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well i suppose your initial posts in this thread calling 12 a self-proclaimed exterminator, and then more or less slating us all as ass-kissers who care little for the quality of poetry here, didn't exactly help create the most condusive atmosphere.See, here's the thing. I had no agenda. I was just here to write. Why, then, am I getting such hostility?
i get that. i don't get you coming into this thread and posting the way you did first.Yes. It was time for a new name. I wasn't trying to fool anyone. I just wanted to switch to something simpler.
I don't really care about the Es or the Hs. I just want to write without being called nasty names for coming to write poems. That would be nice.
And apparently E's are just being given out willy nilly.
http://www.literotica.com/p/out-of-space
Now I'm left questioning why I got those two E's recently.
I believe the E in this case stands for extraterrestrial
well i suppose your initial posts in this thread calling 12 a self-proclaimed exterminator, and then more or less slating us all as ass-kissers who care little for the quality of poetry here, didn't exactly help create the most condusive atmosphere.
has anyone been slating your writing on your return? you're a good writer. if you are here with no agenda (and i'm not stating you have one at all) then write, enjoy the site, welcome back.
i get that. i don't get you coming into this thread and posting the way you did first.
i admire your writing and appreciate your knowledge of poetry. this place needs writers, not people bitching at eachother creating defensive/antagonistic atmospheres. i hope to read your work.
Thanks, Butters. I have seen that penetrating eye before! Yep. I got some hugs off-site and some nice comments to the two I posted to New Poems. I won't post much there as it is hard to know what response there is genuine. I will post on the forum from time to time and will be around if anyone wants to hit me up for a reaction to any given poem assuming that the poet gives a crap what I say to begin with, is interested in actual criticism, and plans on editing the poem.
Many people who have been here many years including the one who argues so fiercely against them have alts. I was advised to post under an alt by the esteemed AnnaSwirls who said that would be a good way to find out if people just like me or my poetry.
I found out that even though my poems, when posted anonymously, won contests here, got me compared to Wicked Eve (another esteemed poet), and garnered good marks and feedback here, that when I posted as who I am, because of that unfortunate flirting years and years and years ago (longer ago than the time it takes to get over breaking a frickin' mirror) that the second I post again, two poets post scathing poems. 12 posted one indicating that a newbie (and I was the only newbie to this board within that week that I could see) was a maggot who needed pesticide.
I have also noticed that despite being given 5s by people who have acquired many Es, despite having poems here for years with hundreds of views, I never ever ever am allowed to acquire more than 10 votes. Hmmmm. That's odd, ain't it?
Despite winning contests here, moderating here for two years, giving hundreds of votes and reviews and feedback here, completely without agenda, 12 doesn't consider me an asset. Plus the insecticide poem.
Despite actually publishing in AnnieSwirl's publication, being selected for that issue by Patrick Carrington, being asked to present poetry and to moderate and present at a separate event in San Francisco and New York City, and despite hosting an online poetry open mic for 8 years, I still cannot get enough cred. for people who do not suffer from prejudice to believe that Lit is gamed and it is not gamed from the outer boards. Not from outer space. Not from Newbs. It is gamed from the top.
Even if I won the Pulitzer Prize for Poetry and were Poet Laureate of all known countries in the world, I would never be allowed to get an H or an E here. Because. Once. 8 and a half years ago I wounded, quite accidentally, the ego of a very. influential. poet. All it takes is one. Ok. Not talking more. From now on, just poems. Or talk about poems. Nothing more need said about me. Please know that this is unleashing my tongue after holding it for years.
I wish you all WELL! If you have not been affected by the gaming (which absolutely does exist) then good on ya! Best blessings and joy all around. I have no malice at all, not even an ounce, to anyone here, even if that person has called me a maggot, a pie, a piece of dung, an incompetent, etc. It's all nothing to me.
But I would like to write poems and to engage in useful conversation about poetry. Nothing else from here on out.
Peace.
PC
Many people who have been here many years including the one who argues so fiercely against them have alts. I was advised to post under an alt by the esteemed AnnaSwirls who said that would be a good way to find out if people just like me or my poetry.
I found out that even though my poems, when posted anonymously, won contests here, got me compared to Wicked Eve (another esteemed poet), and garnered good marks and feedback here, that when I posted as who I am, because of that unfortunate flirting years and years and years ago (longer ago than the time it takes to get over breaking a frickin' mirror) that the second I post again, two poets post scathing poems. 12 posted one indicating that a newbie (and I was the only newbie to this board within that week that I could see) was a maggot who needed pesticide.
I have also noticed that despite being given 5s by people who have acquired many Es, despite having poems here for years with hundreds of views, I never ever ever am allowed to acquire more than 10 votes. Hmmmm. That's odd, ain't it?
