The Official Authors' Hangout Winter Holidays 2017 Support Thread

"Pixie by the Fireside" went live this morning. As usual, the first score I saw in the morning will probably be the lowest score it ever has.

But no-one has commented "too much damned sex." In fact, no reader has commented at all.
 
Another Winter Holidays story is coming together but I need to reconsider the flashback sections. The current order doesn't work. I have to get the heroine's back story established before the ending, not after it.
 
I think I'll stop writing stories "for the fun of it"and putting them into contests.
 
One more sleep until I edit. Although, if it's quiet enough and I'm awake enough tonight, I might go through the text-to-speech read tonight.

Finished the cover image, so that's the last little peripheral thing done. I've had a mock-up of it since last year, when the main image was attached to a completely different story.
 
I think I'll stop writing stories "for the fun of it"and putting them into contests.

I'm not clear what you mean.

Do you mean 'I think I'll stop writing stories for the fun of it' period 'I'll put them into contests'?

OR

I need to write stories specifically for contests?

OR

I should stop writing stories - period?

OR

My stories written for the fun of it aren't suitable for contests?

I am now reluctant to write stories that are not for contests because they get posted, have a few hours' attention (and 1-bombs) and sink almost without trace.

My contest stories, good or bad, get attention and that spills over to some of my other stories as well. During this contest so far I have had comments and favorites on many of my other stories. I deleted one anonymous attack on a 15-year-old story this morning. It was an attack on the author, not the story - so it's gone.
 
Rewrite wrapped up, tweaking and fixing.
And beating my head against the wall for a title...
 
I'm not clear what you mean.

Do you mean 'I think I'll stop writing stories for the fun of it' period 'I'll put them into contests'?

OR

I need to write stories specifically for contests?

OR

I should stop writing stories - period?

OR

My stories written for the fun of it aren't suitable for contests?

I am now reluctant to write stories that are not for contests because they get posted, have a few hours' attention (and 1-bombs) and sink almost without trace.

My contest stories, good or bad, get attention and that spills over to some of my other stories as well. During this contest so far I have had comments and favorites on many of my other stories. I deleted one anonymous attack on a 15-year-old story this morning. It was an attack on the author, not the story - so it's gone.

My last two contest entries are short little stories that I wrote for the fun of it.

The first one came on the heels of "A Valentine's Day Mess Pt 3" which took me three months of hard work to write. I needed to do some recreational writing. It was a median story in the contest, but also my first entry in "Mature," so I thought I may have simply misjudged the category.

The current one (also in "Mature") came about because of frustration over a more difficult story I'm working on. I needed to get my head straight, so I wrote a quick stroker then followed that with a holiday story using the same female MC and same concept.

We know it ain't over 'till it's over, but I'm disappointed in the reception. It's currently my third lowest-scoring story ever. The two lower stories were written in the first few months I came here, and one of those was just an exercise.

If I want the satisfaction of performing well in the contests then I need to enter stories that take a little more work and are more developed. I'm not happy with medians or worse.
 
My last two contest entries are short little stories that I wrote for the fun of it.

The first one came on the heels of "A Valentine's Day Mess Pt 3" which took me three months of hard work to write. I needed to do some recreational writing. It was a median story in the contest, but also my first entry in "Mature," so I thought I may have simply misjudged the category.

The current one (also in "Mature") came about because of frustration over a more difficult story I'm working on. I needed to get my head straight, so I wrote a quick stroker then followed that with a holiday story using the same female MC and same concept.

We know it ain't over 'till it's over, but I'm disappointed in the reception. It's currently my third lowest-scoring story ever. The two lower stories were written in the first few months I came here, and one of those was just an exercise...

If I want the satisfaction of performing well in the contests then I need to enter stories that take a little more work and are more developed. I'm not happy with medians or worse.

Well, the stories that I wrote and, timing wise, waited until this contest to release got bombed and I think both are some of my best work. These story's scores have been disappointing and I believe that it is subject to the bombing they received from the high profile of these contests. Yes, these stories received more attention, vote scores, favorites, and I have more followers; but I think if I hadn't placed them in these contests that they would have higher scores.

I think that over time with a series of sweeps and removed from the connection to these contests that these stories will rise to being "Hot" stories. I think they are 4.6+ score quality stories.

... and I can relate to oggbashan on the comment situation. I had a couple of comments where Anonymous commenters didn't like the stories, and they said so, because of the background story and it took too long to get to the sex and so they stopped reading the story -- and they said 1-star. I erased the comments, because that kind of comment is irrelevant and ridiculous. I'm here to write something with some meaning, not a sex scene vignette piece.

(edit to add)... apparently another sweep last night takes my story "Bodacious - a New Year's Story" up .02 points, which is up .07 points since Saturday. My other story "Happy New Year to Me" got a .04 point boost through this sweep.

See, I'm not as crazy as I think I am! ;)
 
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(edit to add)... apparently another sweep last night takes my story "Bodacious - a New Year's Story" up .02 points, which is up .07 points since Saturday. My other story "Happy New Year to Me" got a .04 point boost through this sweep.

