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Old 12-07-2017, 01:44 PM   #51
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You did pay other people. Doctors who got low cost government loans. Teachers who work for subsidized schools. Oil companies who receive federal subsidies. And on. And on. And on. I have friends who believe they did it all and paid for it all. And they’re full of shit.

I didn't say I did it all.

As for paying you're right, a bunch of companies/people are funded by tax dollars and in that sense you did pay for my stuff.

What a fucking scam.....granting the mental construct of legal authority may make their authority supreme, but the government is just a racket, a glorified mafia.
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Old 12-07-2017, 01:45 PM   #52
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I didn't say I did it all.

As for paying you're right, a bunch of companies/people are funded by tax dollars and in that sense you did pay for my stuff.

What a fucking scam.....granting the mental construct of legal authority may make their authority supreme, but the government is just a racket, a glorified mafia.
So how do you propose that the things that the federal government makes, maintains, and creates should be handled? Who should pay for the stuff you use?

Paving a highway costs several million. Corporate fraud would probably make it 3-5 times that expensive... so privatization would cost you more money...

Got another solution?
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Old 12-07-2017, 01:53 PM   #53
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I don't think you understand how much it actually costs to pave roads.

You don't live near an interstate? You never use one?

Because if you do... you're welcome!
My moms family got rich and in acquired a respectable amount of power in DC through construction back in the 70's.

I've got a pretty good idea how expensive it is.

Sure I have.

I'm welcome for what? I paid to use it, voluntarily no less unlike most taxes.... didn't you?
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Old 12-07-2017, 02:04 PM   #54
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So how do you propose that the things that the federal government makes, maintains, and creates should be handled? Who should pay for the stuff you use?
I should.

If I want on the public roads, I pay for a tag that says I paid my fair share.

I pay at the pump as a milage tax for maintenance etc.

Just like everyone else who uses the roads.

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Paving a highway costs several million.
What an arbitrary bullshit number.

Reality check....the cost depends on where, what materials and how big it is and how fast you want it done.
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Old 12-07-2017, 02:12 PM   #55
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I should.

If I want on the public roads, I pay for a tag that says I paid my fair share.

I pay at the pump as a milage tax for maintenance etc.

Just like everyone else who uses the roads.

Your fair share? fuck that... sounds like communism. You should be paying for the whole fucking thing, like a free market rebel!

You don't depend on ANYONE. You are a rugged individual.

If you depend on anyone else, for anything, at any time, you must be a socialist.
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Old 12-07-2017, 02:48 PM   #56
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You think it's a fact that if I take your money from you, you'll have more money than before I took it?

LOL PONEY UP PAL!!!!

Oh wait you're not ACTUALLY that dumb.....oh this is democrat fantasy hour so it only applies to other people right?

So when can I expect that check and all your assets???

Trust me by giving them all up to me you'll be better off and far more prosperous!!!
If I get goods or services I may be better off with those things than a pile of cash.
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Yes, mostly yes, no and no.

If not, you rely

They did not subsidize those things for me, I paid for them.

The ONLY thief I've dealt with is the government.

And no matter how you cut it, when the government robs me, I have less....not more.

That's why I bet you won't give me every penny you're worth, because you'll have less, not more.

Government is no different.
Do you just not get the idea of pooling money as a populous for things that all are using?
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And so did everyone else around you... that's how taxes work.

I helped pay for your stuff.
Some people really and truly only care about themselves and will never see the benefit of doing good for society.
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Old 12-07-2017, 03:52 PM   #57
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Your fair share? fuck that... sounds like communism. You should be paying for the whole fucking thing, like a free market rebel!

You don't depend on ANYONE. You are a rugged individual.

If you depend on anyone else, for anything, at any time, you must be a socialist.
look at all that ascription and bullshit.

I've never been against public services, infrastructure or national defense.

Just like I support public education and states having their own public option HC systems.

I just don't bullshit about what they or the policies surrounding them are nor do I suck off every half ass corporatist attempt to scam those systems by the Democrats.

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If I get goods or services I may be better off with those things than a pile of cash.
In certain cases that exchange is good.

A lot of it currently how ever is so fully loaded with shit the exchange is horrible.

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Do you just not get the idea of pooling money as a populous for things that all are using?
Yea I do.

Do you just not get the idea that not all are using and a few elites are abusing their authority to pool that money under threat of violence to exploit the many?

I'd rather do without than get taken for a ride.

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Some people really and truly only care about themselves and will never see the benefit of doing good for society.
Gotta take care of #1.....society sure as fuck won't.
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Old 12-08-2017, 01:10 AM   #58
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Old 12-08-2017, 05:35 AM   #59
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But the true Left and all Democrats want to take less from you and more from the elites. But you make it harder by providing a sanctuary.
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Old 12-08-2017, 06:18 AM   #60
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But the true Left and all Democrats want to take less from you and more from the elites. But you make it harder by providing a sanctuary.
Who are you trying to lie to man?

The true left wants to just take it all, total government ownership over the means and control over distribution of goods and services is the only practical pathway to egalitarianism.

And since when are Democrats up for tax cuts? Last I checked they were with the leftist and think you can tax people into oblivion, giving them shit in return, fill their own pockets and that's the prosperity formula!

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Old 12-08-2017, 06:21 AM   #61
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That is the lie. Nobody wants to raise taxes on the middle class. It doesn't even exist anymore. So vote D every time untill we can push Hillary into the R camp. And never ever speak ill of rhe Ds again or just accept that you are the problem and the best defense they have.
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Old 12-08-2017, 06:32 AM   #62
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That is the lie. Nobody wants to raise taxes on the middle class.
Then why do they keep doing it?

You fucking cheered one of the biggest tax hikes against the working/middle class in decades.....via an (R) scam no less.

All they had to do was put Obama's name on it and you were in.

Mother fuckers STILL defend that rip off scam like it's the greatest thing since sliced bread.

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It doesn't even exist anymore.
Sure it does.

It's just tiny and still shrinking because damn near the entire government is out there doing everything they can to strangle and destroy it.

Thanks leftist! I'm glad you're out there working hard to make sure it's as difficult as possible if not just downright illegal for me to make a living for myself.


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So vote D every time untill we can push Hillary into the R camp. And never ever speak ill of rhe Ds again or just accept that you are the problem and the best defense they have.
Yea! Blind partisanship!! That's the ticket!!

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