Old male friend, bad. Young male friend, good.

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It still astounds me that paying for sex is illegal in America.

Tell me about it. I'd love to use one of these girls who need money for bills but I could be set up for a sting or a robbery.
 
The therapist is right, you know. Stick with therapy, get your shit in order and buy yourself a Fleshlight and/or other toys to spice up masturbation while you do that. Otherwise, the only non-pro pussy you're likely to find is going to be attached to a woman who's as unstable as you are right now; why would you want to create more drama and angst in your life, or that of a woman?

If you refuse to heed that advice, hire a good escort and use protection for everything if you two decide to engage in sexual activity after you've paid her for the non-sexual time she spends with you. I'm not a huge fan of this option, but it's certainly preferable to getting involved with an unsuspecting or batshit crazy woman.

The therapist is right but I'm all kinds of crazy, meds or not. Oh trust me, I know. But still, I am 25. By this time in life, most people have fucked. And since women want experienced lovers, it's getting harder for me.

The escort advice sounds great. The only problem is, where do I find a good escort? How would I go about doing that?

I need a real pussy. The Fleshlight days are over.
 
Haha It was a tactic at one point. I always say that my future wife is going to be one crazy bitch. Who the hell would marry me?!? Haha!

I was TOTALLY joking, of course.:cool:

SweetErika is right, you definitely need to get your own head in order before you attempt a relationship, because:
1 - You will attract what you are.
2 - You will fuck up every relationship until you do.
3 - You deserve better for yourself.
4 - Any prospective mate deserves better (than a fucked up person).
5 - True happiness comes from within. Until you achieve that, all you are doing is masking your pain with sex or a fucked up relationship.
6 - Refer to #3.

Chris, I've seen most of your threads, and they all have the same theme, that is your self confidence, self image, and the inability to move beyond those things. You really do have to live your life FOR YOURSELF, or it has no value and you will remain, single, lonely, and depressed.

Please do not take this post as a criticism, as that is not how it is intended. :cool:
 
I was TOTALLY joking, of course.:cool:

SweetErika is right, you definitely need to get your own head in order before you attempt a relationship, because:
1 - You will attract what you are.
2 - You will fuck up every relationship until you do.
3 - You deserve better for yourself.
4 - Any prospective mate deserves better (than a fucked up person).
5 - True happiness comes from within. Until you achieve that, all you are doing is masking your pain with sex or a fucked up relationship.
6 - Refer to #3.

Chris, I've seen most of your threads, and they all have the same theme, that is your self confidence, self image, and the inability to move beyond those things. You really do have to live your life FOR YOURSELF, or it has no value and you will remain, single, lonely, and depressed.

Please do not take this post as a criticism, as that is not how it is intended. :cool:

Nah, I don't see it as a criticism. I appreciate the help.

You're right, the theme is always the same. And it's always in the same place... Here. Out of the entire internet, I cannot find a better place to ask (because trust me, I'd go).

I wish I could live life like that, but unfortunately I can't. Each of these questions are individual pieces that make up my picture. But it's all scattered like a puzzle at this point. What I do know is how I'm feeling at the moment, and sex is what I need. I *can* suppress that with masturbation but it drives me deeper into depression. I will admit that I've had some potential sexual encounters and after masturbating was like "WTF am I thinking?" and bailed. It feels bad though and those things build up. Sucks.
 
The therapist is right but I'm all kinds of crazy, meds or not. Oh trust me, I know. But still, I am 25. By this time in life, most people have fucked. And since women want experienced lovers, it's getting harder for me.

The escort advice sounds great. The only problem is, where do I find a good escort? How would I go about doing that?

I need a real pussy. The Fleshlight days are over.

Then again, you haven't done much to help yourself have sex, have you? Most women who are in their mid-20s on up are typically looking for longer-term relationships, or at least a stable FB/FWB. You don't qualify on either count, and how would you even meet somewhat sane women for anything, considering you spend all of your time working and gaming? What do you have to offer a non-pro who's looking for sex or dating?

"Experienced lover" isn't a qualification for most women. Knowledge, compassion, selflessness, stability, sanity, confidence, and even good hygiene, are all much higher on the lists of most ladies. Experience in itself doesn't make a good lover, and we know that, because many of us have been with people who have lots of experience and are still lousy lovers and/or not fun to spend any time with. Hell, one of my best experiences was with a guy who was a virgin. I couldn't believe I was his first because he was gorgeous, attentive, confident and adventurous. So, I'm going to call bullshit on that excuse, Christopher. We both know that you don't have to disclose your experience level (or lack thereof), and you could also find a woman who's inexperienced herself. Don't worry about coming up with new excuses, either; you're well aware that this crew is sharp and will debunk them almost as fast as you can get them out. DO worry about taking responsibility for what you haven't done thus far, and what you desperately need to do from here on out.

