The beauty of submissive men

That anecdote reminded me of the time I took my then girlfriend to the Everything-To-Do-With-Sex Show. Which is a fucking misnomer because all they're doing is selling silicone gadgets and advertizing memberships for their fucked-up clubs. But I digress, what I saw was a man and a woman, her sitting on a plastic chair holding a leash, connected to a collar around his neck. He was sitting cross-legged sort of beside her. She was this gross, corpulent sweaty fat mess, a Jabba the Hut wearing Rennaissance fair kit, while he was an old man maybe over 60 with a shaved head and leather clothing. That in a nutshell is how I perceive BDSM. The dregs of humanity, sitting there, being ugly in one of the few venues where they can display their deffective sexual urges in public.

So only young, skinny people are allowed to be kinky? NOW I understand why you're such a pathetic troll!
 
That anecdote reminded me of the time I took my then girlfriend to the Everything-To-Do-With-Sex Show. Which is a fucking misnomer because all they're doing is selling silicone gadgets and advertizing memberships for their fucked-up clubs. But I digress, what I saw was a man and a woman, her sitting on a plastic chair holding a leash, connected to a collar around his neck. He was sitting cross-legged sort of beside her. She was this gross, corpulent sweaty fat mess, a Jabba the Hut wearing Rennaissance fair kit, while he was an old man maybe over 60 with a shaved head and leather clothing. That in a nutshell is how I perceive BDSM. The dregs of humanity, sitting there, being ugly in one of the few venues where they can display their deffective sexual urges in public.

This is ugly and stupid that goes all the way to the bone.
 
He intended it to cut to the bone.. but the weapons trolls attempt to use portray who they are. In this case; innane, shallow, probably not up to his own standards. Cowardly.

Never quote trolls, for the rest of our sakes. It drips their poison past the ignore filter.

Indeed.
Thank you for that.

I shouldn't have even responded to him in the first place myself. Let's just leave him to stew in his own pathetic juices, put him on ignore and edit out any quotes.

And let's just post more of what this thread is about.
 
Why does this have to be zero sum?

Both archetypes are important to me. I actually DO get off on some of the porny and problematic interactions with some people.

AND I actually do relational erotic BDSM with other people. I can be nurturing as fuck. But I will NOT have that demanded of me as part of being "correct" by anybody.

I'm sick of being told what I should and should not like. Dominant woman thing, I guess.

I will say that the "no REAL woman could possibly get off on treating men like this" that I've seen a lot of is VERY heterocentric. Women who do not relate to men heterosexually can certainly objectify them, exert sadistic power over them, and derive pleasure from it, and if that is consensually arranged, then what the hell is the problem?

Eroticism is a lot of things. Romance and orgasm is just one facet. You don't even have to have appropriate orientations or attractions that "fit" traditionally to have it.

So I'll take a pass on being saved from femdom porn, as much as I've taken a pass on having to conform to its dumbest standards.

And if I want to look at men being hot submissive and sexy, I look at gay smut. I never relate to the female presence at all in these things, whether it's conventionally hot or not when I'm in androphile mode on state. I want to be the consumer and consume him, not find an avatar that looks like me.

I'm sorry... And I can see where that would piss you off.

I didn't intend to say that it had to be only that way either, and I'm sorry it came across that way.

But I guess in my rush to embrace the other side, I was throwing out everything else .... And if what is left ends up also being a box of constraining "shoulds" then it is crap too.
 
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He intended it to cut to the bone.. but the weapons trolls attempt to use portray who they are. In this case; innane, shallow, probably not up to his own standards. Cowardly.

Never quote trolls, for the rest of our sakes. It drips their poison past the ignore filter.

Think what you like, but I've never used the term "m'lady".
 
A large part of my sexuality is. hugely stimulated by being the pleaser. I want to cherish the one I love. And serve that person with all of me. But as was well stated I want to be appreciated in turrn not humiliated.
You are appreciated. Immensely.
 
That anecdote reminded me of the time I took my then girlfriend to the Everything-To-Do-With-Sex Show. Which is a fucking misnomer because all they're doing is selling silicone gadgets and advertizing memberships for their fucked-up clubs. But I digress, what I saw was a man and a woman, her sitting on a plastic chair holding a leash, connected to a collar around his neck. He was sitting cross-legged sort of beside her. She was this gross, corpulent sweaty fat mess, a Jabba the Hut wearing Rennaissance fair kit, while he was an old man maybe over 60 with a shaved head and leather clothing. That in a nutshell is how I perceive BDSM. The dregs of humanity, sitting there, being ugly in one of the few venues where they can display their deffective sexual urges in public.

