Who doesn't love a big cock…?

… a lot of people, apparently, and even some who hate them.

I bring this up because on my most recent story "Hadley's Cherry" there were a few readers who were anywhere from turned off to seriously offended by the main male character's large, um… endowment, and weren't afraid to say so. But from some of these comments, people were like "I'm sick and tired of writers thinking that big dicks make good stories…" And I'm kind of laughing because I don't and never said I did.

I mean, I fully admit that big dicks are not necessarily a turn-on for everyone, but it's a turn-on for me, and while not all of the men in my stories have huge ones, it felt right for this character to have one. And this story also features a female character with really small breasts so it's not like I'm just setting my stories in a crazy fantasy porno world where everyone is super well-endowed (not that there would be anything wrong with that, either…)

So what gives? Why would a character being well-endowed be such a turn-off that some one would stop reading a story just because it included one?
Have any of you also gotten a hard time for a well-endowed character?
And what is the obsession here? Since when have big penises been deemed literarily inferior?
Has anyone felt pressured to write about smaller cocks?
Or am I just being trolled by angry men with small dicks?

Probably not a reflection of your literary abilities so much as an opportunity for people to gripe, which seems to be humanity's second favorite activity. Think of their criticisms as the inverse of that old Woody Allen bit -- "Two elderly women are at a Catskill mountain resort, and one of 'em says, 'Boy, the food at this place is really terrible.' The other one says, 'Yeah, I know; and such small portions.' "

It's fairly common. First Time, Incest, and Loving Wives readers are the most likely to pitch a fit about anything beyond average endowment. ( though to be fair, LW readers pitch a fit about everything )

One way to mitigate this is to drop the inches and cup sizes. You can still describe the various attributes as being larger than average, but without the explicit mention of a nine inch dick or double-ds to light people's fuses, ( and not in the good way) many of these types of comment fall away.

What happens when you don't set the measurements in stone is that the reader has more latitude to decide what's "big" in their eyes. Those who want the big cock fantasy can read it that way, while those who prefer something closer to the norm can read it that way.

If using the measurements is the way you like to do things, there's nothing wrong with that. There's a readership for that here just like everything else. You just have to be ready for a very loud group of detractors who love to sneer at you for being "unrealistic" and the like.

All three of my stories have dudes with huge dicks. One thing that I've realized after reading all the negative comments (mostly from anonymous nimrods) is to write a story that you think is hot & sexy. You will never write a story that will please everyone. That's just not possible.

And two factoids that you can bring up to the haters:

1) Jonah Falcone...he has a penis that is 9 inches when flaccid & 13 1/2 when erect. I saw him on Howard Stern once.

2) One in 10,000 men have a penis that is 10 inches when erect. That means that there are approximately 1,514 men in the United States with huge cocks.

I would advise against getting into a direct confrontation in your comments section.

That's just asking for trouble, especially when you're confronting something along the lines of "unrealistic". That's an opinion, and no amount of citing examples can counteract that.

While many won't come back to see the comment, some will. Someone who's willing to come back to your comment board looking to see if you replied is also someone who might be inclined to drop 1s and nasty comments on everything you write.

Even if that person doesn't return, you can turn off other readers by brushing off opinions in comments. The more it seems like you're looking down your nose at the person, the worse the effect on your readership. It also encourages folks who share the views of the person you're slagging off to climb up on their soapbox as well.

If you leave it alone, other readers will often counter a less-than-desirable comment. That can turn into a positive, because it encourages readers who have the kink you're highlighting and the other reader is poo-pooing to comment, which can be something that attracts more readers.

The more outrageous or just plain wrong the comment is, the more likely others are to do the work for you.

All bets are off in Loving Wives, where every comment seems to attract two more that are nastier than everything up to that point.

Write it as you want it, and screw the complainers. There will be others who like it the way you write it.

TotalKnockout said:

So what gives? Why would a character being well-endowed be such a turn-off that some one would stop reading a story just because it included one?

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Since you asked: I'm one of those readers who stops reading when an author starts giving penis/breast measurements. It's not that well-endowed people are a turn-off for me, but previous experience has taught me that when an author gets into the measurements, it almost guarantees the story isn't going to include the things that are turn-ons for me.