Don't concern yourself with what most people do, worry about what YOU are doing to better yourself and make yourself attractive to potential partners. Consistently taking healthy steps and making good choices is critical for you to make social and sexual connections. Do you have to look like a model or throw around cash? Nope, but you do need to take pride in yourself, work toward your goals and treat people really well. You definitely need to address your mental (and other) health issues and practice reciprocity in any relationships you form or have. Those are things you'd do well to address in therapy; perhaps you and your therapist could focus on helping you become the best you possible so you can get sex with a healthy woman without paying for it. If a goal like getting pussy motivates you to do the work, then that's great, and your therapist should be able to help you break down that larger goal in to manageable steps you can take daily.

As for escorts, there's at least one large site with reviews of escorts. I'm sure you can find it yourself, if you're so inclined.

Yes, I know my posts to you are going to come across a little harsher than my usual tone. I'm risking scratching you up a bit in hopes that a blunter approach will work, since it's obvious the fluffier ones don't really get through to you. Maybe you've been coddled a little too much in your 25 years and need a lot more honesty in your life. You certainly need to get honest with yourself and stop throwing out excuses and roadblocks at every turn. :rose:
 
I didn't even know that was an excuse! It was.... Just... Something I said! I don't even see how that could be interpreted as an excuse.

Anyway, I really meant this question to be taken at face value. It should be read "How can a guy in my situation get pussy in spite all the roadblocks?" I never meant to make this about fixing my life. I'm insane and we all know it. That's why I said originally that I'm past the point of healthy relationships with women. But still, I have hormones. I need sex.
 
You're right, the theme is always the same. And it's always in the same place... Here. Out of the entire internet, I cannot find a better place to ask (because trust me, I'd go).
See, most of us know this is kind of an odd place to get really great advice, but we're damn fortunate to have a place where we can ask all sorts of questions, learn so much and meet so many incredible people. I feel super fortunate to have found a community of smart, caring people who know a lot about a lot and are willing to share and help me whenever they can.

It's all in how you frame it mentally.

I wish I could live life like that, but unfortunately I can't. Each of these questions are individual pieces that make up my picture. But it's all scattered like a puzzle at this point. What I do know is how I'm feeling at the moment, and sex is what I need. I *can* suppress that with masturbation but it drives me deeper into depression. I will admit that I've had some potential sexual encounters and after masturbating was like "WTF am I thinking?" and bailed. It feels bad though and those things build up. Sucks.
No, you CHOOSE not to. Nearly everything is a choice, you are not a victim of your circumstances, and you need to get that. [*I* need to work on not seeing EVERYTHING as a choice, because I blame myself and feel guilty for a lot of stuff I shouldn't, but I have a very internal power/control orientation.]

Discuss it in therapy, but I suspect you feel like masturbation/no sex makes you feel depressed because you frame it that way. A healthier way to view it would be something like, 'I'm choosing to take care of my own sexual needs via masturbation because I know I'm not in a position to expose a woman to my issues. I'm working hard on being healthier and I know the harder I work, the faster I WILL be in a position to meet women and have sex.' There's only stuff to feel great about with that kind of mindset. Hell, even if you're not working on anything, you can still feel good about not exposing women to your baggage!
 
I just do not understand.

There are people all up and down this board who claim they have made mistakes, people who have life-long commitments and children with people they loathe. There are sexless marriages, failed marriages, STDs, and MANY other crazy situations yet *I* have baggage? No, I don't feel good for exposing women to my baggage. I feel pretty damn good to not have to carry anyone else's.

I offer a hell of a lot more than what you say. I'm a 25-year-old who was thrown to the wolves of being a professional in a profit-driven world. I was weak but my exposure has hardened my skin and my head is becoming more cool. I have NEVER treated women as sexual objects and I have ALWAYS been honest (to an EXTREME fault). I may not have much, but I do have my dignity. And I'm pretty goddamn sure most women on this site would love to have a guy like me.

I'm pretty fucking awesome, actually.

*Snaps fingers* Thank you very much!
 
