Las Vegas shooting

Fortunately I've never needed to, so can't provide any proof.

Convenient, then, that the Internet exists so you can fantasizingly puff-up your chest and proclaim that you would anyway, eh wannabe?

On the other hand I'm not the one on a forum whining about baby killers and stating categorically that under no circumstances would I take action to save the life of someone who was about to be murdered.

Again: you diss me for seeing absolutely no logical reason "to save the life" of a baby killer like you, just because you're "about to be murdered"?

Instead of any more girlyman Internet boast and illogical emotion, can you please just offer ANY rational reason why I would even entertain such a meaningless thought?
 
The room belonged to his 'girlfriend'. He 'borrowed' her keycard, checked in on the 28th, preplanned everything, probably walked the grounds of the concert site.

WTF does any of this whinning and bitching about gun control, which side of any fence he sat on, how and why he had illegal automatic weapons, etc. have to do with stopping all of the violence?

By the way, there are no onions involved. The fucked up murdering killer retired from someplace unknown to us so far to live in Florida. Peel an orange and thank another FLORIDA MAN.

By the time this is over you'll know how often he masturbated and who he voted for. Yet we'll know very little about the 60+ dead and over 500 wounded.

A large group of innocent people died. Why not pay our respects and stop arguing. It's arguing that has fucked up America and the rest of this world.

You talk about rules and regulations. Most of you buttholes can't even follow the simple rules of Literotica, that's why 98% of you have alternates and repeatedly get banned.
It's members like you that buy illegal weapons and hide in Mom's basement, waiting to kill more innocent bystanders.

Leave the rest of us alone to enjoy our porn and friendship.

You going to see a doctor about all that Dollie-rot eating up your brain, or is it - as it clearly reads - far too late to do anything now about all that diseased dick Dollie's taken as you've jacked-off watching like a good little cuck for the last century?
 
The room belonged to his 'girlfriend'. He 'borrowed' her keycard, checked in on the 28th, preplanned everything, probably walked the grounds of the concert site.

WTF does any of this whinning and bitching about gun control, which side of any fence he sat on, how and why he had illegal automatic weapons, etc. have to do with stopping all of the violence?

By the way, there are no onions involved. The fucked up murdering killer retired from someplace unknown to us so far to live in Florida. Peel an orange and thank another FLORIDA MAN.

By the time this is over you'll know how often he masturbated and who he voted for. Yet we'll know very little about the 60+ dead and over 500 wounded.

A large group of innocent people died. Why not pay our respects and stop arguing. It's arguing that has fucked up America and the rest of this world.

You talk about rules and regulations. Most of you buttholes can't even follow the simple rules of Literotica, that's why 98% of you have alternates and repeatedly get banned.
It's members like you that buy illegal weapons and hide in Mom's basement, waiting to kill more innocent bystanders.

Leave the rest of us alone to enjoy our porn and friendship.

It's hard to decide who is a bigger moron, you or the thread starter.

I'm going with him for now, but I reserve the right to change my mind.
 
regulations, we don't need no stinkin' regulations.

112 guns per 100 citizens

The most of any country by almost double. Serbia has less. Freakin' Serbia.

With regard to the Obama rule that was repealed, I have not studied it in detail, but if the following is true, then the rule itself was deficient:

Iowa Sen. Chuck Grassley, a leading Republican critic of the rule, said it is filled with "vague characteristics that do not fit into the federal mentally defective standard" prohibiting someone from buying or owning a gun.

http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/02/15/515412800/senate-blocks-obama-era-rule-tightening-checks-on-mentally-ill-gun-buyers

Edited to add: The American Civil Liberties Union actually sided with [House] Republicans in urging the repeal of the rule, writing in a letter to members of Congress that, "We oppose this rule because it advances and reinforces the harmful stereotype that people with mental disabilities, a vast and diverse group of citizens, are violent."

http://www.npr.org/2017/02/02/513126985/house-votes-to-overturn-obama-rule-restricting-gun-sales-to-mentally-ill

In other words, there wasn't enough legal distinction for the ACLU to differentiate between mentally disturbed individuals who were demonstrably capable of owning and operating a firearm and those who were not. And the organization clearly rejects a "blanket exclusionary" policy based on medical necessity. How 'bout you?

The guns per number of citizens statistic is also misleading. The following article paints a 22-year decline in gun ownership which currently rests at 36%. The nonetheless increase in gun sales are simply due to that 36 percentile owning MORE guns.

But gun purchases, as measured by FBI firearm background checks, are at historic highs. And data from the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms shows that gun manufacturers are churning out record numbers of guns. Many gun rights advocates argue that these figures mean that the overall number of gun owners is growing: If more guns are being sold, more people must be owning guns.

But the declining rates of gun ownership across three major national surveys suggest a different explanation: that most of the rise in gun purchases is driven by existing gun owners stocking up, rather than by people buying their first gun. A Washington Post analysis last year found that the average American gun owner now owns approximately eight firearms, double the number in the 1990s.
 
