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From the late great Benny Hill, "Don't you even know the Queen's English."

"Well I always assumed that she was."

Several decades ago, long before he came out, Ian McKellen performed before HRM Elizabeth II. The magazine Private Eye reported on it, describing him as "one of the Queens' favourite actors". Beautifully subtle.
 
This.

I used to worry about how many words I “should” post, but now? Nah.

Most of my stories go around 24-29k. I think of 35k as “long.”

35k? Long? Rotflmao. Never Ending Love was I think 29 Literotica pages, which reduced the readers a bit coz I said so up front. That’s my longest but it didn’t hurt the rating for sure. I’d say just go with whatever you feel like but 3 lit pages is a good length.
 
So a follow up to Chloe and the others who routinely submit 30K word and longer stories.

When writing stories in this size range, what have your found works best for organization while working - keep the story all in one long file, break up into individual pieces to recombine before submitting, or ???

I'm gradually getting back into the saddle as a writer - editing my old stories for submission here gave me a push to get started again. My older stories were mostly quite short. But part of "get back to writing" is pushing myself to go longer - maybe not novel length just yet, but trying for novella sized. And I figured asking what works for those who do most of their writing at that length wouldn't be a bad idea.

Right now I'm just keeping it all in a single .rft file and editing with LibreOffice. It seems to work, but I end up doing a lot of scroll up and down when I want to move text or just cross check earlier parts of the story.

And Chloe? Given your output over the last few years I think you may fall into the "freak of nature" category in terms of productivity. Or maybe you're doing the rumored Asimov technique and typing on two keyboards simultaneously. I'm much more modest - if I can get up to a solid thousand+ words a day every day I feel like I'm getting things done.
 
So a follow up to Chloe and the others who routinely submit 30K word and longer stories.

When writing stories in this size range, what have your found works best for organization while working - keep the story all in one long file, break up into individual pieces to recombine before submitting, or ???
I've written a few single file stories as long as 37k, and having it all in one place suits me - that's about 100 - 110 Word pages. But, an important caveat, I never move text around as you've indicated you do - if I was doing that, I'd probably use smaller files. Many of my multi-chapter stories these days end up around 15k a chapter - that's a handy length both during writing and for posting.

I'm now preparing parts of my back catalogue for publication - my longest ended up 360 Word pages, thereabouts - now that in a single file was a pita!
 
So a follow up to Chloe and the others who routinely submit 30K word and longer stories.

When writing stories in this size range, what have your found works best for organization while working - keep the story all in one long file, break up into individual pieces to recombine before submitting, or ???

I'm gradually getting back into the saddle as a writer - editing my old stories for submission here gave me a push to get started again. My older stories were mostly quite short. But part of "get back to writing" is pushing myself to go longer - maybe not novel length just yet, but trying for novella sized. And I figured asking what works for those who do most of their writing at that length wouldn't be a bad idea.

Right now I'm just keeping it all in a single .rft file and editing with LibreOffice. It seems to work, but I end up doing a lot of scroll up and down when I want to move text or just cross check earlier parts of the story.
My stories tend to be in the range around 30K, and I kept my story in one big file. And that's important as I regularly create versions of my story. Then if I've cut out a section during the editing process and then decide I should put it back, I can then go back and find that section.
 
So a follow up to Chloe and the others who routinely submit 30K word and longer stories.

When writing stories in this size range, what have your found works best for organization while working - keep the story all in one long file, break up into individual pieces to recombine before submitting, or ???

I'm gradually getting back into the saddle as a writer - editing my old stories for submission here gave me a push to get started again. My older stories were mostly quite short. But part of "get back to writing" is pushing myself to go longer - maybe not novel length just yet, but trying for novella sized. And I figured asking what works for those who do most of their writing at that length wouldn't be a bad idea.

Right now I'm just keeping it all in a single .rft file and editing with LibreOffice. It seems to work, but I end up doing a lot of scroll up and down when I want to move text or just cross check earlier parts of the story.

And Chloe? Given your output over the last few years I think you may fall into the "freak of nature" category in terms of productivity. Or maybe you're doing the rumored Asimov technique and typing on two keyboards simultaneously. I'm much more modest - if I can get up to a solid thousand+ words a day every day I feel like I'm getting things done.

My brain's never had trouble organizing a story, so I just write the thing in one massive file. If there's something I want to make sure I remember, like a line of dialogue that won't come into play until much later, or an inspiration for a particular scene, I'll note it on a separate page at the end of the file and delete it once it's been used/tackled/no longer necessary.

