Squirting study

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REF: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25545022


Just discovered this thread.

Somebody posted the "study " on my TRY THIS thread and I have been doing some reading. At least THIS study used LIVE women. The last "definitive study" on G-SPOTS and SQUIRTING was done on 13 CADAVERS and as you guys may have guessed already, the findings were anything but spectacular. In fact it was all rather DEAD.

I have to go back and read the first two pages but a few posts popped out at me. One theme was recurring too.

#1. a study of 5 (or was it 7?) women does NOT make a study. The stimulation in the research was described as " PROVOKING " areas of the vagina. I would be interested in a better description of PROVOKE. What was the time line? The porn queens who SQUIRT like a fire truck report being "fluffed" (stimulated - NOT provoked ) for up to 8 HOURS before the final take.

What assurance did the researchers have that these test subjects had properly functioning kidneys, bladders and PC muscles? There was no indication that the same response wouldn't come from a good sale at Walmart.

At least one and probably more posts stated, " MY WIFE squirts and it NEVER tatstes/ smells of pee."

THAT to me is the best indicator. I don't care how many lab rats are peeing around the room. If you are DOWN THERE and "provoking" her properly and she ejaculates/gushes/ squirts and the fluid is clear or slightly milky and doesn't LOOK SMELL OR TASTE anything like urine then something else is happening.

From my limited research I would also suggest that there are MANY responses a woman can have from being stimulated or provoked. Some women may lose bladder control. Anybody who has stimulated the GSPOT and get a completely different fluid ... well let's just say these researchers, like a few others in the past, need to dump the lab coats, find a real horny woman and follow some basics discussed at length on my TRY THIS and other similar threads. I still think WE are way ahead of these guys and they have discovered and disclosed .... nothing of any interest.

I also think they have reinforced a notion that has probably got some women beaten up and even killed. In some areas of the world if a woman PEEES on her husband it is a huge insult and she's liable to find herself dead or worse.

These guys may think they are creating BREAKTHROUGHS in sex research but their "definitive" disclosure may get a LOT of women hurt.

As one learned gentleman has already stated: BAD SCIENCE ANNOYS ME.

despite my concerns for the research that was originally presented regarding how research subjects were admitted to the study and that there was no control group, you can consider 7 subjects a representative sample if you're suggesting that only a very small percentage of the population would be included in the group. It is also a little funny that we would discount a group of 7 because it is too small but find truth in one man's statement about his wife. lol.. this is like my friends who use personal anecdotes as medical advice..
"you can safely give that to your baby because I did"
lol.. no no no no no no no no no.. that's not science.

This thread has been a good read though. I think that there have been studies referenced that did not use dead bodies. If you search eastern medicine, you'll actually find a little more that isn't published in our journals..
it's been thought provoking

If someone thinks they can make a corpse orgasm, they are stupid.
If someone thinks, that no information can be gained from taking corpses apart, they belong mentally in the dark ages.

If an organ is claimed to exist, there is little to do, but to look for it.
Corpses normally have very few objections against being cut in slices, contrary to the living.


Supposing an organ or a connection believed to be there, can't be found? No matter how hard you look? Should it then just be insisted to exist, contrary to the observations?

"The result does not suit me" is a very poor scientific argument ( but great in the dark ages. Murder in some creative fashion was normally the next argument )

I really think I need someone to come and provoke me now. Actually, if they want to continuously provoke me, that's okay, too. Towels will be provided.

There's been so much flying around about this the last few days, I'm kind of in the zone of "so what?' now. If it is, it is, if not, then great. It feels good. He doesn't seem to be bothered by it. It occasionally results in an extra towel in the wash when I do the towels. Meh. No big deal.

Of course, I don't need to have sex in a kiddie pool because of it, I'm not that prolific. But even if I were, and even if it was pee...I'm thinking if the sex is so good it makes me lose all control of my bodily functions, hell, I can live with that!

Aphroditiac said:

I really think I need someone to come and provoke me now. Actually, if they want to continuously provoke me, that's okay, too. Towels will be provided.
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The phrase: "Are you trying to provoke me?" will never be the same again!



