The beauty of submissive men

Veroe said:

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Netzach said:

Why does this have to be zero sum?

Both archetypes are important to me. I actually DO get off on some of the porny and problematic interactions with some people.

AND I actually do relational erotic BDSM with other people. I can be nurturing as fuck. But I will NOT have that demanded of me as part of being "correct" by anybody.

I'm sick of being told what I should and should not like. Dominant woman thing, I guess.

I will say that the "no REAL woman could possibly get off on treating men like this" that I've seen a lot of is VERY heterocentric. Women who do not relate to men heterosexually can certainly objectify them, exert sadistic power over them, and derive pleasure from it, and if that is consensually arranged, then what the hell is the problem?

Eroticism is a lot of things. Romance and orgasm is just one facet. You don't even have to have appropriate orientations or attractions that "fit" traditionally to have it.

So I'll take a pass on being saved from femdom porn, as much as I've taken a pass on having to conform to its dumbest standards.

And if I want to look at men being hot submissive and sexy, I look at gay smut. I never relate to the female presence at all in these things, whether it's conventionally hot or not when I'm in androphile mode on state. I want to be the consumer and consume him, not find an avatar that looks like me.

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Stag of Oberon said:

Unless one overhears you talking about how painful it is to hear from former subs.

Then when it's over; you'll never hear from them again, regardless of any suffering that may come with the silence.

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Erochic said:

I think it was one of those see boobs brain shuts off moments

I've realised that one thing I really enjoy about submissive men is the control... Their own self-control, even when they want to do something with every fiber of their being, give into the brain shuts off animal moment .... But they control it even through gritted teeth.

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policywank said:

Yes, exactly this. True control is demonstrated not by the ferocity of the mistress's commands but by the ease, simplicity and subtleness with which she asserts her control. The slightest gesture or look directed to a Sub who knows what is expected of him and complies without drawing further attention to himself.

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eroticspank said:

One more thought:

There is something very sexy about the Confidence of a woman who takes control in the bedroom. She is confident in her body, her sexuality, and her ability to control her sub. It is easy to follow when a woman like this leads, I am excited to explore and do whatever she wants.

ES

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Stag of Oberon said:

Unless one overhears you talking about how painful it is to hear from former subs.

Then when it's over; you'll never hear from them again, regardless of any suffering that may come with the silence.

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eroticspank said:

I love this thread, so many great comments like these above and from Bitodd, Miasorrow and others. I could talk about this for hours, there are so many misconceptions and ideas of what people "think" one should do.

To me it is about control also. One reason for the Domme to know the sub and what his fantasies are, IS about control and getting in his head. Knowing those things that turn him on and get him excited helps the Domme keep him on edge of his own control, gritting his teeth, submitting to her whim or desires above his own. The internal struggle and wrestling with self control is part of the endurance required to be a sub, but also is part of the pleasure of being one. The Domme sees this and it turns her on even more. When she does direct my own release, it is usually very intense do to the wonderful foreplay I have submitted to by pleasing her.

There may even be cases where she "tests" my control, bringing me to the edge, following her directions to not release until I eventually do. It turns her on to exert such control over me and even see me loss control at the end. This is not something I ask for as a sub or even hint at, I am under her control and it is what she desires or decides to do.

Most important is the pleasure I get from pleasing her and seeing my Domme enjoy herself. It is like seeing her devouring a very delicious bowl of soup. Her head in down concentrated on the soup, the textures and its' taste. She makes slurping noises, moaning or maybe not but she is clearly enjoying the pleasure of that soup. I want to be that soup to her and let her completely enjoy herself with me and whatever she directs me to do.

At the end, when she is completely satisfied, my release is at her discretion, but if it does come I feel it is done in love and caring. At the proper time and perspective, like under her direction, my release results in both a physical and an emotional release affirming my sub status and her acceptance of it and me.

ES

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Erochic said:

Mmm.... I just came (hehe Freudian slip) from spending a few hours with a sub, and that's exactly how I feel it was.

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LadyCarmen76 said:

I have difficulty finding pics that show male submission and Female Dominance in a positive light.......also, I would love some FemDom quotes, if anyone is willing to steer Me in the right direction, I'd appreciate it.........

One of My faves................

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ShyMaleSub said:

I am so glad I found this thread. Thank You, Ms Erochic, for starting it, and thanks to all, Domme and sub, who have contributed and kept it going.

I have recognized my submissive tendencies for nearly three decades, but I've only been able to act on them in a limited way for brief times in the late 90s and early 00s. Other times I've been able to only act through cyber, phone, or roleplay stories. I do try to avoid the tendency to only want one thing and "top from the bottom," but I see the value and beauty in submitting to a Domme's desires, whatever they may be.

I have found some ppstories on Literotica that do a good job of portraying the Domme/sub relationship in a loving, caring, supportive many. I will try to find links to post here.

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Erochic said:

Well I personally want my sub to have desires too, because otherwise there is nothing for me to work off - and a man's desire is a very powerful exciting thing. That adds fuel to my fire and my imagination and creativity.

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