Let's hear it for Freedom of Speech!!!

So typical of the left to label themselves "Antifa" (anti-fascist) when in fact, they are the real fascists. So typical as well are the stupid hordes of naive fools who buy into their totalitarianism, totally unaware these Fascists are the militant enforcement arm of the Democrat Party.

Rightguide said:

So typical of the left to label themselves "Antifa" (anti-fascist) when in fact, they are the real fascists. So typical as well are the stupid hordes of naive fools who buy into their totalitarianism, totally unaware these Fascists are the militant enforcement arm of the Democrat Party.

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That's absolutely true. That was one of the ways Hitler rose to power - gangs of hoodlums who stifled dissent through violence and threats of violence. Assaulting anybody who dared disagree with them. Does that sound familiar?

Another way was scapegoating specific groups, such as the left is doing with white men.

Rightguide said:

So typical of the left to label themselves "Antifa" (anti-fascist) when in fact, they are the real fascists. So typical as well are the stupid hordes of naive fools who buy into their totalitarianism, totally unaware these Fascists are the militant enforcement arm of the Democrat Party.

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Show me where anyone in the US has labeled themselves "antifa." Every reference I've seen has been on right-wing sites.

phrodeau said:

Show me where anyone in the US has labeled themselves "antifa." Every reference I've seen has been on right-wing sites.

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Here's a group: https://nycantifa.wordpress.com/

Here's another: https://fellowshipoftheminds.com/2017/04/03/fake-news-duct-tape-antifa/

Here's another: http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2017/04/berkeley-rally-alt-right-antifa-punch Now, tell me Mother jones is a right wing site.

Here's another: https://illinoisfamily.org/media/antifa-media-reluctant-expose/

I expect I could find many more.

Boxlicker101 said:

Here's a group: https://nycantifa.wordpress.com/

Here's another: https://fellowshipoftheminds.com/2017/04/03/fake-news-duct-tape-antifa/

I expect I could find many more.

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OK, you get one and a half, since the second link is a right-wing site.

phrodeau said:

OK, you get one and a half, since the second link is a right-wing site.

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Well, if break the word "anyone" down, it has two parts - Any" and "One." So, he's done half more than what you asked.

Chris_Michael said:

Well, if break the word "anyone" down, it has two parts - Any" and "One." So, he's done half more than what you asked.

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You can find the references easily enough, especially in sites such as Raw Story. It's so simple, although time-consuming, I'm not going to bother anymore.

http://www.rawstory.com/2017/02/whi...e-nyc-bar-over-anti-fascist-sticker-on-phone/

Let's show what NYC free speech is for Trump's May 4 visit.

The Intrepid will be only one stop. Stay tuned. Let's see how much he likes it. In fact, practice at the Puck building, Jared and Ivanka's NYC residence.

Boxlicker101 said:

You can find the references easily enough, especially in sites such as Raw Story. It's so simple, although time-consuming, I'm not going to bother anymore.

http://www.rawstory.com/2017/02/whi...e-nyc-bar-over-anti-fascist-sticker-on-phone/

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Well, do you really think the left wing media is going to cover Antifa? It's not going to happen.

It's not worth it. Even if you were able to convince somebody that Antifa is a thing, then the goal posts would suddenly move. "Well, those Neo-Nazis deserve to get hit." That's what they'd say. Then, you'd get a Bible reference - "Turn the other cheek like you preach!" Because if you don't agree with them, you're a Christian conservative Neo-Nazi.

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The Intrepid will be only one stop. Stay tuned. Let's see how much he likes it. In fact, practice at the Puck building, Jared and Ivanka's NYC residence.

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Yes, because we all know you stopped short of saying that you were going to use violence and destruction of property... but there's a heavy implication that's what you mean.

What you mean to say is, "Let's show them what censorship is really like." Because that's what you're doing.

Chris_Michael said:

Well, do you really think the left wing media is going to cover Antifa? It's not going to happen.

