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11-16-2012, 08:57 PM
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So how does the Affordable Care Act violate that?
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It forces Catholic healthcare providers to pay for contraception.
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11-16-2012, 09:24 PM
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Loves Spam
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Who is John Galt?
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11-16-2012, 09:44 PM
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early bird snack pack
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100% chance?
Doesn't work.
It can only be either a 99% chance at most, or 100% certainty.
You're welcome.
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If you are in good health and averagely diligent about hygiene, you will have a herd of about one trillion bacteria grazing on your fleshy plains - about a hundred thousand of them on every square centimetre of skin. They are there to dine off the ten billion or so flakes of skin you shed every day, plus all the tasty oils and fortifying minerals that seep out from every pore and fissure. You are for them the ultimate buffet, with the convenience of warmth and constant mobility thrown in.
By way of thanks, they give you B.O.
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11-16-2012, 09:45 PM
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Who is John Galt?
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Someone made up by a welfare queen.
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There is always a point at which the terrorist ceases to manipulate the media gestalt. A point at which the violence may well escalate, but beyond which the terrorist has become symptomatic of the media gestalt itself. Terrorism as we ordinarily understand it is innately media-related.
William Gibson
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11-17-2012, 02:42 AM
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Yay, a group that has sheltered pedophiles for generations is standing up for its principles!
Yay!
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" I thank God for my stupidity" ---- eyer
" In my world females are 2nd rate humans " --- JAMESBJOHNSON
"I would rape badbabysitter for being such a pussy about being raped." ---Lancecastor
"All that matters is we agree with Lt that this survey shows men are morally superior to women, but there is nothing misogynistic about that." --- bronzeage
"The natural order of things is for women to quit work and do the dishes." ---LT
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11-17-2012, 06:14 AM
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Pragmatic Metaphysician
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Originally Posted by blobfish
It forces Catholic healthcare providers to pay for contraception.
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LOL no it doesn't. Not even a little bit.
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Originally Posted by vetteman
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion; or prohibiting the free exercise thereof..."
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There's nothing in the Catholic faith about providing insurance for employees. If they find that insurance is something incompatible with their religion then they simply shouldn't buy it. |
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11-17-2012, 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by blobfish
It forces Catholic healthcare providers to pay for contraception.
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Simply not true.
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11-17-2012, 10:47 AM
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"Almost all health insurers will be forced to include those 'services' in the health policies they write. And almost all individuals will be forced to buy that coverage as a part of their policies," said Alexander Sample, Bishop of Marquette, Mich., in one of the letters read to local Catholics. The rule doesn't apply to houses of worship, but does apply to church-affiliated hospitals, colleges, and social service agencies.
Kathleen Sebelius, President Obama's secretary of Health and Human Services (HHS), has said the move "strikes the appropriate balance between respecting religious freedom and increasing access to important preventive services."
She made that statement while announcing the "interim final rule" on Jan. 20. She said the rule, while allowing some exceptions and giving church-linked institutions a year from Aug. 1 to comply, is designed to ensure that women have access to birth control without co-pays or a deductible.
http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Politic...-birth-control
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11-17-2012, 10:56 AM
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nihilistictechnofetishist
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Let the Catholic church fuck off back to the sixteenth century where they belong.
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There is always a point at which the terrorist ceases to manipulate the media gestalt. A point at which the violence may well escalate, but beyond which the terrorist has become symptomatic of the media gestalt itself. Terrorism as we ordinarily understand it is innately media-related.
William Gibson
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11-17-2012, 11:05 AM
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Resurrected
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What it means LadyV is that the founders did not want an American Charles Beckett whispering policy into the ear of the President and the government of the United States. It does not mean that all religion be banned from public places or discourse. If it did, the painting on the Capitol rotunda wouldn't exist, the Ten Commandments wouldn't be carved in stone opposite the justices of the Supreme Court, the Congress wouldn't be opened with a prayer everyday, and our money wouldn't say "in God we trust."
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Originally Posted by LadyVer
Vette, the OP was about healthcare and the Catholic's Church against the ACA. Personally, I'm for complete separation of church and state and I'm a Christian.
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There is a huge and clear distinction between separation of Church and State and separation of Religion and Politics. One is essential. One is impossible. |
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11-17-2012, 11:12 AM
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11-17-2012, 11:32 AM
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11-17-2012, 12:23 PM
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...always dreaming....
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It will be interesting to see what the government does when the mandate forces the muslims to provide something that is against what they stand for.
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11-17-2012, 12:25 PM
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It will be interesting to see what the government does when the mandate forces the muslims to provide something that is against what they stand for.
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Make 'em eat pork. |
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11-17-2012, 01:25 PM
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Break up Amazon
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Originally Posted by koalabear
If the election affirms the Obama administration’s HHS mandate, there is a 100 percent chance that there will be civil disobedience in the Catholic Church, led by its bishops. Whether jail will follow is anyone’s guess...
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Obviously, the first step is to challenge it in the courts on First Amendment grounds.
However, failing this, I hope they follow through with peaceful refusal to implement the provisions that violate their religious beliefs. I think that even liberal post-modern Americans will recoil when peaceful dissenters and clergy are thrown in prison simply for following reasonable tenants of their beliefs. It may wake Americans up. |
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11-17-2012, 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted by renard_ruse
Obviously, the first step is to challenge it in the courts on First Amendment grounds.
However, failing this, I hope they follow through with peaceful refusal to implement the provisions that violate their religious beliefs. I think that even liberal post-modern Americans will recoil when peaceful dissenters and clergy are thrown in prison simply for following reasonable tenants of their beliefs. It may wake Americans up.
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Why put them in jail? I'm sure financial fines will work better.
Again, what does this have to do with religion?
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11-17-2012, 06:28 PM
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Originally Posted by LadyVer
Vette, the OP was about healthcare and the Catholic's Church against the ACA. Personally, I'm for complete separation of church and state and I'm a Christian.
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Here, here.
In addition, I think the Church had it coming to them anyway for getting into bed with the government. NO religious institution-- Hindu, Jew, Christian, whatever-- should be taking money from the government, ever. The minute you do that is the minute you decide to abide by their expectations. The bishops also originally supported the health mandate, and they're now going to go through a lot of the same issues the Protestant churches went through with the Bush handouts to faith-based organizations.
I say every religion should be able to be as it is and not be taxed, as they are religious institutions and not businesses. But they need to keep a far distance from the government. |
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