I'm interested in the reasons why people have sex with one another: curiosity, loneliness, affection, to spite a third party, etc etc. In a story that emphasises measurements, the attraction usually depends heavily on those measurements and that just isn't a reason that interests me. Partly because I'm not wired that way IRL, partly because it's something I've seen about a million times since I started reading porn and I'd rather read something different.

It's pretty much the same reason I don't read the Interracial category. I have nothing against interracial sex - as Billy Bragg puts it, I've had relations with girls of many nations - but when a story appears in IR it means that the interracial angle is likely to be emphasised at the expense of characterisation, and that kills my libido.

This is a generalisation, of course; I haven't read your stories, so it's not a comment on your work specifically.

Mello_SixtyNine said:

And two factoids that you can bring up to the haters:

1) Jonah Falcone...he has a penis that is 9 inches when flaccid & 13 1/2 when erect. I saw him on Howard Stern once.

2) One in 10,000 men have a penis that is 10 inches when erect. That means that there are approximately 1,514 men in the United States with huge cocks.

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And every last one of them has his own feature story on Literotica

Something we've discussed occasionally on the Author's Forum: it's not really about what's possible, it's about what's credible. It's possible that the guy chasing my hero down a dead-end alley could be hit and stunned by a small meteorite but if I put that in a story, people are going to call bullshit.

Granted, a 10" penis is several orders of magnitude more common than a meteorite strike; on the other hand, the internet is full of dudes lying about their penises, so readers are all primed to be suspicious here.

Some people don't care about credibility in porn, and for those people none of this is a problem. Bigger is better - "It could go on Disneyland attractions by itself!" For others, me included, it's a turn-off. Although normally I'd just click off and look for another story rather than complaining about it or voting it down.

As they say: Your Kink Is Not My Kink, And That's OK.

I wonder if its insecure men complaining?

If you feel it fits the story then don't worry about it. If you were getting paid and the person paying said, "Hey, that's a little unrealistic" maybe you change it, but on a free site?

Do your thing. Lot of size queens on here that will love it as well as men that don't compare their cock to fictional ones which I think is the issue sometimes.

I have no worries. I can give my wife over twelve inches.

We just have to do it twice.

At least one character in all my stories has a large cock, make that very large, awe and fear inspiring large. Usually his name is Lance. Although, personally, as a bi-sexual i preer small, uncut cocks the are much more fun in the long run.

Gay porn, especially, seems to demand large cocks. Part of my desire to write large cocks could be compemsation as I am personally not very large, but also I have a friend who is only 5'1" whose cock is over a foot long. This is reality, not fantasy. When I was his roomate, all teh little blonde rich girls used to bring their girlfriends to the house just to see it.

Later on i counselled him because although it was a thing of beauty, a glorious sight to behold, it was nearly worthless as a sex tool. He literally had to hold at least one of his hands around it when he entered a woman, to keep from hurting her.

Now I know that iin porn women take much more than that sometimes, but again, this is reality.

Anyway, i have never taaken anyh eat for the big dicks iin my stories. But taking heat on Lit. means that you are becoming successful. There are lurkers on this site who hang out looking for bad things to say,

So take it with a grain. Hail t all peni! lo the long and the short and the fat.

I do not recall anyone saying anythiing about measurements. I hate measureents of brests or cocks or any of it. But to say that she gulped at the thought of taking it into her throat is not measuring. To say th sight of his cock caused her excitement but also tinge of fear, is not measurement. For a gfay male to chose a partner for anal based onsize is very realistic, one way or the other. so what i am saying is that large cocks or large breasts are ok in story for me, it is the actual meaqsurments (or measuring) in inches or centimeters that turns me off.

I agree that big cocks are an arousal element for GM stories--as they tend to be for a large slice of the gay male lifestyle in real life. Citing of inches is also a common element in the gay male lifestyle. So both elements run through a lot of my GM stories--and will continue to do so, because those turned off by it aren't in my target audience.

The bigger the better.

robertreams said:

At least one character in all my stories has a large cock, make that very large, awe and fear inspiring large. Usually his name is Lance. Although, personally, as a bi-sexual i preer small, uncut cocks the are much more fun in the long run.

Gay porn, especially, seems to demand large cocks. Part of my desire to write large cocks could be compemsation as I am personally not very large, but also I have a friend who is only 5'1" whose cock is over a foot long. This is reality, not fantasy. When I was his roomate, all teh little blonde rich girls used to bring their girlfriends to the house just to see it.