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Oh this bit made me laugh out loud. You're a funny little shit when you want to be. :D

Haha! Here's the shit that pisses me off... She got me all hyped when I really should be sleeping because I have to be at work in a couple of hours. ;)
 
You know what? One day, I hope my profile sticks around after things get better for me and I can give some solid advice to people in my situation. Because I'm gonna say "Take a stroll down my posting history. Yep, I was you." And then I'm going to put an avatar back up with a signature.
 
I'll give you a hot tip, don't go with your dick, your balls or your arse hole. Apparently we need to spell that out around here. :)

I have a nice pair of titties I can tease everybody with. :)
 
You know what? One day, I hope my profile sticks around after things get better for me and I can give some solid advice to people in my situation. Because I'm gonna say "Take a stroll down my posting history. Yep, I was you." And then I'm going to put an avatar back up with a signature.

How would taking a stroll down your posting history help the person? I see people trying to help you (because you ask for help, don't forget that part) and you just get all pissy when it's about working on yourself.

What makes you different from the rest of the world? We all work on ourselves, at least most people do. Why is that? Because most folks want to develop socially, intellectually and emotionally. Just so you know, you are NOT insane.

You say you were thrown to the wolves at 25 years old. What the heck does that mean? Shouldn't one be able to survive by 25, with at least enough skill to know how to advance, which we usually do in small steps.

What are you afraid of, Christopher?
 
You need to go travelling. Get out of 'Murica for a little while. Will do you a world of good in so many ways.
 
Christopher, have you ever had a pet? Would you consider adopting one? I know you're away from your home for long work shifts so a dog might be a bit tricky but maybe a cat (or two, they like company usually) might be nice for you. Animals can add so very much to our lives. Just a thought.
 
Christopher, have you ever had a pet? Would you consider adopting one? I know you're away from your home for long work shifts so a dog might be a bit tricky but maybe a cat (or two, they like company usually) might be nice for you. Animals can add so very much to our lives. Just a thought.

I have a Schipperke. They are beautiful dogs with *very* quirky personalities. The name literally means "Little Skippers" because they were boat dogs. They have a very unique demeanor and they're funny. It's unlike anything I've ever seen.

My dog is named Shelby and she's cray-cray.
 
How would taking a stroll down your posting history help the person? I see people trying to help you (because you ask for help, don't forget that part) and you just get all pissy when it's about working on yourself.

What makes you different from the rest of the world? We all work on ourselves, at least most people do. Why is that? Because most folks want to develop socially, intellectually and emotionally. Just so you know, you are NOT insane.

You say you were thrown to the wolves at 25 years old. What the heck does that mean? Shouldn't one be able to survive by 25, with at least enough skill to know how to advance, which we usually do in small steps.

What are you afraid of, Christopher?


You know what, Cathleen? There will be young men going through what I'm going through. What I meant wasn't literally that people would read through my entire history. The point was that I could relate. There are plenty of socially awkward men out there. So maybe I could help them when I overcome my owm obstacles.

I am just trying to see a positive side. Whether it's reality or not... Just give it to me.
 
You need to go travelling. Get out of 'Murica for a little while. Will do you a world of good in so many ways.

You know, I think you're right. Where should I go? I'm thinking Japan. You wanna go with me? ;)
 
Holy shit I just got a girl's phone number at work. She's hot too. :)
 
So America is keeping this guy from getting laid? Interesting. Yes, get out of the US.

Seriously, I'm sorry if I offended you with the "old crazy cat lady" comment. It was not intentional. In fact, I LOVE girls who wear cat eats and tails. I love catwoman in TDKR.

I think you took it personal last time. I'm sincerely sorry. :(
 
How would taking a stroll down your posting history help the person? I see people trying to help you (because you ask for help, don't forget that part) and you just get all pissy when it's about working on yourself.

What makes you different from the rest of the world? We all work on ourselves, at least most people do. Why is that? Because most folks want to develop socially, intellectually and emotionally. Just so you know, you are NOT insane.

You say you were thrown to the wolves at 25 years old. What the heck does that mean? Shouldn't one be able to survive by 25, with at least enough skill to know how to advance, which we usually do in small steps.

What are you afraid of, Christopher?

Times have changed. I started living on my own when I was 17, at 25 I had 3 kids, 4 years of military under my belt, and had completed a union apprenticeship.
 
Seriously, I'm sorry if I offended you with the "old crazy cat lady" comment. It was not intentional. In fact, I LOVE girls who wear cat eats and tails. I love catwoman in TDKR.

I think you took it personal last time. I'm sincerely sorry. :(

Man I was drunk when I wrote this. I'm not apologetic about that. You're straight up a bitch.
 
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