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desertslave said:
Orgasms from pain-play are the brightest in the universe for me.
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innerMILFsub said:
This. Seriously, the most intense orgasms I've ever had.
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Well, I'm not sure I have all that much to add to this train of conversation as I certainly don't consider myself a pain slut. In fact, pain scares the bejesus out of me! :eek:

But...I will say, the only time I've ever managed a multiple orgasm was after an intense little bit of pain that I wasn't particularly excited about engaging in. Whether it was the pain or the submission I couldn't really say, but it was certainly an intense experience.
 
I think I found an analogy that suits my purpose.

I enjoy violence. I enjoy physical combat. Most people do not. It frightens most folks. Its not identical to, say, spanking or whipping, but we definitely take our lumps at times. Football falls into it, too.
 
Endless_Night said:
Well, I'm not sure I have all that much to add to this train of conversation as I certainly don't consider myself a pain slut. In fact, pain scares the bejesus out of me! :eek:

But...I will say, the only time I've ever managed a multiple orgasm was after an intense little bit of pain that I wasn't particularly excited about engaging in. Whether it was the pain or the submission I couldn't really say, but it was certainly an intense experience.
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I learned to swim when my old man threw me into the water. Learned it instantly.
 
I spent several hours researching female orgasm and arousal. I took notes.

From what I read guys seem to have less powerful orgasms than females. It looks like we share the same process of arousal but don't share intensity or the same focal points. I cant imagine any male losing sensibility or mental/physical control, tho both features seem to be common with females. And unless the gals are lying I cant imagine how any female can fake orgasm....not if she's truly limp and dissociated and foggy etc. Limp noodle is in my notes.

Just between us, I trust nothing any female reports about her sexual experiences.
 
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I answered my question by watching some old vids of Milton H. Erickson MD hypnotizing patients. So, pain sluts are in trance when they respond to whatevers going on. There's no formula, per se, that others can utilize, the female is responding singularly to her partner.
 
I would definitely be willing to consider the endorphin rush from thoughtfully applied pain to be similar to hypnotic trance.

Curiously, I'm apparently somewhat hypnosis-resistant. Go figure?
 
desertslave said:
I would definitely be willing to consider the endorphin rush from thoughtfully applied pain to be similar to hypnotic trance.

Curiously, I'm apparently somewhat hypnosis-resistant. Go figure?
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Hypnosis is an offer you cant refuse.
 
JAMESBJOHNSON said:
I answered my question by watching some old vids of Milton H. Erickson MD hypnotizing patients. So, pain sluts are in trance when they respond to whatevers going on. There's no formula, per se, that others can utilize, the female is responding singularly to her partner.
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Some people are relational about pain and do it for Daddy or whatever, and some people are in love with pain gratia pain, in which case the person dealing it out is completely unimportant. I think they experience the sensation differently than the majority of people, probably also looking for fire ant hills, with a touch more exhibitionist wiring. I've worked on people like this, and I've always been done before they are. People who would die smiling if you beat the life out of them, so you need to be done before they are. Contusions and bleeding are a blissful high, not a test to be passed with grit and determination. Most people are taking another for me, need the emotional link, the buy-in, more than just more pain. A pain slut isn't listening and doesn't care, as long as Madame Pain is in da house.

(I'd say only the latter is actually a painslut, the former is just a masochist in a relationship or a submissive submitting to painful stimulus as an act of submission or something else.) The formula is the same and almost anyone can use it - the painslut is the equivalent of the highly suggestible ideal stage hypno subject who drops like a rock, clucks like a chicken, and ready to buy in. Or they're masterful self-hypnotizers. It's also not about you, when you're working one of these people over. It's a cool and slightly unsettling experience, but if you're kinked to reactivity in your partner (I am) it's not something you really go out looking for.

It's the submissive who's the more typical subject, with some defenses up, whose sensations you have to appeal to, whose story you have to know, whose language you have to speak, to make any inroads.
 
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Netzach said:
Some people are relational about pain and do it for Daddy or whatever, and some people are in love with pain gratia pain, in which case the person dealing it out is completely unimportant. I think they experience the sensation differently than the majority of people, probably also looking for fire ant hills, with a touch more exhibitionist wiring. I've worked on people like this, and I've always been done before they are. People who would die smiling if you beat the life out of them, so you need to be done before they are. Contusions and bleeding are a blissful high, not a test to be passed with grit and determination. Most people are taking another for me, need the emotional link, the buy-in, more than just more pain. A pain slut isn't listening and doesn't care, as long as Madame Pain is in da house.

(I'd say only the latter is actually a painslut, the former is just a masochist in a relationship or a submissive submitting to painful stimulus as an act of submission or something else.) The formula is the same and almost anyone can use it - the painslut is the equivalent of the highly suggestible ideal stage hypno subject who drops like a rock, clucks like a chicken, and ready to buy in. Or they're masterful self-hypnotizers. It's also not about you, when you're working one of these people over. It's a cool and slightly unsettling experience, but if you're kinked to reactivity in your partner (I am) it's not something you really go out looking for.

