America NEED another bridge to nowhere? Likely not, but if a powerful member WANTS it, it's funded. Congress has decided that America NEEDS to transfer cash from middle-income working taxpayers to corporations' foreign shareholders, and also NEEDS many military hardware programs that don't fucking work. Talk to your congresscritters about these needs, hey?
States haven't been sovereign since the Articles of Confederation were replaced by the Constitution. By ratifying Articles I and IV the original states ceded any sovereignty to the gov't of the United States of America.
All other states were created by Congress; except for the independent Republics of California and Texas, and the overthrown Kingdom of Hawai'i, they were never sovereign entities.
You should turn yourself in now, traitor. Don't forget the rope.
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Still waiting....
(Has anyone noticed that when you ask the Left for specifics, you're answered with silence?)
Meanwhile...
To which came this reply:
No logical or factual response, simply an inarticulate ad hominem attack.
I guess we've established who's right.
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That's pretty much SOP
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BotanyBoy
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Nah, because people want to hurt those EVIL corporation via tax....dumb fuckers don't realize that corporations don't pay tax.
Oh look Hypoxia is full of shit and spreading hysterical lefty lies again.
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Dawn and bot just got their assholes ruined...again.
Just a few highlights from their absolute destruction:
"the Senate bill would hand half of the tax cut’s overall value to filers earning more than $200,000"
"It’s probably the most regressive tax cut in the past 50 years"
Wow, just wow. Look at all the specifics. Your assholes are so gaping you could drive an Orange Nazi colored truck through there. You guys make it so fucking easy. No wonder you always come on here spouting lies and begging for specifics (when you've got no data to back up your bullshit. You guys are fucking pathetic.
As always,
Just a few highlights from their absolute destruction:
"the Senate bill would hand half of the tax cut’s overall value to filers earning more than $200,000"
"It’s probably the most regressive tax cut in the past 50 years"
Wow, just wow. Look at all the specifics. Your assholes are so gaping you could drive an Orange Nazi colored truck through there. You guys make it so fucking easy. No wonder you always come on here spouting lies and begging for specifics (when you've got no data to back up your bullshit. You guys are fucking pathetic.
As always,
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I guarantee Bitter Boy has no idea what's in the Tax Bill.
He gets all his information from the "Ds" he sees through his sniper lens on the web. IF they like or don't like it, he makes his ignorant judgments based on that.
He's a big old fraud.
He gets all his information from the "Ds" he sees through his sniper lens on the web. IF they like or don't like it, he makes his ignorant judgments based on that.
He's a big old fraud.
Oh look Hypoxia is full of shit and spreading hysterical lefty lies again.
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Hypoxia
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I guarantee NOBODY has any idea of what all is in the bill.
Doesn't matter. I recall the words of a US Army captain in VietNam: "Nobody know which end of the stick is up but that doesn't matter because tomorrow the other end will be up."
What tax bill? It is still being rewritten because fuckups:
The Senate GOP Accidentally Killed Some of Its Donors’ Favorite Tax Breaks
Oops.
Are there any ratings for congressional fuck-up-ed-ness? Do we have a winner of the Most Fucked Up Congress In USA History award? We haven't had members physically attacking each other lately, but still...
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You seemed to know that they were raising taxes on the working class to benefit the rich.
And you also seemed to not give a single shit when (D)'s slammed working class M'aricanz with one of the single largest rat fuck taxes of all time.
Who could have imagined that from one of the largest (D) partisan hacks on the board.
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Do a little research and get back to us explaining why that's not what they're doing.
Otherwise, you're just a parasitic fraud.
Otherwise, you're just a parasitic fraud.
You seemed to know that they were raising taxes on the working class to benefit the rich.
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But . . . but . . . that's all he is--a parasitic fraud.
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Some of them, like Gianforte, are given a wide berth.
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All of the cats, rats, horses, cows, pigs and lambs, are out of the bag. We will have to wait for the chickens to roost, and the ducks to form rows.
No longer any need for the pressure of suppression.