It's not worth it. Even if you were able to convince somebody that Antifa is a thing, then the goal posts would suddenly move. "Well, those Neo-Nazis deserve to get hit." That's what they'd say. Then, you'd get a Bible reference - "Turn the other cheek like you preach!" Because if you don't agree with them, you're a Christian conservative Neo-Nazi.



Yes, because we all know you stopped short of saying that you were going to use violence and destruction of property... but there's a heavy implication that's what you mean.

What you mean to say is, "Let's show them what censorship is really like." Because that's what you're doing.

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The left wing whack jobs consider anybody who disagrees with them to be Nazis or Commies or any number of bad things. You know how nuts they are.

First of all, in order for Ann Coulter to have been kicked off campus she would have had to schedule with the campus in advance...............which she did not

Secodnly, even before seeing if there was a venue , Coulter would have had to check with the Uni to see if they even wanted her............. which she did not do

Third, Berkely only found out Ann wanted to appear after she announced she was appearing

4th.. Coulter only gave the uni the minimum 30 days after she finally contacted them to find her a space, and the only space that was free the police themselves said would not be large enough or secure enough for her

there is more, but run out of time

this is typical Coulter... she fucks up, plays the victim and blames someone else for it

meanwhile, dude who leaked classified information wants to jail reporters for publishing leaked information: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...ail-journalists-memo-fbi-russia-a7739796.html

I take it the folk here who've been ferociously defending Freeze Peach are going to be all over this one

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First of all, in order for Ann Coulter to have been kicked off campus she would have had to schedule with the campus in advance...............which she did not

Secodnly, even before seeing if there was a venue , Coulter would have had to check with the Uni to see if they even wanted her............. which she did not do

Third, Berkely only found out Ann wanted to appear after she announced she was appearing

4th.. Coulter only gave the uni the minimum 30 days after she finally contacted them to find her a space, and the only space that was free the police themselves said would not be large enough or secure enough for her

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this is typical Coulter... she fucks up, plays the victim and blames someone else for it

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Apparently, you didn't read the link in the OP, because it was not only about Ann Coulter but was also about others.

AC was not kicked off the campus because she was not allowed to enter in the first pace.

The uni. did not invite anybody. AC was invited by a campus group similar to the Young Republicans. She should not need anybody's permission to speak, nr should the inviting group need any permission. She was scheduled to speak, but her speech was cancelled because of violence and threats of violence.

Sic semper tyrannis!

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/michael-rowe/sorry-ann-coulter-canadas_b_513865.html

Coulter had received a cordial letter from Francois Houle, the vice-president academic and provost of the University of Ottawa welcoming her to the nation’s capital and suggesting that she review what constitutes hate speech under the law. Houle pointed out that, for instance, “promoting hatred against any identifiable group would not only be considered inappropriate, but could in fact lead to criminal charges” under the Criminal Code of Canada, specifically Sections 318 and 319.

Coulter told newsmax.com that: “The Provost of the u. of Ottawa is threatening to criminally prosecute me for my speech there on Monday—before I’ve even set foot in the country!”

Coulter neglected to add that the Provost had no authority to “criminally prosecute” her, or that the letter had been intended to advise her, for her own sake, of what the Canada’s hate speech laws say, and where she might be vulnerable given her penchant for gay-baiting and Muslim-baiting.

According to Coulter, a significant part of the blame for the protest—during which there were no arrests, no violence, and no reported threats of violence—belonged to Francois Houle (whom she referred to in the media as “A-Houle”) for creating a “climate of hate” on campus with his letter—a private letter to her that was mysteriously leaked to Coulter-friendly venues like the National Post, Canada’s most conservative national newspaper and to newsmax.com, the website that bills itself, somewhat wordily, as “the leading independent online news site with a conservative perspective.”

While the middle-aged wring their hands about the anti-Coulter protests, there’s a lesson to be learned from the youth. The students at the University of Ottawa who put their boots to the ground in protest clearly and forcefully expressed their view that Coulter’s racism, her homophobia, or her penchant for glib sound bites about how torture should be a televised spectator sport had no place on an enlightened, multicultural Canadian college campus in 2010—at least not on theirs, if anywhere in a civilized society. It’s a poignant reminder to anyone older than 40 that their demographic has historically marinated in the status quo, leaving the young to fight and die in their wars, effect social change, and stand up to the vituperative social toxicity represented by Coulter and her kind. Sic semper.