I've never once moved large chunks of the story around while it was in progress, but I think that's just because I'm good at juggling stuff in my head and making sure everything is slotted where it belongs before I start writing. Small bits and pieces I've swapped around, of course, but never more than a few lines or a paragraph at a time. If I needed to shift more than that in the course of a short story (the longest thing I've submitted here was only 29k words), something has gone horribly wrong and I'd be better served wiping the whole thing and starting over. :)

I agree with your assessment of Chloe though. The girl claims to have a life outside of writing, but all the evidence so far points either to that being a lie or to her being a cyborg. ;)
 
My stories tend to be in the range around 30K, and I kept my story in one big file. And that's important as I regularly create versions of my story. Then if I've cut out a section during the editing process and then decide I should put it back, I can then go back and find that section.

Yes, I'm definitely doing that one - save early & often! It seems as if about a quarter of my writing time as the story gets longer is either slight edits of the immediately preceding section or adding small changes earlier in the story to better lead into the way the story has shaped itself.

One of my problems is that I'm generally sympathetic to the main characters, and want to give at least hints of personality and interests outside the story. Which can add interest to a straightforward sex story, but requires a bit more thought than "Tab A into orifice C, digits B1 and B2 into orifice D".

The current piece I'm working on was meant to be a long, extremely sex-heavy story where a couple finds that their partners are much kinkier than they ever imagined - with kinks that dovetail with their own, so after some shock and readjustment they hump happily off into the sunset. And at some level it's following that outline - but I end up going back to add little bits here and there that show why they have these kinks, why they're a turn-on, and why (shame and fear) they'd hidden them from their lover. I'm trying to keep this tendency under control so I can just *finish the story* before revising things.

The nice thing about writing shorter pieces of just a few thousand words is that they're typically just one or two scenes with just a bit of lead-in, and just a few words in the right place can establish a character's personality and motivation. And once you've polished those one or two scenes, the story is ready to go. Longer stories, even with the marathon writing session, take longer, and having a job and a spouse means that my typical ~1000 words per day rate is about as much as I can manage. So longer stories take a couple of weeks to finish. giving me much more time to fiddle with things.
 
I use Scrivener for compiling my stories these days.

I'm not a seat-of-the-pants writer. I like to break stories down into individual chapters/scenes/sequences and keep each in a separate document that can be written out of order and moved around (or removed) later like puzzle pieces. Even a short, single-scene porn story can usually be broken down into several discrete sequences.

Before I ever start my first draft, I also tend to generate large amounts of notes and research, and I like to keep that stuff separate from my active story files.

Scrivener helps me keep all those different files organized and laid out in an outline-like fashion. It also lets me add pictures, sound files, and videos. Writing porn, especially, it can be useful to have some visual inspiration.
 
Scrivener sounds interesting - thanks for the suggestion. The price certainly isn’t prohibitive. Just being able to generate out of order sequences and put them together later would be a major help, since most word processors are rather more linear.
 
I've written a few single file stories as long as 37k, and having it all in one place suits me - that's about 100 - 110 Word pages. But, an important caveat, I never move text around as you've indicated you do - if I was doing that, I'd probably use smaller files. Many of my multi-chapter stories these days end up around 15k a chapter - that's a handy length both during writing and for posting.

I'm now preparing parts of my back catalogue for publication - my longest ended up 360 Word pages, thereabouts - now that in a single file was a pita!

Would that be size A4 pages ?
 
35k? Long? Rotflmao. Never Ending Love was I think 29 Literotica pages, which reduced the readers a bit coz I said so up front. That’s my longest but it didn’t hurt the rating for sure. I’d say just go with whatever you feel like but 3 lit pages is a good length.

I have only published 5 (soon to be 8) stories but I have been a reader on Lit for a long time. I prefer the 3 to perhaps 5 pages per chapter approach because I tend to read on a smartphone or tablet and don't often have hours to devote to a long story and LIT does not have a bookmark feature to let you easily pick up where you let off.

Of course the peril is that I have had some time gaps between chapters and that seems to cause readership to fall off.

Unrelated, but I would strongly urge getting at least a beta reader/editor. No matter how good your self edit skills, another set of eyes tend the reduce the "WTF" moments of "how did I miss that?"
 
Hope this isn't hijacking, but this is fascinating as a new writer publishing their first work. My initial installment is just over 5k words, but it sounds like I need to let that simmer a bit until I compile a longer tale to gain ratings... Can shorter, more frequent chapters succeed? From my (limited) previous experience with other fetish erotica sites, chapters are typically much shorter, which I tend to prefer to gain feedback if I'm straying off course, or keeping things on path.