Apart from that.
Yes! If everybody involved are having fun, it is utterly unimportant what it is on that level.

In our quest for knowledge, it is worth looking into.

Cumference said:

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If an organ is claimed to exist, there is little to do, but to look for it.
Corpses normally have very few objections against being cut in slices, contrary to the living.


Supposing an organ or a connection believed to be there, can't be found? No matter how hard you look? Should it then just be insisted to exist, contrary to the observations?

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well, I suppose the organ they are looking for would be the g-spot, correct? Now I know there is still some debate about whether or not it exists. I think the error is in looking for an "organ" as a separate entity. Isn't the majority of the clitoris and mass of nerves inside the body? (the exterior bit of the clitoris being the tip of the iceburg, if you will - what you see is only a small portion of the organ). Wouldn't what we refer to as the g-spot be simply the "inside" portion of the clitoris (or the nerves that travel to the clitoris)? So, in other words, stimulating the g-spot is stimulating the clitoris (or those nerves) from an anterior approach.

Clearly they are finding PSA, which is normally found in vaginal secretions. The question is, does urine normally contain it too or is it limited to our lubrication?

A bunch of scientists (read: men) were upset that women can squirt them in the eye when they come too and decided to slander/libel G-Spots with a "study" of 7 women.

When was the last time you had a group of women agree on anything?

And haven't we learned from the "hysteria cure" of forced orgasms in a clinical setting isn't the same as a full on at home comfortable experience?

OH ... and since the G-Spot which is actually the Urethral Sponge, gets puffy and pushes clear fluid into the bladder -- when aroused and stroked -- of course it is going to have a little urea in the final ejaculate.

Idiots.
As if billions of women who have reported having G-Spot Orgasms and saying the sensation ISN'T like they're about to pee - wasn't enough. Oh right, they were just women.

Cumference said:

If someone thinks they can make a corpse orgasm, they are stupid.
If someone thinks, that no information can be gained from taking corpses apart, they belong mentally in the dark ages.

If an organ is claimed to exist, there is little to do, but to look for it.
Corpses normally have very few objections against being cut in slices, contrary to the living.

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That was ONE study. Another study out of the UK questioned TWINS and THAT was considered definitive too. The study tried to tie G-Gasms reported from one twin to the other twin. The logic sounded good except for one thing which I pointed out (their response was only to demand my MEDICAL CREDENTIALS) was that if NEITHER TWIN had ever discovered the G-Spot or been with a lover who showed them how it worked then where is the validity of the comparison. I expect next they will try the same thing with TRIPLETS. Ya. That'll be proof enough that we're all full of it.

In our quest for knowledge, it is worth looking into.

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Just know what is expected and don't be surprised or look/act disgusted when it happens and you look like you spent the night on a shrimp boat in the Gulf during the Hurricane Katrina rampage!

The phrase: "Are you trying to provoke me?" will never be the same again!

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If I'm with a lover and I'm building an Excellent O with a good tongue lashing and timing it so I can have the G-SPOT firing at the exact same seconds (minutes) the clit is singing the National Anthem then "PROVOKE" is not a word I would describe it as ... and to date none of my lovers have either.

Clearly they are finding PSA, which is normally found in vaginal secretions. The question is, does urine normally contain it too or is it limited to our lubrication?

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I believe there are SEVERAL types of fluid build-up during various kinds of arousal. The walls of the vagina lubricate for and during sex - unless it is lousy sex or painful and she will then dry out fast. Guys, take a HINT there, huh.

There also seems to be a difference between squirting / gushing and ejaculating.

The SKEENE glands have been almost completely overlooked here with the latest research DISCOVERING that the walls of the lower urethra are covered in tiny ducts (not ducks) that allow the SKEENE GLANDS to purge at certain times. The NATURAL times would of course be during child birth and I've hypothesized that before and initially got shot up pretty bad for such a STOOOPID suggestion ... followed by posts and IM's thanking me for explaining WHY they had a huge splooosh of fluid and a massive orgasm right when the baby was born.

I digress.