The enduring irony of Coulter being driven off like a vampire bat in some Hammer horror film by 200 Canadian kids exercising not only their free speech, their right to lawful protest, but their right to assembly, is rich indeed. So are her subsequent complaints about being “suppressed.” Like the liberal “whining” she endlessly derides, her own whining this week about how she was treated by the scary Canadian students sounded tinny and false. It’s hard to believe it doesn’t sound just as false to her. Apparently free speech, at least in this case, was only ever intended to apply to Ann Coulter.

The UN Has Stepped In To Issue A Severe Warning To GOP After Their Plans To Strip Americans Of Freedoms Is Exposed

If you thought your rights are protected in the USA, think again. There are lawmakers who are working hard to under-handedly take them away. Sixteen states have proposed bills that would criminalize peaceful protests. This is a worrying trend that may result in fatal blows to our rights and freedom to peacefully protest, assemble, and express our opinions and voices.

It is so concerning, that even the United Nations has weighed in on the trend. In an unprecedented move, representatives from the UN have sent a letter to the US government offering a strong condemnation for proposed legislation in sixteen states that is meant to limit peaceful protest.

The letter, penned by David Kaye, Special Rapporteur on the promotion and protection of the right to freedom of opinion and expression, and Maina Kiai, Special Rapporteur on the rights to freedom of peaceful assembly and of association, claims that if passed, these bills would be “incompatible with US obligations under international human rights law.”

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So WHO is pushing these bills? Republicans you say? What dicks they are!

Interesting that the article doesn't actually quote a single word from any of these supposedly awful bills.

Maybe because they don't actually forbid non-violent protests, but just stop masked thugs from committing violence or arson (as we've been seeing, and then hiding in the crowd?

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Interesting that the article doesn't actually quote a single word from any of these supposedly awful bills.

Maybe because they don't actually forbid non-violent protests, but just stop masked thugs from committing violence or arson (as we've been seeing, and then hiding in the crowd?

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Why do you need a bill for that? Don't the police already have the powers to arrest arsonists and those who commit violence? If a protest turns violent don't you folk have a riot act that you can read out?

JackLuis said:

The UN Has Stepped In To Issue A Severe Warning To GOP After Their Plans To Strip Americans Of Freedoms Is Exposed



So WHO is pushing these bills? Republicans you say? What dicks they are!

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There was a bill in North Dakota's Congress that would have removed criminal penalties from drivers who hit protestors on roadways. It didn't pass, and probably never had much of a chance.

It's just a bully showing us his fist, to make it clear that he can beat us up if he decides to do so.

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The UN Has Stepped In To Issue A Severe Warning To GOP After Their Plans To Strip Americans Of Freedoms Is Exposed

The UN Has Stepped In To Issue A Severe Warning To GOP After Their Plans To Strip Americans Of Freedoms Is Exposed



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If you thought your rights are protected in the USA, think again. There are lawmakers who are working hard to under-handedly take them away. Sixteen states have proposed bills that would criminalize peaceful protests. This is a worrying trend that may result in fatal blows to our rights and freedom to peacefully protest, assemble, and express our opinions and voices.

It is so concerning, that even the United Nations has weighed in on the trend. In an unprecedented move, representatives from the UN have sent a letter to the US government offering a strong condemnation for proposed legislation in sixteen states that is meant to limit peaceful protest.

The letter, penned by David Kaye, Special Rapporteur on the promotion and protection of the right to freedom of opinion and expression, and Maina Kiai, Special Rapporteur on the rights to freedom of peaceful assembly and of association, claims that if passed, these bills would be “incompatible with US obligations under international human rights law.”
So WHO is pushing these bills? Republicans you say? What dicks they are!



So WHO is pushing these bills? Republicans you say? What dicks they are!

