Boxlicker101
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Thanks for the kudos!
You wrote: "Walker us a dousche." Care to elaborate. That's not very specific.
I'm sort of a douche myself. I like to use my tongue to clean off pussies.
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Thanks for the kudos!
You wrote: "Walker us a dousche." Care to elaborate. That's not very specific.
Approving $3 billion in give-aways and so far only a memorandum of understanding subject to state legislature approval. Ya'll are counting (and giving away) a lot of pre-hatched chickens.
nothing is lost if Foxconn does not live up to its side of the agreement.
I think it's funny how the GOP are such massive hypocrites that during the recovery most jobs were in the lower wage category and bitched and moaned at how bad Obama was. But now a warehouse moves into town offering jobs that pay the same it's the greatest thing since racism.
https://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2017/07/27/us/politics/ap-us-foxconn-plant.html
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/fo...s-casts-a-shadow-on-wisconsin-news-2017-07-27
https://www.bizjournals.com/milwauk...xconns-broken-promises-is-wisconsin-next.html
Keep filling the swamp with your fountains of shit, IL DOUCHE.
The Obama years saw record low workforce participation numbers. The only reason the unemployment rate went so low is that it only counts those actively seeking work. I think the point of this thread is that while Government actions can hurt the economy, it's only by Government inaction, primarily manifested by lower taxes and limited regulation, that the economy remains healthy.
As has been explained over and over, the workforce participation rate is dropping due primarily to the aging population, most notably the fact that the baby boomers are beginning to retire.
The workforce participation rate has been essentially unchanged for the last 2 years, when it ticked up from its 21st century low. It was 62.9 percent in January and 62.8 percent in June (I assume we get July figures tomorrow).
I will keep updating this figure as events warrant, since I'm assuming the conservatives here aren't going to want to talk about this as often as they did the preceding 8 years.
As has been explained over and over, the workforce participation rate is dropping due primarily to the aging population, most notably the fact that the baby boomers are beginning to retire.
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Retired people are not usually considered to be part of the workforce.
Always a possibility, but we will see.
If the plans come to fruition, will you accept that Trump and Walker did a good job?
(And why "IL DOUCHE"? Where did that come from?)
I live in Caledonia, Wisconsin, rather close to where this plant will apparently be built, so I have followed this environmental issue pretty closely. I'd describe myself as a "conservationist" rather than an "environmentalist." "Environmentalists" these days seem to oppose all industrial development, and that's not just silly, it's unfair to the poor and middle class people for whom such development provides employment. As a "conservationist" I have no objection to development, so long as the environmental impact is appropriately mitigated.
This article appeared in our local paper a couple of days ago:
M. Schaaf, Local Foxconn incentives could be backed by state, Racine Journal Times (Aug 3, 2017).
An excerpt:
Vos said federal environmental regulations remain in place and the bill raises requirements for disturbing wetlands. The legislation dictates that 2 acres of wetlands, instead of the normal 1.2 acres, must be created for every one acre of wetland disturbed.
The "Vos" referred to in that paragraph is State Representative Robin Vos, who represents western Racine County, the very area that would suffer any negative environmental impact from the Foxconn plant. As he points out, his constituents remain protected by all Federal environmental regulations, and are actually going to benefit from enhanced wetland remediation. I doubt he would support the project if it involved any serious environmental risk to the people on whose votes he must depend for his job.
Don't be fooled: Most of the opposition to the Foxconn project, even that allegedly based on the environment, is all about not wanting Scott Walker to get a "win." Wisconsin is booming under Republican leadership. Walker has indicated he will probably run for another term and if the current economic trends continue in Wisconsin, he'll be almost impossible to beat. That's the primary reason the Left opposes this deal which will create thousands of jobs for the poor and blue collar people the Democrats claim to represent.
I was under the impression the Foxconn facility would be in the old AMC (AKA Chrysler) plant in Kenosha. That would be thirty or so miles from western Racine County and about ten miles from the town of Caledonia
As has been explained over and over, the workforce participation rate is dropping due primarily to the aging population, most notably the fact that the baby boomers are beginning to retire.
The workforce participation rate has been essentially unchanged for the last 2 years, when it ticked up from its 21st century low. It was 62.9 percent in January and 62.8 percent in June (I assume we get July figures tomorrow).
I will keep updating this figure as events warrant, since I'm assuming the conservatives here aren't going to want to talk about this as often as they did the preceding 8 years.
Retired people are not usually considered to be part of the workforce.
Boom! You destroyed him.
Of course workforce participation rate does not take retirees into account, just like it does not take children under 16 into account. To be part of the equation you must "be actively looking for a job," which, of course, retirees are not. So much for his credibility on this matter.
(Indeed, if you apply to him the same standard that has been applied to me and other conservatives elsewhere on Lit, because he got this wrong, we can now disregard anything more he has to say on any topic at any time. I, however, do not play by such childish rules. He lost here, though.)
Not exactly ringing popular support.
I'm sure this Foxconn deal will blow an even bigger hole in the budget.
And for good reason.
There is a fallacy in this analysis. It is based on the assumption that Foxconn would have come to Wisconsin even without the tax incentives. As I have pointed out twice before, it's not that Wisconsin is giving $3 billion dollars to Foxconn. These are mostly tax credits and waivers on taxes we would not have collected anyway had Foxconn not come. Any economic development and resultant revenue as a result of the Foxconn deal (which includes that from the contractors who build and later service the plant) is revenue that would not have come in without the Foxconn deal, so it begins reaping benefits, including positive revenues, from the first day a shovel hits soil.
It is quite clear that Foxconn would not have come to Wisconsin but for these tax credits. Several other states bid for the plant. Apparently, Ohio offered far more than $3 billion, but Foxconn picked Wisconsin because it is a Right to Work state, and Ohio is not. Right to Work is another improvement in the Wisconsin economic climate since Walker became governor.
As the thread began: Hooray for Scott Walker!
Fitzgerald said it was "striking" that a report issued this week by the Legislative Fiscal Bureau found that state taxpayers would not recoup their investment in Foxconn until 2043. The bureau described that timeline as the best-case scenario, with the Wisconsin plant fully operational and spawning job growth at suppliers and other companies that would come to the area.