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"Make the lie big, make it simple, keep saying it, and eventually they will believe it."
July 15, 2018
This lie of Trump's choosing surfaces, repeatedly
July 15, 2018
What Trump and Doocy said was untrue. There is no law, passed by Democrats or anyone else, that requires immigration officers to separate families that arrive at U.S. borders seeking asylum or attempting to enter the country illegally.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...ty-show/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.0861467f922d
Fact-checking Donald Trump's interviews with Fox and Friends, reporters on the White House lawn
By Jon Greenberg, Louis Jacobson, Bill McCarthy, Amy Sherman
on Friday, June 15th, 2018
What Trump has said, what Trump said today-
"I hate the children being taken away. The Democrats have to change their law. That's their law. … That's the Democrats’ law. We can change it tonight. … The Democrats forced that law upon our nation."
The truth-
The Trump administration’s “zero tolerance” policy is responsible for spurring family separations. No law mandates it.
https://www.boston.com/news/politic...trump-assails-dems-for-his-own-migrant-policy
Trump said-
"I hate the children being taken away. The Democrats have to change their law. That’s their law.”
“That’s the Democrats’ law. We can change it tonight. We can change it right now.”
“That’s a Democrat bill. That’s Democrats wanting to do that and they could solve it very easily by getting together.”
“That’s the law and that’s what the Democrats gave us and we’re willing to change it today if they want to get in and negotiate but they just don’t want to negotiate.”
https://www.boston.com/news/politic...trump-assails-dems-for-his-own-migrant-policy
Trump’s repeated, but nonspecific references to a Democratic law appear to involve one enacted in 2008. It passed unanimously in Congress and was signed by Republican President George W. Bush. It was focused on freeing and otherwise helping children who come to the border without a parent or guardian. It does not call for family separation.
Why not just fix the problem with new legislation? Trump stated, inaccurately, that “the Democrats have control.” Republicans control both houses of Congress. He meant that his party does not have a large enough majority to prevail without Democratic support.
https://www.boston.com/news/politic...trump-assails-dems-for-his-own-migrant-policy
There is no such law — it is a policy. And the Democrats don’t own that policy.
Whenever parents are charged with a federal misdemeanor (entry without inspection in this case), or awaiting trial, they are placed in the custody of the U.S. Marshals Service. Children cannot go to jail, so they are transferred to the custody of Health and Human Services’ Office of Refugee Resettlement. They are then placed with relatives, juvenile detention centers or foster care. That’s a longstanding Homeland Security policy.
The Trump administration has introduced a "zero-tolerance" policy calling for the prosecution of all individuals who illegally enter the United States. Families were rarely prosecuted under previous administrations.
We found no law mandating that children be separated from their parents.
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...hecking-donald-trumps-unusual-white-house-la/
A day after Jeff Sessions defended the Trump administration’s policy of separating migrant children from their parents by citing a verse from the New Testament, the attorney general spoke about immigration and the Department of Justice’s commitment to “restoring the rule of law in our immigration system” in Scranton, Pennsylvania.
In his impromptu press conference on early Friday, following a friendly chat with Fox News, Trump blamed the administration’s family separation policy on Democrats. “I hate the children being taken away,” Trump said. “The Democrats have to change the law, that’s their law,” he added.
When pressed by a reporter, he insisted that Congress didn’t have the votes to change the policy. “We need ten votes. We can’t get it through because of the Democrats,” he insisted, adding that the policy couldn’t be changed through executive policy, though this is precisely how it came to be policy in the first place.
"The Democrats forced that law upon our nation. (said Trump)"
https://theslot.jezebel.com/jeff-sessions-warns-law-enforcement-about-children-and-1826865227
The Trump administration’s solution, now codified in policy, is to stop treating them as families: to detain the parents as adults and place the children in the custody of Health and Human Services as “unaccompanied minors.”
The (Trump) administration isn’t treating family separation as a punishment for illegal entry, just as a collateral consequence of it. But it’s a consequence of which they’re fully aware. They’re endorsing family separation as a policy, for anyone who makes the choice to forgo the wait (and the chance of rejection) at a port of entry and decides to cross the border between ports of entry instead.
