Open Ended Chapter 2 Ideas Interracial Story (Non Consent)

I am stuck on one of my stories as a chapter 2. Story is told from 1st perspective of a guy.

Opinions please.

Shy black college girl is roommates with a couple. They all attend the same university. The girlfriend of the couple is her best friend. The boyfriend and the girlfriend are always fighting arguing causing drama. He doesn't get sex lately. There's a rift in their relationship and at the house.

Boyfriend enjoys watching black roommate take showers, he takes pictures, and fantasizes all kinds of nasty thoughts about her. Sort of obsessed with her. From there... don't know how to follow through unless I have these two options.

The boyfriend and her bestfriend (who is the girlfriend) makes amends and re-starts their sex life again. To spice it up they want the black roommate to join them. Of course she refuses the idea and feels she needs to move out of the house. However they refuse to let her leave. I'll leave it open ended cause anything could happen there. How about the two find a way to get a chocolate three way initiated without the black roommates consent? (In case you wanted to know what a chocolate three way is it's when you have at least one black person in a threesome with two non black people. Ex: Two black girls one white guy lol or two white guys one black girl)

Second option: The couple has a big argument leaves him sexually frustrated, angry, and bored at the house. He invites an old friend over who consoles him and the black roommate happens to be home... I'll leave at that.

What do you guys think so far?

Interesting, the non-con here is a fun twist but since that's what you've focused on I don't quite know wher eto go.

oh no, don't run into the same problem I am having. It could lead to something else I just don't know what. Well damn then maybe I should just pick an option and run with it. But I don't want a sloppy ending. This story is marinating in my mind lol hehehe if that makes any lick of sense I doubt it

CrissySnow said:

oh no, don't run into the same problem I am having. It could lead to something else I just don't know what. Well damn then maybe I should just pick an option and run with it. But I don't want a sloppy ending. This story is marinating in my mind lol hehehe if that makes any lick of sense I doubt it

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It does, but non-con. . .well what do you mean by non-con?

Non consent is what it means. Being taken without permission but somehow secretly wanting it. That's what the whole plot centered around. Obsession, drama, non consent and lots of sex.

CrissySnow said:

Non consent is what it means. Being taken without permission but somehow secretly wanting it. That's what the whole plot centered around. Obsession, drama, non consent and lots of sex.

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I'm assuming this "taken without permission" is something short of outright rape? Or am I assuming too much?

You are, because the secretly wanting it part is not actually necessary which is why I asked. Non-Con can be flat out rape. Lit has a soft rule about limits. Ultimately it just means that if Laurel reads your story and goes then she might send it back. She admits flat out that a better writer can get away with much more than a poor writer and it's been suggested that the more established writers may also be given a bit more leeway.

Also as long as the physical part isn't too rough you should be okay. A woman who's being raped because she owes the rent and doesn't enjoy it at all is perfectly in bounds.

Non-Consent is polite for rape. Reluctance is what the OP is talking about. This mistake is so fucking common that I suspected it was a goof from the get go and asked for clarity.

I made the same mistake. Who would had have thought that 'non-consent', which means many more things other than 'rape' in the English language, would be a euphemism used by the site to describe rape?

I see what you guys mean. But of course I don't get into the reality of it. People have to draw the line somewhere. So yeah I know the rules.

LWulf said:

I made the same mistake. Who would had have thought that 'non-consent', which means many more things other than 'rape' in the English language, would be a euphemism used by the site to describe rape?

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The category was originally called rape and reluctance but like ten years ago it got changed to something "softer". A lot of people suspected at the time it had something to do with the Bush Presidency which declared open season on pornographers. I don't know (or care) if it was true or not if for no other reason than it really didn't change much. It was a new sticker but the category remains largely untouched.

The rules aren't really what's important here Crissy, what you wanted is. There is a world of difference between a couple (God, parsing my words here is gonna be a bitch) coercing a friend into sex while she keeps saying 'no' and pushing them away but obviously likes having two sets of hands on her, and her trying to get away while they use her for their pleasure. My mind reading powers are kinda sub-par unfortunately.