It's the submissive who's the more typical subject, with some defenses up, whose sensations you have to appeal to, whose story you have to know, whose language you have to speak, to make any inroads.
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Milton Erickson MD said pretty much what you say about people responses. I found the ancient vid after I posted my question to the board. And even Napoleon spoke of it...MOSCOW WASNT MY IDEA, I WANTED TO GO TO LONDON, MY ARMY WANTED TO GO TO MOSCOW! Erickson talked of patients going their way, and it was his job to suggest better plots to get there. Hypnosis is manipulation with integrity, I s'pose.
 
JAMESBJOHNSON said:
Milton Erickson MD said pretty much what you say about people responses. I found the ancient vid after I posted my question to the board. And even Napoleon spoke of it...MOSCOW WASNT MY IDEA, I WANTED TO GO TO LONDON, MY ARMY WANTED TO GO TO MOSCOW! Erickson talked of patients going their way, and it was his job to suggest better plots to get there. Hypnosis is manipulation with integrity, I s'pose.
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Now that is a delightful turn of phrase! LOL
 
JAMESBJOHNSON said:
Milton Erickson MD said pretty much what you say about people responses. I found the ancient vid after I posted my question to the board. And even Napoleon spoke of it...MOSCOW WASNT MY IDEA, I WANTED TO GO TO LONDON, MY ARMY WANTED TO GO TO MOSCOW! Erickson talked of patients going their way, and it was his job to suggest better plots to get there. Hypnosis is manipulation with integrity, I s'pose.
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Integrity and tools. If you only know how to count from 10-0 you're going to have very few success stories, and most people only know how to count from 10-0 and walk away thinking "this doesn't work!"

Actually, that's true for painplay AND hypno, huh.
 
Netzach said:
Integrity and tools. If you only know how to count from 10-0 you're going to have very few success stories, and most people only know how to count from 10-0 and walk away thinking "this doesn't work!"

Actually, that's true for painplay AND hypno, huh.
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Its all performance art as 'you' present stimulants 'they' naturally respond to, once you discover 'their' response set. You know a lot! Me? I know how to take a girl away from a dom, use a leather belt on a soft ass, and something else.
 
I think I'm gonna remove the pain slut chapters from my book to make into a pain slut novella but without the choreographed Captain Capon (with powder blue cape) & Vanna White (in leather and rhinestones) crap so many 'doms' and 'subs' love.
 
JAMESBJOHNSON said:
I think I'm gonna remove the pain slut chapters from my book to make into a pain slut novella but without the choreographed Captain Capon (with powder blue cape) & Vanna White (in leather and rhinestones) crap so many 'doms' and 'subs' love.
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You mean....you would go for realism instead? :eek:
 
Netzach said:
Some people are relational about pain and do it for Daddy or whatever, and some people are in love with pain gratia pain, in which case the person dealing it out is completely unimportant. I think they experience the sensation differently than the majority of people, probably also looking for fire ant hills, with a touch more exhibitionist wiring. I've worked on people like this, and I've always been done before they are. People who would die smiling if you beat the life out of them, so you need to be done before they are. Contusions and bleeding are a blissful high, not a test to be passed with grit and determination. Most people are taking another for me, need the emotional link, the buy-in, more than just more pain. A pain slut isn't listening and doesn't care, as long as Madame Pain is in da house.

(I'd say only the latter is actually a painslut, the former is just a masochist in a relationship or a submissive submitting to painful stimulus as an act of submission or something else.) The formula is the same and almost anyone can use it - the painslut is the equivalent of the highly suggestible ideal stage hypno subject who drops like a rock, clucks like a chicken, and ready to buy in. Or they're masterful self-hypnotizers. It's also not about you, when you're working one of these people over. It's a cool and slightly unsettling experience, but if you're kinked to reactivity in your partner (I am) it's not something you really go out looking for.

It's the submissive who's the more typical subject, with some defenses up, whose sensations you have to appeal to, whose story you have to know, whose language you have to speak, to make any inroads.
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This is how I'd describe myself. It's the submitting, the giving, the letting... For me it is about him and pleasing him, not my desiring pain for the sake of pain. This is probably not a helpful response for the OP, though.
 
BabblingBrooke said:
This is how I'd describe myself. It's the submitting, the giving, the letting... For me it is about him and pleasing him, not my desiring pain for the sake of pain. This is probably not a helpful response for the OP, though.
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All honest reports are welcome, I want to learn the lay of the land NOT set standards. I aim to write porn real people read and think, BOY HE KNOWS ME!

The late Margaret Mead went to the Pacific and the teens out there filled her ass with rainbow smoke.
 
Anyway, my story (called PURPLE HAZE) involves a perfesser involved with two young men who screw her and color her ass purple when she needs it. Both are rich, but one is a pussy mam's boy, and the other is a self made man who made his money himself, and fucks the perfessers daughter btw. None are nice people. But the perfesser gets the daughters lust, and her own stuff. So its okay. But she wants one man or the other, and that's her struggle.
 
desertslave said:
I crave the sensory input-ness of pain, I crave being able to get on top of it and letting it take me under. I need the way it cleanses me when stress overwhelms me. Orgasms from pain-play are the brightest in the universe for me.

And, for me, the personal connection with the person giving me the pain is essential. I've tried playing in clubs, just to get off for a temporary fix. It's happened, occasionally, but it's a pale substitute. That was a harsh lesson to learn, at the time.
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This is how I see it too. It's the pleasure/pain game as always. When the dynamics are right though, the orgasms are far more intense than they are without the pain element involved.
 
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