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Yeah Angie, nobody from the Left is jumping to any conclusions here...

Nothing declarative. :eek:

Oh don't be so fussy, Chief.
Maybe the next mass shooting will be done by a black or Hispanic or Muslim guy, and you can pump out all the high dudgeon and situational outrage you want.
 
Denny

It's hard to decide who is a bigger moron, you or the thread starter.

I'm going with him for now, but I reserve the right to change my mind.
This shouldn't take long. There's not much mind to change.
 
And that is essentially the environment in the United States today. If you lived here, you would know that. The vast majority -- as in an OVERWHELMING vast majority -- of people don't walk around with guns. Check out the following link: https://crimeresearch.org/2016/07/new-study-14-5-million-concealed-handgun-permits-last-year-saw-largest-increase-ever-number-permits/ Even in an age of concealed carry permits only 6.06% of the population has a concealed carry permit. And according to this Washington Post article, only 36% of Americans either own a gun personally or lives with someone who does -- a steady decline in gun ownership since 1978. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...rican-gun-ownership-is-now-at-a-30-year-low/.

The gun violence problem does not stem from an "armed population." It stems from a "armed sub-population" of criminals and the mentally ill who have gained access to firearms despite regulatory attempts to keep them from doing so.

Yes, but every time the gun control point comes up, someone cries 'self defence'. You live in a country that has normalised gun ownership - evidenced by your own stat that a third of Americans live with a gun - and then you're all surprised when some nutbar goes on a shooting spree. Regulation is not the problem - a culture that thinks guns are a 'right' is.
 
With automatic weapons?

Do you have any links? I'm not saying it's not possible, but I consider myself fairly well-read on this topic and I can't remember ever seeing anything like that.

http://www.guncite.com/gun_control_gcfullau.html

Since 1934, there appear to have been at least two homicides committed with legally owned automatic weapons. One was a murder committed by a law enforcement officer (as opposed to a civilian). On September 15th, 1988, a 13-year veteran of the Dayton, Ohio police department, Patrolman Roger Waller, then 32, used his fully automatic MAC-11 .380 caliber submachine gun to kill a police informant, 52-year-old Lawrence Hileman. Patrolman Waller pleaded guilty in 1990, and he and an accomplice were sentenced to 18 years in prison. The 1986 'ban' on sales of new machine guns does not apply to purchases by law enforcement or government agencies.


ETA: Dr. Shou Chao Ho killed Dr. Carmelito Olaes on Sept 14. 1992 in his front yard on Plum Creek Parkway in Brunswick Hills Township.... HO said he had owned a .380-caliber machine gun, the same caliber bullet that killed Olaes. He also said he had registered the guns with the BATFE when he purchased them.

http://www.mcall.com/news/all-hirkomar05-story.html




The officer was not convicted in this case of mistaken identity.

http://articles.latimes.com/2013/may/21/local/la-me-downey-shooting-20130522
 
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Yes, but every time the gun control point comes up, someone cries 'self defence'. You live in a country that has normalised gun ownership - evidenced by your own stat that a third of Americans live with a gun - and then you're all surprised when some nutbar goes on a shooting spree. Regulation is not the problem - a culture that thinks guns are a 'right' is.

You could always move to another country.
 
It's not a human right, but it is a constitutional right.

Also, if someone is this deranged, I'd rather he has access to guns, than trying to find more creative ways to kill people. The death toll would be far worse if he'd tried something more effective for mass destruction than relying on small arms.

This is a best-case scenario for someone who is that deranged and unhinged, and who is willing to partake in careful planning.

He could have poisoned water supplies, or blew up a mall, or a variety of other things that would have resulted in a significantly greater loss of life.

Everyone knows the Constitution was written at a time when that made sense. It still doesn't make it a human right.

And surely if that was the case, he would have done the thing that killed more people. I love in a country where guns are pretty much illegal. Trust me, we don't have a high incidence of nutjobs poisoning water supplies. That argument might seem logical in theory, but it's not backed up by fact.
 
Everyone knows the Constitution was written at a time when that made sense. It still doesn't make it a human right.

And surely if that was the case, he would have done the thing that killed more people. I love in a country where guns are pretty much illegal. Trust me, we don't have a high incidence of nutjobs poisoning water supplies. That argument might seem logical in theory, but it's not backed up by fact.

Do you live in a country with an unarmed police force? If not, I wonder why they choose to be armed?
 
Yes, but every time the gun control point comes up, someone cries 'self defence'. You live in a country that has normalised gun ownership - evidenced by your own stat that a third of Americans live with a gun - and then you're all surprised when some nutbar goes on a shooting spree. Regulation is not the problem - a culture that thinks guns are a 'right' is.

