Done to death (no, not a snuff thread, tyvm)

The thing with all of those is that you're catering to popular fantasies for the readers you're targeting. Now in reality, how many teenage girls get involved with middle-aged guys? A few, enough that you can write it plausibly and believably and make it hot and it caters to that fantasy that many men have. If you want to read teenage girls fantasies, go to Wattpad and read about vampires and hot young guys and all the other teenage girl tropes and you could list those out and you'd be bored silly but teenage girls really get themselves worked up over those stories and that's a huge market that spends. It's all about your target readership and what you personally enjoy writing writing and what you're intended to do with your story.

Catering is another way of saying done to death. Its a scenario that is vastly popular in their respective categories. When authors who are very score/numbers driven constantly use tropes its to pander to that same readership.

Each one has its kernel of truth in reality(okay, not the incest or most non con) as being fantasies...again tropes for a reason. But greatly exaggerated in erotica and video porn as well.

Also none of my comments are done in judgement(except for the non con comment) just pointing out what I see that I see over and over again.

Oh, one more. Every woman is submissive, every one of them, especially those powerful bitchy professional women they're always submissive.:rolleyes:
 
The I/T toplist is festooned with 'Mommy sits on son's lap.'

Yep. I wrote one of these myself, and I have to confess it was a blast to write. Predictably, it's by far my most popular story.

I've also written stories with more unusual plot lines. I enjoy reading and writing both types of stories.

There's no surprise that in erotica people enjoy the same thing over and over again. It's like sex that way. Sex can be fun even when it's pretty much the same thing day after day.

At the same time, erotica offers the opportunity to explore an almost infinite range of kinks and obsessions. So it's good in that way, too.

As long as a story is handled with at least some skill, I don't mind if it's based on an idea or plotline that's been done over and over. I enjoy seeing a well-worn idea handled in a new way. And with good grammar and spelling.
 
We have formulae for every fetish. For a popular response, we write to those formulae. Or we write against them. But after a bit of writing, we can generally tell what 'works' and what doesn't per category. Sometimes readers will specify exactly what bits of formula they want. Sonny's gotta anally rape Mom! And her little sister! Cater to the extreme and your popularity is assured. Throw in some tragedy; tears grab votes.

For fun, flip the formulae. Instead of Mom blowing Sonny because he busted his hands, put Mom in a coma while Sonny ages from 8 to 18. Mom awakens to find a strapping sexy lad tending her -- and she still looks good. Or instead of Mom sitting in Sonny's lap for a bit of impalement, put him in HER lap; her strap-on slides into him, yada yada. Make it plausible. Without aliens.

Done-to-death equals tried-and-true, right? Merely change the faces for a fresh story.
 
I decided to look it up.

On the all time favorited story list, mom in lap stories are #'s

1, 6,7 and 12 four in the top 12 in number of favorites out of countless lit stories for what is a fairly ridiculous premise among a category full of them.

https://www.literotica.com/stories/favoritesportalv2.php

What is it with boys and their mothers? That's just so weird to me. Mums are for cups of tea and a new knitted jumper every year, not sex.

Is this some strange, cultural thing? I will just never get it. Why waste a hot woman on a gangling eighteen year old boy?
 
What is it with boys and their mothers? That's just so weird to me. Mums are for cups of tea and a new knitted jumper every year, not sex.

Is this some strange, cultural thing? I will just never get it. Why waste a hot woman on a gangling eighteen year old boy?

Its the biggest kink among incest, the biggest kink no one admits they have. I write them for sales or on here a lot of views, but personally don't get it. I have more of a sister fetish myself:eek:
 
Its the biggest kink among incest, the biggest kink no one admits they have. I write them for sales or on here a lot of views, but personally don't get it. I have more of a sister fetish myself:eek:

Totally agree with this. As a real thing, I don't get it. But it's the moneymaker on this Site, hands down, and I do think they're fun stories to write.
 