Later on i counselled him because although it was a thing of beauty, a glorious sight to behold, it was nearly worthless as a sex tool. He literally had to hold at least one of his hands around it when he entered a woman, to keep from hurting her.

Now I know that iin porn women take much more than that sometimes, but again, this is reality.

Anyway, i have never taaken anyh eat for the big dicks iin my stories. But taking heat on Lit. means that you are becoming successful. There are lurkers on this site who hang out looking for bad things to say,

So take it with a grain. Hail t all peni! lo the long and the short and the fat.

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You should write a story about your hung buddy.

I am sort of new here. Where may Hadley's Cherry be found?

think we have

commonalities...unfortunately you have no contact info also have views of freedom tower and SOL....would be nice to chat with a fellow nyc'er

TotalKnockout said:

… a lot of people, apparently, and even some who hate them.

I bring this up because on my most recent story "Hadley's Cherry" there were a few readers who were anywhere from turned off to seriously offended by the main male character's large, um… endowment, and weren't afraid to say so. But from some of these comments, people were like "I'm sick and tired of writers thinking that big dicks make good stories…" And I'm kind of laughing because I don't and never said I did.

I mean, I fully admit that big dicks are not necessarily a turn-on for everyone, but it's a turn-on for me, and while not all of the men in my stories have huge ones, it felt right for this character to have one. And this story also features a female character with really small breasts so it's not like I'm just setting my stories in a crazy fantasy porno world where everyone is super well-endowed (not that there would be anything wrong with that, either…)

So what gives? Why would a character being well-endowed be such a turn-off that some one would stop reading a story just because it included one?
Have any of you also gotten a hard time for a well-endowed character?
And what is the obsession here? Since when have big penises been deemed literarily inferior?
Has anyone felt pressured to write about smaller cocks?
Or am I just being trolled by angry men with small dicks?

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Mello_SixtyNine said:

All three of my stories have dudes with huge dicks. One thing that I've realized after reading all the negative comments (mostly from anonymous nimrods) is to write a story that you think is hot & sexy. You will never write a story that will please everyone. That's just not possible.

And two factoids that you can bring up to the haters:

1) Jonah Falcone...he has a penis that is 9 inches when flaccid & 13 1/2 when erect. I saw him on Howard Stern once.

2) One in 10,000 men have a penis that is 10 inches when erect. That means that there are approximately 1,514 men in the United States with huge cocks.

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thanks for the onfo

Measurements in erotica have always been an anathema to me but descriptions of size, big, well hung etc., can sometimes be useful.

sr hit the nail on the head with his comment on GM size preferences. Apparently, only well endowed guys get into sex videos because the male viewers like to associate themselves with a large dangly bit.

There is a reason why 'size doesn't matter' is relevant here. A woman's vagina is extremely elastic - just think, 8lb+ babies come down the canal the other way. All the stuff about, "She felt his huge cock pound against the neck of her cervix", is just nonsense. The vagina can expand to take small, medium or redwood trunk cocks.

WhatamIdoinhere said:

I am sort of new here. Where may Hadley's Cherry be found?

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Hey there! You can find the story here: http://www.literotica.com/s/hadleys-cherry

And I've submitted an edit which corrects the tense change issue (I accidentally switched tenses partway through the story and didn't catch it in the edit,) so that should be up in a few days.

I was new recently and I figured out that you can search for authors if you click on that link on the main page. If you search for any author's screen name you can find all their stories.

TKO

elfin_odalisque said:

All the stuff about, "She felt his huge cock pound against the neck of her cervix", is just nonsense. The vagina can expand to take small, medium or redwood trunk cocks.

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Um, I don't know about "neck of her cervix" (cervixes definitely don't have necks) but it is most DEFINITELY possible to feel the head of a guy's cock butting up against your cervix if his cock is longer than your vagina. It depends on the position and there are ways of avoiding it (angling hips, making thrusts more shallow) but it has nothing to do with thickness (or stretchiness). If a man has a 9" penis and his partner's vaginal canal is only around 7" long, it will happen sometimes. The sensation is painful/intense/pleasurable depending on your own experience; the idea not the actual feeling is more of a turn-on for me, whereas my ex loved both the idea and the feeling of "bottoming out" inside me. So you can be an anatomical stickler about certain things, but I can tell you from personal experience that it is most definitely NOT nonsense.