Sean Renaud said:

The category was originally called rape and reluctance but like ten years ago it got changed to something "softer". A lot of people suspected at the time it had something to do with the Bush Presidency which declared open season on pornographers. I don't know (or care) if it was true or not if for no other reason than it really didn't change much. It was a new sticker but the category remains largely untouched.

The rules aren't really what's important here Crissy, what you wanted is. There is a world of difference between a couple (God, parsing my words here is gonna be a bitch) coercing a friend into sex while she keeps saying 'no' and pushing them away but obviously likes having two sets of hands on her, and her trying to get away while they use her for their pleasure. My mind reading powers are kinda sub-par unfortunately.

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Well of course. I like the idea that the character of interest will be coerced into a 3 some but also I don't want to give the wrong impression when I'm expressing my ideas for writing. It's hard enough dealing with writers block. I did not know lit had a category that was labeled that way although 10 years ago I wasn't old enough to know about lit.

So the idea of coercion is OK then I'm going to assume it is.

Okay, so how much coercion are we talking? I ask because I don't understand quite what your problem is. Is she basically down for it but she's saying no because she doesn't want anybody to think she's slutty?

Sean Renaud said:

The category was originally called rape and reluctance but like ten years ago it got changed to something "softer".

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Actually, that's not true. The "Extreme" external link had a category called Rape. That was where hard core rape stories went. The Non-Consent category was called as such. "Reluctance" was added around 2002ish when Lit disembarked from the sister site.

Sean Renaud said:

Okay, so how much coercion are we talking? I ask because I don't understand quite what your problem is. Is she basically down for it but she's saying no because she doesn't want anybody to think she's slutty?

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likewise, I am lost as to what the motivation of the black roommate is in wanting/not wanting the threesome. Though answering this question might be the answer you're seeking.

Unless this is the very help you are looking for, can you explain this situation better? Doing so might allow others to help you better.

LWulf said:

likewise, I am lost as to what the motivation of the black roommate is in wanting/not wanting the threesome. Though answering this question might be the answer you're seeking.

Unless this is the very help you are looking for, can you explain this situation better? Doing so might allow others to help you better.

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Simple. Just a horny frustrated guy tired of his girlfriend's drama so decides to take his sexual frustrations out on his girlfriend's roommate. Simplistic without hidden meanings. I'm just stuck on the sex scene I can't decide if the idea of having him and his friend taking her or rather him and his girlfriend? I'm stuck. Plus there's backstory but it may be too long and drawn out. Then this should be a oneshot.

DarkPleasures said:

Actually, that's not true. The "Extreme" external link had a category called Rape. That was where hard core rape stories went. The Non-Consent category was called as such. "Reluctance" was added around 2002ish when Lit disembarked from the sister site.

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I stand corrected. Thank you. I do remember (and miss even if it seemed like a dump for poorly written garbage) the Extreme site they used to have. The core of my point however is that the woman doesn't actually need to enjoy it and the rule is really if it bothers Laurel it's a no-go and she explicitly states that the better an author is the more they can get away with so. . .

CrissySnow said:

Simple. Just a horny frustrated guy tired of his girlfriend's drama so decides to take his sexual frustrations out on his girlfriend's roommate. Simplistic without hidden meanings. I'm just stuck on the sex scene I can't decide if the idea of having him and his friend taking her or rather him and his girlfriend? I'm stuck. Plus there's backstory but it may be too long and drawn out. Then this should be a oneshot.

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The threesome is what's killing it then.

See he's horny and frustrated, we all get that and have varying degrees of sympathy. His girlfriend has a hot roommate and since roommates tend to be friends there's that. So the black chick finds the guy attractive but doesn't want to hurt her friend so she keeps her legs crossed. The guy "kinda" forces her. You know it's one of those "please don't leave it's just dinner, it's just wine." Maybe he hides her keys or something. One thing leads to another and sex!