*reads*
Robert Murray, the company’s chief executive officer, said the Senate tax plan would raise his company’s tax bill by $60 million.
“What the Senate did, in their befuddled mess, is drove me out of business and then bragged about the fact that they got some tax reform passed,” Mr. Murray said in an interview Sunday. “This is not job creation. This is not stimulating income. This is driving a whole sector of our community into nonexistence.”
"Marvellous magic, Mitch!"
No longer any need for the pressure of suppression.
*reads*
Robert Murray, the company’s chief executive officer, said the Senate tax plan would raise his company’s tax bill by $60 million.
“What the Senate did, in their befuddled mess, is drove me out of business and then bragged about the fact that they got some tax reform passed,” Mr. Murray said in an interview Sunday. “This is not job creation. This is not stimulating income. This is driving a whole sector of our community into nonexistence.”
"Marvellous magic, Mitch!"
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That's not what they are doing.
Not unfairly gouging those who are doing for those who are not is NOT hiking taxes on the middle class.
Neither is nixing some write off's that might result in some of the middle class paying more.
If you're a middle class, especially as it's meant from the view of liberalism/capitalism (the business owner), then this tax plan is almost certainly a tax cut for you.
Says the guy who advocates parasitic frauds rat fucking the middle/working class as long as it's a (D) doing it.
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#1. Your first point is not sustainable.
If you think cutting taxes for "those who are doing for those who are not" is fine, alright then, but what does that have to do with hiking taxes on the middle class? Why can't they "not gouge" the rich and leave middle class taxes alone?
#2. Your second point at least makes some sense. You choose to characterize tax hikes as "nixing some write-offs" but at least there's a causal connection.
#3. And the vast majority of middle class who are not "business owners" but teachers, postal workers, average Joe's? Are they the ones draining the economy through supposed "write-offs" and not huge corporations not paying because of loopholes which remain unclosed?
#4. You're fine with "Nixing write-offs" for the ne-er-do-wells in the middle class, but at the same time bitch about Ds "rat-fucking" the middle/working class--who, because they oppose this bill, would be the ones NOT fine with "nixing write-offs" for the middle class.
#5. Taxes for POOR people will be going up under the Trump tax plan, such as people making $10,000 a year. And yet its Ds "rat-fucking" the working class.
If you think cutting taxes for "those who are doing for those who are not" is fine, alright then, but what does that have to do with hiking taxes on the middle class? Why can't they "not gouge" the rich and leave middle class taxes alone?
#2. Your second point at least makes some sense. You choose to characterize tax hikes as "nixing some write-offs" but at least there's a causal connection.
#3. And the vast majority of middle class who are not "business owners" but teachers, postal workers, average Joe's? Are they the ones draining the economy through supposed "write-offs" and not huge corporations not paying because of loopholes which remain unclosed?
#4. You're fine with "Nixing write-offs" for the ne-er-do-wells in the middle class, but at the same time bitch about Ds "rat-fucking" the middle/working class--who, because they oppose this bill, would be the ones NOT fine with "nixing write-offs" for the middle class.
#5. Taxes for POOR people will be going up under the Trump tax plan, such as people making $10,000 a year. And yet its Ds "rat-fucking" the working class.
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Robert Murray was featured on Last Week Tonight last summer. His lawsuit is still moving through the courts.All of the cats, rats, horses, cows, pigs and lambs, are out of the bag. We will have to wait for the chickens to roost, and the ducks to form rows.
No longer any need for the pressure of suppression.
*reads*
Robert Murray, the company’s chief executive officer, said the Senate tax plan would raise his company’s tax bill by $60 million.
“What the Senate did, in their befuddled mess, is drove me out of business and then bragged about the fact that they got some tax reform passed,” Mr. Murray said in an interview Sunday. “This is not job creation. This is not stimulating income. This is driving a whole sector of our community into nonexistence.”
"Marvellous magic, Mitch!"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aw6RsUhw1Q8
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Nothing, that's my point.
Lefties consider not fucking the rich the same a fucking the middle/working class.
It's not a characterization, that's what it is.