I don't understand.

So the obese or aged aren't allowed to have any sexual expression?

Defective sexual urges? such as what...

What constitutes as proper sexual urges?

If the above is how you perceive BDSM why are you even commenting here in the BDSM Talk Forum?
 
I should probably introduce myself.

I don't practice BDSM, but I respect those that do.

I am curious over Femdom and male submission and this thread has been very informative, and the pics and links have been arousing. So I thank those that have contributed them.
 
I should probably introduce myself.

I don't practice BDSM, but I respect those that do.

I am curious over Femdom and male submission and this thread has been very informative, and the pics and links have been arousing. So I thank those that have contributed them.

Thank you:)
You've been posting beautiful pics in the Femdom thread... So please feel free to post some of those over here:kiss:
 
Thank you:)
You've been posting beautiful pics in the Femdom thread... So please feel free to post some of those over here:kiss:

Why thank you.

I'll look to do that in the future.

First though can I ask a question? What was the first foray into Femdom or Submission for any of the real domes or Subs out there? I guess what I'm interested in is not the first time they exerted dominance in some power dynamic with a submissive or submitted to a mistress in some power dynamic, but what was the moment when you found you were different from the vanilla types around you? What was that like?
 
Why thank you.

I'll look to do that in the future.

First though can I ask a question? What was the first foray into Femdom or Submission for any of the real domes or Subs out there? I guess what I'm interested in is not the first time they exerted dominance in some power dynamic with a submissive or submitted to a mistress in some power dynamic, but what was the moment when you found you were different from the vanilla types around you? What was that like?

I knew I had the tendancies to be the way I am at an early age. My dreams as a young person were rife with these types of scenarios. I never really felt comfortable with taking advantage of someone I liked and much prefered to let them enjoy me in any way they wanted. Of course as I matured I realized I could take charge if that was included in what was wanted. :)
 
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I guess for me being submissive didn't come naturally. Being pleasing always did in making love, but there's a difference between that and being submissive. I think most of my partners, at one point or another, have become aggressive and only one whom I had a ds relationship with.

I find all the hardware and zippers and hood and leashes a real turn off and especially in photos. There hasn't been a leash made that encompasses the heart and that's where it all comes from for me
 
Why thank you.

I'll look to do that in the future.

First though can I ask a question? What was the first foray into Femdom or Submission for any of the real domes or Subs out there? I guess what I'm interested in is not the first time they exerted dominance in some power dynamic with a submissive or submitted to a mistress in some power dynamic, but what was the moment when you found you were different from the vanilla types around you? What was that like?
I was 21, newly married...most of the time, my wife was on top. We didn't know anything about domination, that was just her preference, and thus, mine. I would spread my arms and legs to form an "X", and strain against imaginary bonds. I never told her, never asked for it...I wanted to be restrained because she wanted it, not to satisfy me. I still haven't grown out of that. Shame on me.
 
I find all the hardware and zippers and hood and leashes a real turn off and especially in photos. There hasn't been a leash made that encompasses the heart and that's where it all comes from for me

I agree. Symbolism, ritual, and ceremony are lost on me; I simply want to be owned.
 
I don't understand.

So the obese or aged aren't allowed to have any sexual expression?

Defective sexual urges? such as what...

What constitutes as proper sexual urges?

If the above is how you perceive BDSM why are you even commenting here in the BDSM Talk Forum?

You're the second to ask me that, if you think that anything I say qualifies as permission or denial to do anything, you're wrong. Let these libertine weirdos do what they please, I'm hardly in a position to stop them, but neither will I stop being revolted. And what the fuck is sexual expression? Is it something like what teenagers do when they claim to express themselves with their choice of clothing?

Defective sexual urges such as sitting on a carpeted floor in the middle of a baseball stadium, on a leash while normal people walk around tittering. I guess it stands to reason that a proper sexual urge would be something which does not include that.
 
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I'll get this started with some of my fave pics of male submission and female domination. Though in my thread I try to post pics of the whole spectrum of femdom so some won't be obvious in its connection to this subject. For me I look for images where the woman is taking control or just taking the initiative in her interactions with her man. So you may have to use some imagination to understand why I included them here.

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This is a good example of what I was talking about. It isn't obvious but use some imagination and you can see woman in this picture taking control and the man submitting to her.

It's one of the things I find fascinating is how the femdom/malesub (that aren't the 24/7 kind) How does the woman and man interact outside the bedroom or dungeon or what have you.
 
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