Looks like A Day Of Reckoning Coming For Some Leakers

someoneyouknow said:

If Kelly said this bordered on treason then he should be fired as well. Treason can only happen when we're at war. He should know that since he was a general.

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someoneyouknow said:

If Kelly said this bordered on treason then he should be fired as well. Treason can only happen when we're at war. He should know that since he was a general.

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HisArpy said:

"Borders on treason" is NOT "treason". Thus, Kelly's statement is true.

As for me, I'm waiting on facts and the leaker(s) arrest and prosecution. It will be fun to see if they can get an "impartial" jury.

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Conager said:

We have soldiers being shot at, and returning fire. Combat badges are being awarded. We are at war.

We just don't bother to declare any since the last declaration in June 1942.

For your statement to be valid it would be impossible to commit treason since the Armistice was signed.

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On the other hand, the authorization to use force in response to the terrorist attacks of 2001 has been asserted as legal authority for executive actions in the domestic context, the validity of which remains unresolved. The executive branch asserted that the authorization permits detention without trial of persons arrested in the United States on suspicion of Al Qaeda related terrorism, which it regarded as bolstered by the Supreme Court's Hamdi decision finding the detention of enemy combatants captured in Afghanistan to be authorized as "a fundamental incident of waging war." While there is limited authority to support military trials of enemy soldiers captured within the United States, in previous wars the Alien Enemy Act would likely have been the chief means of interning suspected enemies domestically. Under the executive branch view, the authorization to use force could be construed as broader than a declaration of war in that it is seen to authorize detention powers without any of the few rules or restrictions specified in the Alien Enemy Act, and to authorize the detention of U.S. citizens as an exception to the Non-Detention Act. Similarly, the executive branch argued that the authorization to use force must also be read to permit the conduct of certain types of electronic surveillance outside of the strictures of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act, even though that act provides for only a two-week exception triggered by a declaration of war. Accordingly, it is possible that any similarly broad authorization to use force may be read to authorize any power that may properly be regarded as "a fundamental incident of waging war" under the circumstances, at least as implied exceptions to statutes that admit of statutory exception.

https://www.everycrsreport.com/reports/RL31133.html

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someoneyouknow said:

His statement may be true, but it's technically not correct. The best kind of correct.

We're not at war, thus no possibility of treason.

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Colonel Hogan said:

In other words, while there is strong legal basis for concluding we are "at war," we are most certainly NOT at war with Russia, and even if we were, it is not clear that in a less than officially DECLARED war, that the legal construct for prosecuting a charge of treason would be upheld.

My own opinion is that it WOULD, but I could see an attorney making a strong argument to the contrary.

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Rightguide said:

Just this morning General Kelly said these leaks bordered on and may have crossed the line into treason.


Reports: Heads Will Roll: 3 Anti-Trump Leakers Found In WH, Face Prosecution

“CBS News has confirmed from two sources that three leakers of classified information at the White House have been identified and are expected to be fired,” CBS News reported this week, adding, “Officials within the Trump White House believe leaks of Mr. Trump’s conversation with Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov are a ‘deliberate attempt’ by officials who are holdovers from President Obama’s administration and are trying to damage the Trump presidency.”

"The alleged leaks coming out of government agencies are deeply troubling. These leaks have been going on for a long time and my Administration will get to the bottom of this. The leaks of sensitive information pose a grave threat to our national security. I am asking the Department of Justice and other relevant agencies to launch a complete review of this matter, and if appropriate, the culprit should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law," Trump wrote."

http://www.dailywire.com/news/16925...tm_content=052917-news&utm_campaign=position1

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adrina said:

Ha. Well perhaps if Donald had his proverbial and literal shit together this wouldn't be a problem.

This administration is a cluster fuck and it's not getting better. He can be concerned about the leaks all he likes. I'm more concerned with him being such an inept idiot. Not only the content of the leaks but that there are so many of them. It's a never ending drip drip drip. And it will continue to be that way unless and until he can get his act together. Chasing leaks won't do anything.

He'd be better off getting his house in order. But instead he'll just keep bumbling around and we can all go chase the newest shiny object. Yay.

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HisArpy said:

"Borders on treason" is NOT "treason". Thus, Kelly's statement is true.

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SEC. JOHN KELLY: I don't know where the leak came from. But I will tell you this, as I always do in cases like this, I immediately called my counterpart in the UK. And after offering my condolences about the attack - and unbelievably the third time in 120 days I've done that; I've called the minister and offered my condolences. She immediately brought this topic up. And, if it came from the United States, it's totally unacceptable. And I don't know why people do these kind of things, but it's borderline, if not over the line, of treason.

CHUCK TODD: Do you plan - you call - you believe it's treason, to leak some of this stuff, you believe that's treason?

SEC. JOHN KELLY: I do believe it is

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HisArpy said:

Okay, let me get this straight...

If someone is a clandestine operative who's mission is to sabotage, you blame the victim for the damage done by the mole.

And, of course Trump is now inept for not finding the spies which were CLEARED AND PUT IN PLACE BY HIS PREDECESSOR and/or administration officials and activated for this very purpose.

And you find this logical?

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adrina said:

Ha. Well perhaps if Donald had his proverbial and literal shit together this wouldn't be a problem.

This administration is a cluster fuck and it's not getting better. He can be concerned about the leaks all he likes. I'm more concerned with him being such an inept idiot. Not only the content of the leaks but that there are so many of them. It's a never ending drip drip drip. And it will continue to be that way unless and until he can get his act together. Chasing leaks won't do anything.

He'd be better off getting his house in order. But instead he'll just keep bumbling around and we can all go chase the newest shiny object. Yay.

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adrina said:

The man runs the most powerful office in the world like a 2nd rate clown show and is surprised when he gets 2nd rate clown show antics. This isn't a case of "what was she wearing". At some point, at some time, the buck is going to actually have to stop at his desk. And knowing him, when it does, he'll be on the golf course.

But of course I'm sure it's just a plot to take down Trump - not like he's not doing a good job of that on his own.

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HisArpy said:

the spies which were CLEARED AND PUT IN PLACE BY HIS PREDECESSOR and/or administration officials and activated for this very purpose.

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NOIRTRASH said:

We''l find out if youre right but many Americans are weary from the mediua/Democrat nonsense. And Hillary wants another prize fight for ther White House.

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Conager said:

Not everyone can have the executive experience and adroit leadership that can only come from a path of community organizer to junior Senator to leader of the free world.

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someoneyouknow said:

His statement may be true, but it's technically not correct. The best kind of correct.

We're not at war, thus no possibility of treason.

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