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Old 06-10-2018, 07:37 PM   #676
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I've said before that I'm reading the entire GPD Anthology from the bottom up. I just got to "Mercury Retrograde". Seventeen pages!? If I try to start that now, I might not finish the rest of the list until the 2019 GPD Support thread starts. Apologies MSTarot, but I'm going to skip your story for now, finish the rest of the list, and then come back to it. I'll finish off the anthology with a nice, long read.

Of course now that I've put that in writing, there is probably an even longer story lurking somewhere above.
You won't hurt my feeling to skip me to the last. It put it into word count Mercury R is about a 60k story.

I do hope you enjoy it though when you get to read it.
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Old 06-10-2018, 10:30 PM   #677
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I've said before that I'm reading the entire GPD Anthology from the bottom up. I just got to "Mercury Retrograde". Seventeen pages!? If I try to start that now, I might not finish the rest of the list until the 2019 GPD Support thread starts. Apologies MSTarot, but I'm going to skip your story for now, finish the rest of the list, and then come back to it. I'll finish off the anthology with a nice, long read.

Of course now that I've put that in writing, there is probably an even longer story lurking somewhere above.
Such a nice comment! Thanks!

And yeah, “head” is the navy term. But a) I’ve never liked it, b) I was in the army, not the navy, and c) I figured there’d have been some linguistic drift in the 300-10,000 years between now and then.

Nice catch, though.
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Old 06-17-2018, 10:38 AM   #678
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Do these kinds of events or contests usually have such staying power? The views on my story are still ticking up slowly but steadily three weeks later. I woke up this morning to find a new 'favorite'. Usually, once the "N" tag drops off, my stories go dormant until I publish something else.

I didn't really have much interest in competing in contests before, but if they usually keep your story in the spotlight like this, I'm starting to see the appeal.
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Old 06-17-2018, 10:48 AM   #679
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Do these kinds of events or contests usually have such staying power? The views on my story are still ticking up slowly but steadily three weeks later. I woke up this morning to find a new 'favorite'. Usually, once the "N" tag drops off, my stories go dormant until I publish something else.

I didn't really have much interest in competing in contests before, but if they usually keep your story in the spotlight like this, I'm starting to see the appeal.
Well, I am still working my way down the list. I thought it should be doable to read all of them as the list isn't that long, but there are quite a few long stories, and I don't spend a lot of time on reading at the moment.
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Old 06-17-2018, 11:09 AM   #680
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Do these kinds of events or contests usually have such staying power? The views on my story are still ticking up slowly but steadily three weeks later. I woke up this morning to find a new 'favorite'. Usually, once the "N" tag drops off, my stories go dormant until I publish something else.

I didn't really have much interest in competing in contests before, but if they usually keep your story in the spotlight like this, I'm starting to see the appeal.
When the event was still new Laurel kept the links in the SF&F hub live, and that helped. She still has a link to the contest entries on the home page. That helps, too.

With contests, the contest entries are linked on the home page and (at least for recent contests) from the story index page. Those links stay until the next contest starts taking entries, and as long as they're there they funnel reads to the stories. Of course, the winners get the biggest boost because they're named, but the benefits are definitely not limited to the winners.

I won't burden you with my graph of views over time for my Valentine's Day entry, which had a middle-of-the-pack finish. Initial interest was very high, as you would expect, then the rate of views remained steady through the contest. The rate dropped abruptly when the April Fools Day contest started taking entries, but that gave it a month-long ride. The ride is longer for some contests (April Fools, for instance) than it is for others.

The story still get's a significant number of reads and votes (including a recent series of bombs) and I'm not entirely sure why.
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Old 06-17-2018, 06:37 PM   #681
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I didn't really have much interest in competing in contests before, but if they usually keep your story in the spotlight like this, I'm starting to see the appeal.
I'm yet to be convinced that the regular contests change the overall result of a story a huge amount. My last contest story and the geek anthology one steadily received views and strengthening scores for a month so after falling from the front page. The movement is similar to any other story, though - a slow but steady increase. What I'm finding is that older stories are also getting faves - people working through my back catalogue, I guess. But that happens whenever I post something new, regardless whether it's in a contest or not.
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I'm yet to be convinced that the regular contests change the overall result of a story a huge amount.
Ideally, being in a contest won't change the story's score, but that's not always the case. Being in a contest does change your number of views and votes.
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Old 06-17-2018, 11:39 PM   #683
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Ideally, being in a contest won't change the story's score, but that's not always the case. Being in a contest does change your number of views and votes.
The two stories I have submitted to contests/events are the least-viewed stories of the twenty I've written. That probably has more to do with the categories in which they were published, however, than anything else.

I need to publish a story for a contest in the incest/taboo or exhibitionism categories to test whether this is true.

I'm curious whether this really is what other people have experienced: that publishing a story for a contest significantly increases its views and votes above what a similar story in the same category would have enjoyed if published outside a contest.
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Old 06-17-2018, 11:56 PM   #684
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The two stories I have submitted to contests/events are the least-viewed stories of the twenty I've written. That probably has more to do with the categories in which they were published, however, than anything else.

I need to publish a story for a contest in the incest/taboo or exhibitionism categories to test whether this is true.

I'm curious whether this really is what other people have experienced: that publishing a story for a contest significantly increases its views and votes above what a similar story in the same category would have enjoyed if published outside a contest.
If nothing else, the number of troll views and votes you'll get will put all others to shame.

If the rumours are to be believed.
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Old 06-18-2018, 01:17 AM   #685
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I'm curious whether this really is what other people have experienced: that publishing a story for a contest significantly increases its views and votes above what a similar story in the same category would have enjoyed if published outside a contest.
I'm yet to be convinced, but I'm not sure how you could ever test it.