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-poli...ns-illegal-immigration-border-asylum-families
July 15, 2018
This lie of Trump's choosing surfaces, repeatedly
July 15, 2018
What Trump and Doocy said was untrue. There is no law, passed by Democrats or anyone else, that requires immigration officers to separate families that arrive at U.S. borders seeking asylum or attempting to enter the country illegally.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...ty-show/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.0861467f922d
Fact-checking Donald Trump's interviews with Fox and Friends, reporters on the White House lawn
By Jon Greenberg, Louis Jacobson, Bill McCarthy, Amy Sherman
on Friday, June 15th, 2018
What Trump has said, what Trump said today-
"I hate the children being taken away. The Democrats have to change their law. That's their law. … That's the Democrats’ law. We can change it tonight. … The Democrats forced that law upon our nation."
The truth-
The Trump administration’s “zero tolerance” policy is responsible for spurring family separations. No law mandates it.
https://www.boston.com/news/politic...trump-assails-dems-for-his-own-migrant-policy
Trump said-
"I hate the children being taken away. The Democrats have to change their law. That’s their law.”
“That’s the Democrats’ law. We can change it tonight. We can change it right now.”
“That’s a Democrat bill. That’s Democrats wanting to do that and they could solve it very easily by getting together.”
“That’s the law and that’s what the Democrats gave us and we’re willing to change it today if they want to get in and negotiate but they just don’t want to negotiate.”
https://www.boston.com/news/politic...trump-assails-dems-for-his-own-migrant-policy
Trump’s repeated, but nonspecific references to a Democratic law appear to involve one enacted in 2008. It passed unanimously in Congress and was signed by Republican President George W. Bush. It was focused on freeing and otherwise helping children who come to the border without a parent or guardian. It does not call for family separation.
Why not just fix the problem with new legislation? Trump stated, inaccurately, that “the Democrats have control.” Republicans control both houses of Congress. He meant that his party does not have a large enough majority to prevail without Democratic support.
https://www.boston.com/news/politic...trump-assails-dems-for-his-own-migrant-policy
There is no such law — it is a policy. And the Democrats don’t own that policy.
Whenever parents are charged with a federal misdemeanor (entry without inspection in this case), or awaiting trial, they are placed in the custody of the U.S. Marshals Service. Children cannot go to jail, so they are transferred to the custody of Health and Human Services’ Office of Refugee Resettlement. They are then placed with relatives, juvenile detention centers or foster care. That’s a longstanding Homeland Security policy.
The Trump administration has introduced a "zero-tolerance" policy calling for the prosecution of all individuals who illegally enter the United States. Families were rarely prosecuted under previous administrations.
We found no law mandating that children be separated from their parents.
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...hecking-donald-trumps-unusual-white-house-la/
A day after Jeff Sessions defended the Trump administration’s policy of separating migrant children from their parents by citing a verse from the New Testament, the attorney general spoke about immigration and the Department of Justice’s commitment to “restoring the rule of law in our immigration system” in Scranton, Pennsylvania.
In his impromptu press conference on early Friday, following a friendly chat with Fox News, Trump blamed the administration’s family separation policy on Democrats. “I hate the children being taken away,” Trump said. “The Democrats have to change the law, that’s their law,” he added.
When pressed by a reporter, he insisted that Congress didn’t have the votes to change the policy. “We need ten votes. We can’t get it through because of the Democrats,” he insisted, adding that the policy couldn’t be changed through executive policy, though this is precisely how it came to be policy in the first place.
"The Democrats forced that law upon our nation. (said Trump)"
https://theslot.jezebel.com/jeff-sessions-warns-law-enforcement-about-children-and-1826865227
The Trump administration’s solution, now codified in policy, is to stop treating them as families: to detain the parents as adults and place the children in the custody of Health and Human Services as “unaccompanied minors.”
The (Trump) administration isn’t treating family separation as a punishment for illegal entry, just as a collateral consequence of it. But it’s a consequence of which they’re fully aware. They’re endorsing family separation as a policy, for anyone who makes the choice to forgo the wait (and the chance of rejection) at a port of entry and decides to cross the border between ports of entry instead.
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-poli...ns-illegal-immigration-border-asylum-families