Some "middle class' folks won't be able to write off certain shit they used to, effectively raising some folks taxes without actually upping taxes on them.
Aren't really middle class...they are working class but that's whatever.
No, and neither are huge corporations, who don't pay any taxes, never have never will, not ever.
No, the (D)'s rat fucking of the middle class as far as taxation is concerned was Obamacare, one of the single largest tax hikes against the working/middle class in a very long time.
And we got shit for it in return!! Absolute shit...total fucking rip off.
No lamentation and apocalyptic predictions from (D)'s and their fan base then.
Hell most are still defending it like it wasn't a total fucking scam, a Romneycare Ripoff from the (R)'s.
Good....time they started paying their fair share.
Yea, (D)'s do it too and you cheer it.
That's my point.
You cheer tax hikes on the working/middle class....as long as (D) is doing it.
Even when (D) is using an (R) plan, the (R) plan from the guy who LOST!!! to do it, you still go to bat for them!
The sheer volume of morons who think one party or the other is on their side as a citizen is not only the direct cause of why things are so fucked up, but total comedy as well.
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*listens to video*
yikes
"Murray Energy Corp., an Ohio-based firm and the largest privately held U.S. coal-mining company, complained that the AMT decision and the Senate’s tougher limits on interest deductions made a “mockery out of so-called tax reform.”
http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-dr...alls-victim-to-republican-vote-payoff-orama/#
Mother Jones got a bit snarky...
http://time.com/4829720/john-oliver-lawsuit-robert-murray-coal/
“I have to proceed with caution,” Oliver said. “I’m not going to say he looks like a geriatric Dr. Evil, even though he clearly does.”
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/6959723.stm
When I was a child, there were a number of tragedies that re-occurred with regularity.
There is no reason for the tragedies, to become worse, now that we have a computerized network.
Other, than greed.
yikes
"Murray Energy Corp., an Ohio-based firm and the largest privately held U.S. coal-mining company, complained that the AMT decision and the Senate’s tougher limits on interest deductions made a “mockery out of so-called tax reform.”
http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-dr...alls-victim-to-republican-vote-payoff-orama/#
Mother Jones got a bit snarky...
http://time.com/4829720/john-oliver-lawsuit-robert-murray-coal/
“I have to proceed with caution,” Oliver said. “I’m not going to say he looks like a geriatric Dr. Evil, even though he clearly does.”
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/6959723.stm
When I was a child, there were a number of tragedies that re-occurred with regularity.
There is no reason for the tragedies, to become worse, now that we have a computerized network.
Other, than greed.
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Typical response. A typical partisan generalization making false attributions and ascriptions with NO specific knowledge of what the Trump tax plan actually does. And doesn't answer my question. Of course to answer it, you'd have to know why we're complaining about this specific tax plan.
Also: GB the other day:
Bitter Boy: "Fuck the poor. They need to step up their game."
Today: The Ds are always rat-fucking the working class.
Also: GB the other day:
Bitter Boy: "Fuck the poor. They need to step up their game."
Today: The Ds are always rat-fucking the working class.
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BotanyBoy
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It's not making false attributions and ascriptions.
It's a regularly regurgitated pile of bullshit from the left.
You don't need any knowledge of the Trump tax plan to regurgitate lefty derp.
Which one?
The only reason you're complaining about this specific tax plan is because (R)'s are evil and you hate Trump.
If it was (D)'s fucking the working/middle class over and being signed off on by the Queen of Wall St. you'd have no problem with it, your unwavering support of (D)'s and Obama doing it blatantly with Obamacare is proof.
You're a hack...a basic partisan.
Also irrelevant.
And they don't even conflict with one another, my opinion on the poor and their status as such has nothing to do with the behavior of (D)'s or (R)'s or any other political party, representative or entity.
The poor do need to step up their game and the (D)'s are always rat fucking the working class.
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No. I do not think I have ever sent you a PM.
I went back through all my "sent" messages to be sure. I do not PM much, so it just took a minute. There is nothing there.
What are you talking about?
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