See, I'm not as crazy as I think I am! ;)

I'm not sure, but that sweep might still be going on. It pulled six votes from my contest entry and bumped the score up by 0.11. The sweep also took in some of my earlier stories that were trolled and bumped them by 0.10, 0.08 and 0.05.

I wish I could tell where the trolls are coming from. They could pick the story up from the contest page, the New list or the story hub. If they come from the story hub then I sure wouldn't post there again, but I can't tell.
 
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I wish I could tell where the trolls are coming from. They could pick the story up from the contest page, the New list or the story hub. If they come from the story hub then I sure wouldn't post there again, but I can't tell.

I think some of the trolls read these contest support threads. There seems to be a pattern. If one of us mentions here that our rating has improved - within hours that story gets hit again.
 
The readership in Mature is friendly. There are very few trolls there. There is a large and welcoming readership for sex-heavy stories there. I have a little experience with that, if you look at my list. LOL

They undoubtedly prefer deeper stories, though. Look at the toplist for the category. My own Nude Holly Day scores higher than most of my other stuff, despite it having an older man and a younger woman, which isn't the preferred coupling, and that's because the story and buildup is more involved.

( I nearly transferred that story to Les Lumens because it was too highbrow for this name. :D )

You'll get good readership in Mature if you hit the age difference kink, no matter what. If you want a high score, you're going to have to give them a strong, slower building story that trends toward romance, and preferably with the woman as the older protagonist.

The category wasn't historically a winner, but that changed about three or four years ago when it started showing up in the money and high in the standings on a regular basis.

Now, to move on to the next step of my edit. I've been writing so much short form that I'd forgotten how long it takes to edit something this frikkin' long. :p

I'm not sure, but that sweep might still be going on. It pulled six votes from my contest entry and bumped the score up by 0.11. The sweep also took in some of my earlier stories that were trolled and bumped them by 0.10, 0.08 and 0.05.

I wish I could tell where the trolls are coming from. They could pick the story up from the contest page, the New list or the story hub. If they come from the story hub then I sure wouldn't post there again, but I can't tell.
 
You'll get good readership in Mature if you hit the age difference kink, no matter what. If you want a high score, you're going to have to give them a strong, slower building story that trends toward romance, and preferably with the woman as the older protagonist.

The category wasn't historically a winner, but that changed about three or four years ago when it started showing up in the money and high in the standings on a regular basis.

Now, to move on to the next step of my edit. I've been writing so much short form that I'd forgotten how long it takes to edit something this frikkin' long. :p

I haven't looked at the top list. After the summer contest I started reading some of the high-rated current stories in the category to find out what I may have done wrong. I thought the high-rated current stories were very porny. Mature is a small category and it's possible that the ratings of stories there are heavily influenced by reads from the "New" list.

At any rate, despite the low rating, Pixie has produced one of the biggest bumps in my views I've ever had. Not even counting the views on Pixie herself, views went from ~8/story/day to 50+. I've been tracking views for a couple years and the only larger bumps came from the 2016 V'Day contest entry (Valentines Day Mess) and from "His Father's Lover: The Gift," which is a fairly low-rated, non-contest story.

I've already decided that I will submit the first Pixie story (the contest entry is actually the second story) once the contest is over and I'll probably write a third. Neither of those will go to a contest.
 
My Mature stories tend to be about two older people finding love together, not about age differences - but I have done at least one.

Most of stories in the Mature category have been accepted reasonably.
 
My Mature stories tend to be about two older people finding love together, not about age differences - but I have done at least one.

Most of stories in the Mature category have been accepted reasonably.

I use the Mature category for older people rather than age difference, as well.
 
Does the Mature catagory have the highest concentration of male readers.
 
Does the Mature catagory have the highest concentration of male readers.

I think the answer to that is:

No one knows.

My versions of Mature are usually not old men with young women, but older people together.
 
I'm only nervous if my Dad ever reads them and works out who wrote them. Gulp!

Dads know everything Chloe, don't ever think otherwise. You're sprung, girl. Ten Hail Mary's and confession on Sunday.

Wait, that won't work - that's what got you into trouble in the first place ;)
 
Caught my editor on a good day. He had a nice chunk of time available, and got it right back to me. Little to argue with in his suggestions, so I just saved it as the final.

All that's left to do now is format it and get it in the queue. I'll probably do that when I get home from work tomorrow, expecting it to be out sometime Friday morning.
 
I'm officially in the queue with the longest story to date in this pen name. Figured I broke pattern with the shortest not too long ago, so may as well continue the trend rather than assigning this to Les as was custom when something broke 10k words.
 
Story submitted.
Now to see how long it takes to post.

Probably Monday, if it didn't already go live.

When mine was still sitting in the queue this morning at 9:00, I pulled it out into the draft folder. Thought that getting it in on Thursday would be under the wire, but guess not LOL. Even though Laurel hasn't been posting on weekends, I wasn't risking it going live on Sunday.

I'll drop it back in the queue on Monday.
 
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