Honestly, I've been pretty shocked by how long Lit takes to publish. I first submitted in .rtf format and waited 5 days. It was still pending when I bailed on .rtf and used a tool to convert to html and started the process over. I can't believe it takes so long.
 
Hope this isn't hijacking, but this is fascinating as a new writer publishing their first work. My initial installment is just over 5k words, but it sounds like I need to let that simmer a bit until I compile a longer tale to gain ratings... Can shorter, more frequent chapters succeed? From my (limited) previous experience with other fetish erotica sites, chapters are typically much shorter, which I tend to prefer to gain feedback if I'm straying off course, or keeping things on path.

Honestly, I've been pretty shocked by how long Lit takes to publish. I first submitted in .rtf format and waited 5 days. It was still pending when I bailed on .rtf and used a tool to convert to html and started the process over. I can't believe it takes so long.

Realize that there is exactly one person, laurel. the owner of the site that makes all publication decisions. Plus I was told when i published my first story and it seemed to take forever that she tends to scrutinize new writers more closely. I noticed my last story was published in about 48 hours from submission
 
When you are submitting regularly, the posting time will go down. Mine usually take two days, although the last submission took three. That said, I write a lot in the mainstream, where the average waiting time to publication is nine months. Even in an anthology I volume edit based on contests, publishing is about six months after the end of the contest.

I don't recommend starting off in building a story portfolio by worrying about length much--and most definitely not about padding it to get approval of folks reading it for free. Write the story the length it naturally spins out to.

On how to submit, I've used direct copy and paste into the text box for some 1,200 stories here, and that's worked quite well.
 
I moved to Google Docs. I can write practically anywhere and on anything, plus share the doc with an editor who can leave comments. You can also allow editing if you allow it. I did most of my story on a Samsung Note 8. It’s got a large enough screen to easily read, but small enough for reasonable privacy on the train. I really like the pen for scribbling short notes.

Russ
 
Can shorter, more frequent chapters succeed?
Depends on the category and how you define "succeed". How 28-days worth of stories performed:
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I have only published 5 (soon to be 8) stories but I have been a reader on Lit for a long time. I prefer the 3 to perhaps 5 pages per chapter approach because I tend to read on a smartphone or tablet and don't often have hours to devote to a long story and LIT does not have a bookmark feature to let you easily pick up where you let off.

Of course the peril is that I have had some time gaps between chapters and that seems to cause readership to fall off.

Unrelated, but I would strongly urge getting at least a beta reader/editor. No matter how good your self edit skills, another set of eyes tend the reduce the "WTF" moments of "how did I miss that?"

My brain's never had trouble organizing a story, so I just write the thing in one massive file. If there's something I want to make sure I remember, like a line of dialogue that won't come into play until much later, or an inspiration for a particular scene, I'll note it on a separate page at the end of the file and delete it once it's been used/tackled/no longer necessary.

I've never once moved large chunks of the story around while it was in progress, but I think that's just because I'm good at juggling stuff in my head and making sure everything is slotted where it belongs before I start writing. Small bits and pieces I've swapped around, of course, but never more than a few lines or a paragraph at a time. If I needed to shift more than that in the course of a short story (the longest thing I've submitted here was only 29k words), something has gone horribly wrong and I'd be better served wiping the whole thing and starting over. :)

I agree with your assessment of Chloe though. The girl claims to have a life outside of writing, but all the evidence so far points either to that being a lie or to her being a cyborg. ;)
Right now I'm finishing up the first major section of my current story - probably be at bit over 11K at that point, so I'm saving it as "section 1" and creating a new file for the next chunk, just to ease the logistics a bit. When the story's complete, I can decide whether to post it as multiple parts, or put the files together into one bigger one before posting.

It's looking to be three parts so far, although the last part could be expanded enough to make four - I'll make that call when I get there. Either way, I don't intend to post until the whole thing's done, so even if I go multi-part and Laurel decides to space them out a bit there shouldn't be too long a delay.

And Chloe? I like her writing (and despair of matching her polish and characterization skills). I owe her a bit of a debt for giving me the push to publish my stories and start writing again. And I wonder if she's not really a Chinese/Polish/American joint venture into creating a cyborg writer. Or maybe a cyborg ninja Mata Hari. But for now, I'm going with the Chloe of her Troll story being a Purloined Letter method of admitting the truth. Just don't give her a reason to shoot you and you'll be fine.
 
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