Totally agree with this. As a real thing, I don't get it. But it's the moneymaker on this Site, hands down, and I do think they're fun stories to write.

They're pretty easy as far as giving the readers their fix. Course I've turned some into train wrecks for fun.

The Return of Molly Minx was a novel length 102k and was pretty twisted and grim at points. I was shocked it actually placed in Nude day a couple years ago.
 
Totally agree with this. As a real thing, I don't get it. But it's the moneymaker on this Site, hands down, and I do think they're fun stories to write.

I guess. It's them penguins ;).

I'm with Lovecraft, I can see myself writing a sibcest thing as a piece of mainstream I&T, but never momcest.

Having said that, my current big long fantasy thing (;)) has a sibcest story arc already, and I've just started a daughter/father chapter, but I don't think it's going to be standard fare.
 
I guess. It's them penguins ;).

I'm with Lovecraft, I can see myself writing a sibcest thing as a piece of mainstream I&T, but never momcest.

Having said that, my current big long fantasy thing (;)) has a sibcest story arc already, and I've just started a daughter/father chapter, but I don't think it's going to be standard fare.

Incest is like any other kink in fiction(and some kinks that you can practice in real life.) you start out writing it and saying I'll do this, but never this...

I started with a long involved bro/sis story that centered around pure dysfunction. Told myself the incest was only the results of the rest of the story and it was very story driven

But I'll never do mother son or dad daughter.

Then after the sib series I said what the hell as I had a decent mother son premise....floodgates opened...

But I won't do dad/daughter. I have two daughters and would never want anyone to think I saw them that way

Then one day...good idea and meh, that the hell, my daughters were already over 18 and no longer living with me....justify justify....

Then it was....I'll never do full family, that's ludicrous and unreal even in that category.

I have a series of e-books called Family Affair...mom/dad son daughter all playing....

But I will not and I man it ever do grandma.....I am digging in

Please don't ever let a bunny show up....please:(
 
Incest is like any other kink in fiction(and some kinks that you can practice in real life.) you start out writing it and saying I'll do this, but never this...

I started with a long involved bro/sis story that centered around pure dysfunction. Told myself the incest was only the results of the rest of the story and it was very story driven

But I'll never do mother son or dad daughter.

Then after the sib series I said what the hell as I had a decent mother son premise....floodgates opened...

But I won't do dad/daughter. I have two daughters and would never want anyone to think I saw them that way

Then one day...good idea and meh, that the hell, my daughters were already over 18 and no longer living with me....justify justify....

Then it was....I'll never do full family, that's ludicrous and unreal even in that category.

I have a series of e-books called Family Affair...mom/dad son daughter all playing....

But I will not and I man it ever do grandma.....I am digging in

Please don't ever let a bunny show up....please:(

Well, ya know... technically, even with Lit's 18 rule, when a kid turns 18, his parent could be 36(ish)... and Grandma might be 54 or so.

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And didn't Elle "The Body" MacPherson just turn fifty-three?

I'm just sayin'. :devil:
 
But I will not and I man it ever do grandma.....I am digging in

Please don't ever let a bunny show up....please:(

Granny's been doing it for years with WWII service men who returned home to find their town consumed by a temporal vortex, and themselves caught in time. The infusion of their essence keeps her young and healthy.

She takes grandson on a cruise, but the boat is disabled off the Bahamas by a mechanical failure. They're stuck there for days and she needs--she really, really needs--an infusion of youth.
 
Besides motherfucking, what's DTD is mom or sis or aunty walking in on sonny jerking off or showering and immediately losing control. I disbelieve in heterosexual gloryholes too, as well as improbable anatomies. How popular are the forehead-smacking tropes?
 
It's the same as people liking comfort food. If mom/son is your thing you can never have enough lap sitting tales or when a mature woman (related or not) sees a young guy naked especially if he's masturbating you know she's gonna lose it. Some things never get old. No matter how many times Moe smacked Curly or poked him in the eyes it was still funny. If there is heaven you just know the boys are still milking it for laughs.
 