My Songs of Seduction - Water (my mermaid story) was published late January in Sci-Fi and Fantasy, outside any contest, and stayed on the category front page for nearly two weeks. In that time it pulled several thousand views and a solid score, and is now up to 8100 views (which I think is pretty good for the category).

By comparison, my Geek Anthology entry, which fell off the category front page in three days because the story title was far down the alphabet, is only just crawling up to 1700 views (with a similar score).

I reckon it might have run stronger if it had been outside the Anthology, and stayed longer on the category front page in its own right. Mind you, it has received a much better vote/view ratio, and proportionally more comments (most from fellow Anthology entrants).
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Old 06-18-2018, 09:05 AM   #686
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The two stories I have submitted to contests/events are the least-viewed stories of the twenty I've written. That probably has more to do with the categories in which they were published, however, than anything else.

I need to publish a story for a contest in the incest/taboo or exhibitionism categories to test whether this is true.

I'm curious whether this really is what other people have experienced: that publishing a story for a contest significantly increases its views and votes above what a similar story in the same category would have enjoyed if published outside a contest.
You're likely to get a larger response to the question if you ask it on the contest support thread. It's a fairly common topic there.

Personally, I 'feel' like the contests boost my views and votes beyond what I'd otherwise have, but I can't really meet your requirements for a reasonable test (two similar stories in the same category, one in a contest and one not).

The closest I can get is my first Valentine's Day entry from 2016 (A Valentine's Day Mess, 65k views, 683 votes, 22 comments) and Part 2 of the same story (8.9k views, 89 votes, 2 comments, and a higher score than the original). There is always a drop-off from a part 1 to a part 2, but I wouldn't expect it to be that large.

My Pixie stories are another close miss. They aren't chapters. Pixie by the Fireside was in the Mature category and I entered it in the Holiday contest. It got 27.3k views and 236 votes and not a very good score. Mature is a small category. The three other Pixie stories all went into EC, which can produce a big response or a big yawn, and they average about 15k views and about 70 votes. The lowest score among the three stories in EC is the same as the score for the contest entry.
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Old 06-22-2018, 07:50 PM   #687
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I'm hesitant to call it a "rollercoaster" because my pace has been kinda sluggish at times, but there have been plenty of ups and downs. I've finally finished all but one of the GPD stories, and I found something to enjoy about each and every one of them. Really great collection. I've found a couple of new favorite authors and I'm looking forward to a couple of sequels/conclusions. I'm proud to have been a part of it.

Now, if you'll excuse me, I'm going to start on MSTarot's 17 page epic "Mercury Retorgrade". With a 4.92* rating, I'm hoping for a strong finish. But I might not be around for awhile.
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The two stories I have submitted to contests/events are the least-viewed stories of the twenty I've written. That probably has more to do with the categories in which they were published, however, than anything else.

I need to publish a story for a contest in the incest/taboo or exhibitionism categories to test whether this is true.

I'm curious whether this really is what other people have experienced: that publishing a story for a contest significantly increases its views and votes above what a similar story in the same category would have enjoyed if published outside a contest.
I'm a rookie, and the Geek Pride story was my first. I've had 1400 views and only 29 votes?! The score has been steadily dropping. It's down to 4.1 from a high around 4.4. I assume it's getting 3s. The comments were very positive and constructive. ( I need an editor or Beta reader). Based on the comments only, I am going to finish the sequel. I have a Nude Day story nearing completion. I'm likely going to enter anyway, and hope for constructive criticism.
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I'm a rookie, and the Geek Pride story was my first. I've had 1400 views and only 29 votes?! The score has been steadily dropping. It's down to 4.1 from a high around 4.4. I assume it's getting 3s. The comments were very positive and constructive. ( I need an editor or Beta reader). Based on the comments only, I am going to finish the sequel. I have a Nude Day story nearing completion. I'm likely going to enter anyway, and hope for constructive criticism.
SciFi&F is a small category, so views and votes tend to be small, but the ratio of votes/views is good and comments are there. The audience is engaged.

Keep at it. No-one's first story is their best, or at least we all hope it ain't.
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Still writing. My third story is posted. The score is low, and dropping like a stone. No comments

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Sure! The only thing to join is this thread, since the event itself has already passed.
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Do these kinds of events or contests usually have such staying power? The views on my story are still ticking up slowly but steadily three weeks later. I woke up this morning to find a new 'favorite'. Usually, once the "N" tag drops off, my stories go dormant until I publish something else.

I didn't really have much interest in competing in contests before, but if they usually keep your story in the spotlight like this, I'm starting to see the appeal.
I think it makes a difference being in the contests not just to that one story but if people like your writing style they tend to check out the rest of your work too, so it's a win-win situation. I try and enter all the contests for that reason and I will admit that I like the fact the story gets swept at the end of the contest to get rid of the troll votes. Over the years I have had some very dedicated trollers like most of the writers who have been around for a while. It's one of those things you just have to accept but the contest sweep helps to rid the story of a few.

The blue W is nice to have on your page if you get one of the top 3 places because the little bit of money isn't enough of an incentive to compete in the contests on its own, especially as being Australian it is a moot point now that even Amazon won't deliver here anymore, lol.

So despite the other positives, my verdict would be that most people enter the contests regularly for the views and votes or else you probably wouldn't see much of a turn out for the less popular ones. Gosh I hate the Halloween theme but I will try to scribble some thoughts down and give it a go, I like being part of a group like this one and I feel the same about the contest entrants. I like seeing how people interpret a theme in so many different ways
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