As stated, the SQUIRT QUEENS of porno say they are fluffed for HOURS prior to the BIG scene so I believe this is when the SKEENS engorge. When they disgorge and how varies hugely. Some squirt during orgasm. Some with NO orgasm. Few report any change in orgasm intensity during discharge and it pisses me off all the IM's I get complaining that my "Technique" worked, she came 30 times but "I'm a FAILURE cuz she never squirted."

Seriously, dude???

As far as urine being ANYWHERE DOWN THERE??? Of course it is. I don't care how well a girl washes after going for a tinkle, if her lover goes back down there they WILL taste pee. A little bit comes out the urethra no matter what. Is some of that going to be measurable with a $50,000 osillyscope looking for PSAs and other unmentionable fluids? BET ON IT. And their point?

I'm thinking if the sex is so good it makes me lose all control of my bodily functions, hell, I can live with that!

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Exactly!!

A bunch of scientists (read: men) were upset that women can squirt them in the eye when they come too and decided to slander/libel G-Spots with a "study" of 7 women.

When was the last time you had a group of women agree on anything?

And haven't we learned from the "hysteria cure" of forced orgasms in a clinical setting isn't the same as a full on at home comfortable experience?

OH ... and since the G-Spot which is actually the Urethral Sponge, gets puffy and pushes clear fluid into the bladder -- when aroused and stroked -- of course it is going to have a little urea in the final ejaculate.

Idiots.
As if billions of women who have reported having G-Spot Orgasms and saying the sensation ISN'T like they're about to pee - wasn't enough. Oh right, they were just women

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BLUE, fucking priceless. You condensed MOST of my responses down to this one post. ... with a couple of notable exceptions. I have been contacted several times by LESBIANS bitching AT ME for keeping this a MALE SECRET for so long.

Again .. SERIOUSLY, dude??

BESIDES my post is to SHARE this and allow others to join in and show that all the research into G-Spots, squirting, multiple/multiple/multiple G-GASMS (which most of the G-SPOT videos don't even mention, BTW. They show how to give a G-GASM and then ... THEY STOP!!!) .. all the research in the world doesn't come close to what a few well meaning MATURE people with a little life experience ALREADY KNOW.

Other G Spot studies were done on corpses - BZZZ WRONG!
You need to be aroused, let alone alive to study the G Spot.

7 women does not a study make.

Just because every other study done tries to debunk the G Spot (and its orgasm) my shop has G Spot workshops (and other sex workshops).

True, most women cannot orgasm from penetration alone (something like 80%).
True, all women can have G Spot orgasms
True, not all women WILL have a G Spot orgasms - it is a process.

And if you make it too much about THE PROCESS - THE ORGASM will not happen.

It is gun shy, it is a doe (the spooked deer), it is somewhat illusive. Women (and their partners) need to have patience and enjoy the journey, relaxed, in their own space, and truly be into what they're doing in the moment and allow themselves to be lost in it.

Which is the polar opposite of what is happening in a scientific study.

Scientists can use all the electrodes they want - sex doesn't work that way.

Well... sometimes it does... when you're perverted like us... but that's another story.

Mr.G said:

As stated, the SQUIRT QUEENS of porno say they are fluffed for HOURS prior to the BIG scene so I believe this is when the SKEENS engorge. When they disgorge and how varies hugely. Some squirt during orgasm. Some with NO orgasm

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A question spring to mind: Do they ever pop out to take a leak during those hours of fluffing?

Skene's .. it's the skene's glands.. after the doctor who originally documented them.

and since that documentation (hundreds of years ago) they have found multiple other glands that surround the girly parts.

Skene.

GiggLeGasm said:

Skene's .. it's the skene's glands.. after the doctor who originally documented them.

and since that documentation (hundreds of years ago) they have found multiple other glands that surround the girly parts.

Skene.

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Volume .. Conservation of mass.. Lavoisier originally documented it.

and since that documentation (hundreds of years ago) there has been no macroscopic exceptions

Lavoisier.

Cumference said:

Volume .. Conservation of mass.. Lavoisier originally documented it.

and since that documentation (hundreds of years ago) there has been no macroscopic exceptions

Lavoisier.