The Loving Wives category is normally filled with “done to death” storylines, characters, and scenes. I’d say around 90 percent of all LW stories fall into two categories:

1) A male narrator tells the story of how he encouraged his wife to have sex with another man. She usually agrees immediately. They usually go to a bar, where hubby watches his wife flirt with another guy. There is always dancing involved, and it ALWAYS results in the new guy getting an erection, which he presses up against the wife. (Of course, his cock is always HUGE.) At some point in the night, she will go to the ladies room to remove her panties and hand them to her new boyfriend. Then, they scurry up to a hotel room, where they have crazy-wild monkey sex that results in a dozen screaming orgasms. The end.

2) A righteous, hard-working, man discovers his brain-dead wife is cheating on him. He greets this news with casual indifference, and goes about the task of concocting an elaborate revenge scheme. High-tech spy gadgets usually come into play. A mountain of evidence is gathered. Righteous Hubby exacts his brutal revenge against both his wife and her lover. Then, in the epilogue, we learn that hubby is now married to a much hotter woman who is a completely loyal nymphomaniac. Meanwhile, his ex-wife (if she survived) is living a life of loneliness, forever regretting the choices she made, and hoping against hope that someday hubby will return to her.
 
The Loving Wives category is normally filled with “done to death” storylines, characters, and scenes.

...

2) A righteous, hard-working, man discovers his brain-dead wife is cheating on him. He greets this news with casual indifference, and goes about the task of concocting an elaborate revenge scheme. High-tech spy gadgets usually come into play. A mountain of evidence is gathered. Righteous Hubby exacts his brutal revenge against both his wife and her lover. Then, in the epilogue, we learn that hubby is now married to a much hotter woman who is a completely loyal nymphomaniac. Meanwhile, his ex-wife (if she survived) is living a life of loneliness, forever regretting the choices she made, and hoping against hope that someday hubby will return to her.

^^ THIS ^^

They're often very well written - but they're so damned predictable!
 
Re LW: I found it easier and safer, comment-wise, to electrocute the cheaters or crush them under a rockslide.
 
I'm also surprised by the number of 30+ years old virgins but can't pin that to a specific category. In romance they are a rather common occurance but I've seen them in other categories too.
 
Plots and storylines recur because they're expected and popular, init? The most popular pictures include certain landscape features. The most popular stories include certain textual features. They're not popular because they're old; they're old because they're popular. Audiences will always want stories about motherfuckers.

Word.
 
What is it with boys and their mothers? That's just so weird to me. Mums are for cups of tea and a new knitted jumper every year, not sex.

Is this some strange, cultural thing? I will just never get it . . .

I mentioned the Oedipus complex on another thread. Apparently the ancient Greeks understood it. Freud certainly did.

How about Marty McFly trying to get his own parents to meet in Back to the Future? Hilarious or a bit creepy?

Marty McFly: Whoa. Wait a minute, Doc. Are you trying to tell me that my mother has got the hots for me?
Dr. Emmett Brown: Precisely.
 
I mentioned the Oedipus complex on another thread. Apparently the ancient Greeks understood it. Freud certainly did.

How about Marty McFly trying to get his own parents to meet in Back to the Future? Hilarious or a bit creepy?

Marty McFly: Whoa. Wait a minute, Doc. Are you trying to tell me that my mother has got the hots for me?
Dr. Emmett Brown: Precisely.

For years, I've always been a little surprised that I haven't found a legit porn video where Marty hooks up with his mom. Of course in order for him to be born, she has to get pregnant, so maybe Marty is his own dad. Or maybe he was just a jerk to her in order to make her rebound guy the real dad.

Hmmm... Plot bunny anyone? Is there a three-way involved?
 
I thought someone might have written a Back to the Future parody here but I haven't found one yet. Of course Marty would have to be stuck in the past long enough for everyone to turn eighteen.

I forgot, how old was Marty anyway? Wasn't he a high school senior?
 
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