Actually Jane, you ignorant slut, gun ownership in America isn't "normalised[sic]", it's a constituted unalienable right intentionally/purposely specified so to place it above the purview of any government and/or - most certainly - every socialist bozo like you.

The ONLY way "gun ownership" normalisation[sic] can be altered in America to any degree that globalist pieces of socialist shit like you would approve, is to amend the Constitution so that Amendment II is no longer valid.

Good fucking luck with that, Jane.
 
Everyone knows the Constitution was written at a time when that made sense. It still doesn't make it a human right.

And surely if that was the case, he would have done the thing that killed more people. I love in a country where guns are pretty much illegal. Trust me, we don't have a high incidence of nutjobs poisoning water supplies. That argument might seem logical in theory, but it's not backed up by fact.

I mentioned before, Jefferson among other people, thought the constitution should be rewritten every so often ( time table debatable ) because what was necessary for politics and society for one generation may not apply for the next.

Americans often point out the constitution, but some of the key contributors of it implied that in time it wouldn't be worth the paper it was written on.
 
Everyone knows the Constitution was written at a time when that made sense. It still doesn't make it a human right.

Lets take the Constitution out of the argument for a moment. What makes you think it is not a human right to own a firearm that is used for all legal uses?
 
Again: you diss me for seeing absolutely no logical reason "to save the life" of a baby killer like you, just because you're "about to be murdered"?
Except that wasn't what your
Me? I reject ANY DEGREE of offensive physical violence against ANY ONE for ANY REASON - PERIOD.
statement was referring to.
Speaking of "disingenuous" :rolleyes:

And if you don't remember what you were talking about (I realize it's been several minutes), which is the only other reason you might have posted what you just die, click the link in the quote.
 
Yes, but every time the gun control point comes up, someone cries 'self defence'. You live in a country that has normalised gun ownership - evidenced by your own stat that a third of Americans live with a gun - and then you're all surprised when some nutbar goes on a shooting spree. Regulation is not the problem - a culture that thinks guns are a 'right' is.
How would you have told this woman to prevent violence against her and her kids if she didn't own a firearm when confronted by a man who broke in to her house with a crowbar?

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/georgia-mom-shoots-home-intruder-face-article-1.1234400
 
Denny

Lets take the Constitution out of the argument for a moment. What makes you think it is not a human right to own a firearm that is used for all legal uses?
I'm thinking in all of these mass murders firearms were not used legally.
The thread is titled 'Las Vegas Shooting'. It's about a retard like several commenters here doing something only a chicken shit irksome trouble maker would do to innocent people.

Yes I'm old and on medication. What's their excuse?
 
Everyone knows the Constitution was written at a time when that made sense. It still doesn't make it a human right.

You post "Everyone" as if you can possibly speak for anyone else but simply yourself. And you're a foreign socialist, too, right?

WTF do you fantasize you have to practically contribute to that American constitutional discussion, especially that with at least every other word you post about it, you prove how relevantly ignorant you are of the subject?

Doesn't your own socialist country need your weak-woman emotional hysteria more?
 
Except that wasn't what your
statement was referring to.
Speaking of "disingenuous" :rolleyes:

And if you don't remember what you were talking about (I realize it's been several minutes), which is the only other reason you might have posted what you just die, click the link in the quote.

If you can enlist the mindless pointless to begin the elementary part of translating that, I'd appreciate it.
 
Yes, but every time the gun control point comes up, someone cries 'self defence'. You live in a country that has normalised gun ownership - evidenced by your own stat that a third of Americans live with a gun - and then you're all surprised when some nutbar goes on a shooting spree. Regulation is not the problem - a culture that thinks guns are a 'right' is.

We didn't normalize anything.

Gun ownership is the norm, always has been and will be for the foreseeable future.

Every culture does at their very core, even yours.

Everyone knows the Constitution was written at a time when that made sense. It still doesn't make it a human right.

It still makes sense.

Human rights are subservient to legal ones.

And surely if that was the case, he would have done the thing that killed more people. I love in a country where guns are pretty much illegal. Trust me, we don't have a high incidence of nutjobs poisoning water supplies. That argument might seem logical in theory, but it's not backed up by fact.

Good for you, stay there in your pretend bubble a few hours without utilities away from popping. Funny enough, I bet that bubble is protected by people with guns.
 
If you can enlist the mindless pointless to begin the elementary part of translating that, I'd appreciate it.
Sure, no problem.

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I bet a large percentage of those mowed down were gun owning gun rights freaks.

Mah 2nd Amendment Rahts!!!
 
Full auto is not optimal near sniper distances. One can fire semi-auto rather quickly and waste fewer rounds. Just be glad he hadn't an RPG launcher.

Yes, it's time for the firearms debate. No, it won't settle anything. USA is saturated with personal weapons and they're not going away. 3D printer can churn out unregulated guns and pistols. Newer uncontrollable lethal technologies are coming. We're fucked.
 
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