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First, I don't believe there are actually 16 bills in state legislatures that would outlaw peaceful demonstrations UNLESS the bills are intended to outlaw "hate speech." Hate speech, of course, is whatever Liberals define as such. Canada and the UK have both outlawed "hate speech" but the US hasn't and probably won't. Fascists who call themselves Progressives might try, but I don't believe they will succeed in changing the First Amendment in that way.

Second, how do you know the party affiliation of the supporters of the bills? There is nothing in the link about it.

Boxlicker101 said:

This is what we get at a major university that used to be noted for things such as Freedom of Expression: https://www.yahoo.com/news/aclu-defends-coulter-berkeley-speech-cancellation-134612157.html

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Ann Coulter has a right to freedom of expression and freedom of speech - but don't the liberals have a right to voice their opinion as well? So Coulter gets to do it, but the liberals don't? Maybe in your flat world, maybe you'd like it that way, but that's not the way it works around here. Sorry pal, but it works both ways.

AnAmericanDarling said:

Ann Coulter has a right to freedom of expression and freedom of speech - but don't the liberals have a right to voice their opinion as well? So Coulter gets to do it, but the liberals don't? Maybe in your flat world, maybe you'd like it that way, but that's not the way it works around here. Sorry pal, but it works both ways.

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To far too many people, many of them so-called conservatives, freedom of expression means 'freedom from criticism or consequences', and grossly (and I think, willfully) misunderstand that the 1st Amendment only applies to action taken by the government.

Granted, these are also the same types that use phrases like 'liberal fascists' without a whiff of irony or self-awareness.

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Ann Coulter has a right to freedom of expression and freedom of speech - but don't the liberals have a right to voice their opinion as well? So Coulter gets to do it, but the liberals don't? Maybe in your flat world, maybe you'd like it that way, but that's not the way it works around here. Sorry pal, but it works both ways.

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Liberals have a right to freedom of expression, but not when they express themselves through assaults and arson and looting, such as was done or threatened in Berkeley. They also don't have a right to stifle their opponents through drowning them out with loudspeakers and other means.

Lustful_Intentions said:

To far too many people, many of them so-called conservatives, freedom of expression means 'freedom from criticism or consequences',

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Consequences including violence and vandalism are illegal and totally covered under 1A.

Lustful_Intentions said:

and grossly (and I think, willfully) misunderstand that the 1st Amendment only applies to action taken by the government.

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That doesn't justify or validate the Justice Democrats violence.

Lustful_Intentions said:

Granted, these are also the same types that use phrases like 'liberal fascists' without a whiff of irony or self-awareness.

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Please...explain the irony/self awareness people who think they shouldn't be violently assaulted for expressing an opinion that's not Democrat approved calling the violent Democrats 'liberal fascist'.

In detail.....with specifics.

AnAmericanDarling said:

Ann Coulter has a right to freedom of expression and freedom of speech - but don't the liberals have a right to voice their opinion as well? So Coulter gets to do it, but the liberals don't?

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Sure liberals get to...what they don't get to do is become violent and destructive in an attempt to prevent her free speech.

AnAmericanDarling said:

Maybe in your flat world, maybe you'd like it that way, but that's not the way it works around here. Sorry pal, but it works both ways.

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So does the violence.

Look at all that equality....shit's beautiful

Chris_Michael said:

Because in America, our political ideologies only come in two flavors - donkey shit and elephant shit.

We're the country that has to choose red or blue because anything else gets too complicated.

"I dunno... I mean, Islam is kind of scary if you think about it..." RACIST MISOGYNIST XENOPHOBIC BIGOT

"Ya know, uhm abortion seems reasonable in some cases." BABY KILLER LIBTARD WITH NO MORALS AND YOU'RE GOING TO BURN IN HELL FOREVER

"Okay well I guess I just have a different opinion..."

OMG DONT VOTE!!!

America, the greatest country on earth... How the fuck do people from other countries let us get away with saying that horseshit? If I were from another country, I would hate America because it's so fucking stupid.

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Welcome to the rest of the world