Now, going PAST the cervix with a penis…? THAT is nonsense.

Bramblethorn said:

*waves hand*

Since you asked: I'm one of those readers who stops reading when an author starts giving penis/breast measurements. It's not that well-endowed people are a turn-off for me, but previous experience has taught me that when an author gets into the measurements, it almost guarantees the story isn't going to include the things that are turn-ons for me.

I'm interested in the reasons why people have sex with one another: curiosity, loneliness, affection, to spite a third party, etc etc. In a story that emphasises measurements, the attraction usually depends heavily on those measurements and that just isn't a reason that interests me. Partly because I'm not wired that way IRL, partly because it's something I've seen about a million times since I started reading porn and I'd rather read something different..

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I think it's great that you know what you want, and it's certainly valid to have your own opinion, but I'm just curious why you think that all stories which include sizes necessarily don't include deeper details as well. I say this because I often talk about size in my stories, and not just sexual organs but body shape as well. And I switch it around. In this story the woman is very petite and flat-chested, in another the woman's soft and round. One of my guy character's is tall and skinny. I'm a visual person and I get a lot of pleasure out of painting a picture with words for my readers. I think one also can understand more about the character if they know how they look. I don't think this necessarily means psychology or deeper motivation doesn't matter, or is not included as well.

Sure, I've read stories where it was all about size all the time, and I find those less interesting too. It is your right to read and like whatever you like to read. Taste is taste. And if you read one of my stories and don't like the fact that the protagonist has a huge dick, and that makes you stop reading, fine. Not my business. But I think the thing I don't understand and what I'm trying to figure out is why people feel the need to post their own personal tastes as feedback on people's writing. If some one tells me I have grammatical errors I didn't catch, or they wanted more of a certain character's perspective or a better description of something, fine. Great. But to write "I hated that he had a big cock" is not constructive feedback, it's personal taste. But maybe, given that this is tame compared to some of the stuff I've seen posted as "feedback" on people's writing, this is too big of a hornet's nest anyway...

The internet provides a haven for individuals of very questionable interpersonal skills. Plus some people just love to argue, fight, and criticize. Jealousy also explains a great deal of human behavior.

I wish that I had the biggest cock in the world...that I could literally break hearts with my cock. That the worlds hottest and horniest size queens were lining up to be filmed in their efforts. Alas...my johnson barely protrudes past my navel. What does a guy do? Maybe he watches or reads about the biggest cocks in the world. It is so much fun.

TotalKnockout said:

I was new recently and I figured out that you can search for authors if you click on that link on the main page. If you search for any author's screen name you can find all their stories.

TKO

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Clicking on the "Authors" link on the story page doesn't work very often (it's one of those broken functions the Web site likes to ignore). If you search for them on the "Members" link, though, you can find them.

TotalKnockout said:

I think it's great that you know what you want, and it's certainly valid to have your own opinion, but I'm just curious why you think that all stories which include sizes necessarily don't include deeper details as well.

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Yeah, I think that sort of sweeping statement is barf too. (Actually, I think the assertion is insulting.) If I have a character in my story who is one who dwells on measurements (and there are types of characters who do that) or I'm targeting an audience that gets off on measurements, the reader is going to get those. That doesn't mean the reader is going to get any less of the complete story I try to provide most of the time (Although I'll write a stroker vignette from time to time too).

I guess the attempt to deny other writers and readers their own fetishes and just sticking to your own without trying to tell others what to write/read on Literotica just isn't going to go away on the forum, is it?

WhatamIdoinhere said:

Alas...my johnson barely protrudes past my navel. What does a guy do? Maybe he watches or reads about the biggest cocks in the world. It is so much fun.

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You could have a plastic surgeon lower your navel. It's all relative.

That is one hot story! I love your writing style. Horsecocks and nubile gymnasts...what not to like?

Your artwork depicts a woman who appears to be twice the size of a male who may get his neck broken at any time. Whats up with that?

TotalKnockout said:

Hey there! You can find the story here: http://www.literotica.com/s/hadleys-cherry

And I've submitted an edit which corrects the tense change issue (I accidentally switched tenses partway through the story and didn't catch it in the edit,) so that should be up in a few days.

I was new recently and I figured out that you can search for authors if you click on that link on the main page. If you search for any author's screen name you can find all their stories.

TKO

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