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GiggLeGasm said:

Skene's .. it's the skene's glands.. after the doctor who originally documented them.

and since that documentation (hundreds of years ago) they have found multiple other glands that surround the girly parts.

Skene.

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New study found that the big gushing squirts is mainly urine from the bladder mixed with "stuff" from the skene gland. For an unknown reason they found teh bladder filled faster during sex ( probably standard excitement and adrenal pumping) A woman that is just sloppy wet, is experiencing the same orgasm that a "squirter" does and with just the Skene "juice"

The benefit is that you can find a dry place on the bed to sleep in!! LOL

BlueSugar said:

Other G Spot studies were done on corpses - BZZZ WRONG!
You need to be aroused, let alone alive to study the G Spot.

7 women does not a study make.

Just because every other study done tries to debunk the G Spot (and its orgasm) my shop has G Spot workshops (and other sex workshops).

True, most women cannot orgasm from penetration alone (something like 80%).
True, all women can have G Spot orgasms
True, not all women WILL have a G Spot orgasms - it is a process.

And if you make it too much about THE PROCESS - THE ORGASM will not happen.

It is gun shy, it is a doe (the spooked deer), it is somewhat illusive. Women (and their partners) need to have patience and enjoy the journey, relaxed, in their own space, and truly be into what they're doing in the moment and allow themselves to be lost in it.

Which is the polar opposite of what is happening in a scientific study.

Scientists can use all the electrodes they want - sex doesn't work that way.

Well... sometimes it does... when you're perverted like us... but that's another story.

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Depends on where the Zappers are placed. And yes it is the journey not the stolid and mechanical march to the destination that is the fun.

OX2 said:

New study found that the big gushing squirts is mainly urine from the bladder mixed with "stuff" from the skene gland. For an unknown reason they found teh bladder filled faster during sex ( probably standard excitement and adrenal pumping) A woman that is just sloppy wet, is experiencing the same orgasm that a "squirter" does and with just the Skene "juice"

The benefit is that you can find a dry place on the bed to sleep in!! LOL

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uh.. I actually read the study.. but thanks..

and if there's a dry spot, it's not time to sleep yet

GiggLeGasm said:

uh.. I actually read the study.. but thanks..

and if there's a dry spot, it's not time to sleep yet

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depends on who's bladder couldn't hold out. Or if the banging on the bladder for a long time counts.

I guess I will throw in my two cents also. It is possible, (even likely), that some women do urinate during intercourse; however, this has not been my experience with women who squirt. Based on my own experience, (and yes, at times I can be a curious little fucker), when a woman squirts during sex, the fluid does come out of the urethra; however, unlike urine, what I have witnessed is colorless, odorless and dries without leaving stain. Urine usually has at least some color and odor, and often leaves a stain when it dries.

Sometimes a woman will squirt without realizing what it is. That big wet spot on the bed after sex came from her urethra, and the next morning after it has dried, the is no stain on the sheets. And yes, we do change the sheets before going to sleep. We may fuck in it, but we don't sleep in it.

When a woman is capable of squirting, and gets-off, (so to speak), doing so, I can make her squirt by fingering her G-Spot. From the diagrams I have seen, the G-spot is the exposed side of the Skene's gland, and the same diagram show the urethra running through the gland, similar to how the male urethra runs through our prostate. And being so, I have to cast my vote for the fluid expelled during squirting orignates from the Skene's gland in the same manner as the white mucus in a man's cum originates in our prostate.

Just my two cents.

OX2 said:

depends on who's bladder couldn't hold out. Or if the banging on the bladder for a long time counts.

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Have you ever tried to pee when you have a hard on? I know I can't.

Why let scientists ruin a good thing ? If a woman squirts, be thankful, and enjoy it as much as she is.. if she doesnt squirt....keep trying !

Harold_Hill said:

Have you ever tried to pee when you have a hard on? I know I can't.

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I know I can.


And the conclusion is?

Harold_Hill said:

Have you ever tried to pee when you have a hard on? I know I can't.

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Me either brother.

Its the same way with my wife. Her squirting is not urine. She gets so hot inside, its like her body tries to cool it out.

I finally got around to reading that article about female ejaculation. You know, those researchers seriously need to get a life.