Despite winning contests here, moderating here for two years, giving hundreds of votes and reviews and feedback here, completely without agenda, 12 doesn't consider me an asset. Plus the insecticide poem.
Despite actually publishing in AnnieSwirl's publication, being selected for that issue by Patrick Carrington, being asked to present poetry and to moderate and present at a separate event in San Francisco and New York City, and despite hosting an online poetry open mic for 8 years, I still cannot get enough cred. for people who do not suffer from prejudice to believe that Lit is gamed and it is not gamed from the outer boards. Not from outer space. Not from Newbs. It is gamed from the top.
Even if I won the Pulitzer Prize for Poetry and were Poet Laureate of all known countries in the world, I would never be allowed to get an H or an E here. Because. Once. 8 and a half years ago I wounded, quite accidentally, the ego of a very. influential. poet. All it takes is one. Ok. Not talking more. From now on, just poems. Or talk about poems. Nothing more need said about me. Please know that this is unleashing my tongue after holding it for years.
I wish you all WELL! If you have not been affected by the gaming (which absolutely does exist) then good on ya! Best blessings and joy all around. I have no malice at all, not even an ounce, to anyone here, even if that person has called me a maggot, a pie, a piece of dung, an incompetent, etc. It's all nothing to me.
But I would like to write poems and to engage in useful conversation about poetry. Nothing else from here on out.
Peace.
PC
So ........ now that one misunderstanding has been cleared up, let's tackle another.
PC, post a link to the other scathing poem you assumed was directed at you within your first week returned as Playcatch.
I point out Ms. PC or PG, I called you not a newb (correctly), i.e.Many people who have been here many years including the one who argues so fiercely against them have alts. I was advised to post under an alt by the esteemed AnnaSwirls who said that would be a good way to find out if people just like me or my poetry.
I found out that even though my poems, when posted anonymously, won contests here, got me compared to Wicked Eve (another esteemed poet), and garnered good marks and feedback here, that when I posted as who I am, because of that unfortunate flirting years and years and years ago (longer ago than the time it takes to get over breaking a frickin' mirror) that the second I post again, two poets post scathing poems. 12 posted one indicating that a newbie (and I was the only newbie to this board within that week that I could see) was a maggot who needed pesticide.
I have also noticed that despite being given 5s by people who have acquired many Es, despite having poems here for years with hundreds of views, I never ever ever am allowed to acquire more than 10 votes. Hmmmm. That's odd, ain't it?
Despite winning contests here, moderating here for two years, giving hundreds of votes and reviews and feedback here, completely without agenda, 12 doesn't consider me an asset. Plus the insecticide poem.
Despite actually publishing in AnnieSwirl's publication, being selected for that issue by Patrick Carrington, being asked to present poetry and to moderate and present at a separate event in San Francisco and New York City, and despite hosting an online poetry open mic for 8 years, I still cannot get enough cred. for people who do not suffer from prejudice to believe that Lit is gamed and it is not gamed from the outer boards. Not from outer space. Not from Newbs. It is gamed from the top.
Even if I won the Pulitzer Prize for Poetry and were Poet Laureate of all known countries in the world, I would never be allowed to get an H or an E here. Because. Once. 8 and a half years ago I wounded, quite accidentally, the ego of a very. influential. poet. All it takes is one. Ok. Not talking more. From now on, just poems. Or talk about poems. Nothing more need said about me. Please know that this is unleashing my tongue after holding it for years.
I wish you all WELL! If you have not been affected by the gaming (which absolutely does exist) then good on ya! Best blessings and joy all around. I have no malice at all, not even an ounce, to anyone here, even if that person has called me a maggot, a pie, a piece of dung, an incompetent, etc. It's all nothing to me.
But I would like to write poems and to engage in useful conversation about poetry. Nothing else from here on out.
Peace.
PC
Post a link, I forget what it was. I'll try to live up to the rep. But off the top of my head I think the pome had no unexpected turns and was predictable. i.e standard.I'm a big boy. Don't be shy.
PC .......?
Pandora Clitters?
Post a link, I forget what it was. I'll try to live up to the rep. But off the top of my head I think the pome had no unexpected turns and was predictable. i.e standard.
ah, ok, arm surgery...I forgot what we were even discussing after Pandora had the meltdown and you disappeared for a week.
ah, ok, arm surgery...
as an elaboration on above and in general, (impersonal) you are lucky to get more than three real readers (which is not saying that there are only three real readers here) with that in mind, unless a specific is mentioned or a key concept is identified, comments are useless and the voting system is seriously flawed.
italics mine, from another thread hereIndeed, but variation is always introduced later in a poem, for how can one vary what is just being established. I think the first line is a fist slamming a table in emphasis and displaying wanton disregard of rules. Shelley uses his syllables to spark revolution.