With the girlfriend there consent to fuck her boyfriend is pretty much given so. . .what's the problem?

Him and his friend could work, but then he's just gonna come across as a real piece of shit. I mean what kind of guy gets together with a friend and forces a woman to have sex? Even if she loves it 90% of the time that doesn't change what they set out to do. Yikes.

Sean Renaud said:

I stand corrected. Thank you. I do remember (and miss even if it seemed like a dump for poorly written garbage) the Extreme site they used to have. The core of my point however is that the woman doesn't actually need to enjoy it and the rule is really if it bothers Laurel it's a no-go and she explicitly states that the better an author is the more they can get away with.

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No prob. I miss Extreme, too. The things I read there were garbage; however, I wanted to try my hand at the category. (How much fun would Survivor be if authors were "forced" to write for that category!?)

Isn't that fun? I guess someone has to do their time and become prolific before they can push the envelope.

DarkPleasures said:

No prob. I miss Extreme, too. The things I read there were garbage; however, I wanted to try my hand at the category. (How much fun would Survivor be if authors were "forced" to write for that category!?)

Isn't that fun? I guess someone has to do their time and become prolific before they can push the envelope.

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The things there were garbage by and large. And survivor would be fun, but I think just like I end up tweaking a few categories to do what I want I'm sure people would do the same over there. It would still be funny to watch.

Not so much prolific as GOOD. Stephen King could probably get away with a girl being disolved from the inside by an acid monster during sex, Micheal Bay would get dumped on for having a turtle look at April O'Neil.

I see what you're saying, but your analogy makes me laugh slightly. I feel Stephen King used to be good but is now prolific. Sure, his books sell. That's part of my point. He's selling his name now.

DarkPleasures said:

I see what you're saying, but your analogy makes me laugh slightly. I feel Stephen King used to be good but is now prolific. Sure, his books sell. That's part of my point. He's selling his name now.

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Touche.

Back to the original subject, Crissy I'm not trying to discourage you. I think you've got . . .something. I'd love to tell you I think it's great but i can't read your mind and something needs to help bridge the gap for me here between why this threesome happens.

Maybe the threesome is not needed maybe he should be selfish and secretive the both of them. I do have a backstory for the roommate and her bestfriend but it's not important until more developes. Right now the male roommate is watching her alot he just hasn't been caught yet.

Well dropping the threesome. . .when did the man become a roommate?

He's not the roommate it's his house and his girlfriend lives with him. His girlfriend's best friend moves in, and at a bad time.

Well right there you have your reluctance at least for a 1 on 1. I'm still having a hard time with the three some. That seems like the wort of thing that only works if the couple is on good terms with each other.

Boyfriend and Girlfriend and Friend are too damn long so now they are Peter, Mary and Gwen (the black one)

Peter and Mary are going through a rough time they argue. Mary storms out maybe to spend the night at her mother's house, maybe just to get some air. Regardless she's gonna be gone.

Gwen comes home from the gym still in her spandex and sports bra. He sees her, he's horny. He tells her he wants to fuck her. She says no. He tells her that it's his house. She can put out or she can get out. Faced with that she reluctantly allows him to use her. Eventually she gets into it, or she doesn't. It doesn't really matter but there is your hook.

You could use the same basic set up for the threesome but I'm just not buying that the girlfriend joins in on basically raping what I imagine is a very close friend. Maybe after the initial set up Peter tells Gwen she's going to help him set up a threeway with Mary, she's still got the threat hanging over her head and with the two of them both pouring her drinks, both brushing up against her, both making little hints. Wham, Bam, Thank you Ma'am.

Oh man thanks a bunch *hugs*. I love that last part it makes much more sense and is very sexy. I could hug you forever. Sweet. Gwen as you call her lol usually comes in from work all dirty but I like the idea she comes home in skin tight gym clothes. Since he usually watches her shower day in and day out I'm sure her being all dirty from the gym sets up the chance of him taking what he wants.