BucksMaster
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What a bloody mess! Just that.
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What a bloody mess! Just that.
Just a bit. Can see there being a second referrendum at this rate.
You can vote a hundred times to stay in, and only one time to get out?
I think they should postpone the Brexit until all effects have become clear
A second vote ends democracy as we know it . The mp’s who did all the scare mongering ( on both sides) should resign because of their mis- information has lead to this farcical situation.
Would you like to tell us how asking people to vote is denying democracy?
As a brit with a cottage in Ireland, I get really frustrated. I can't see there being a viable solution. Brexit will cause inflationary recession in UK. Remain and we are even greater laughing stock with no credibility.Speaking as an Irishman it's a bit like watching your neighbors playing with petrol and matches while drunk. You know it won't end well but you can't stop them. And theres a good chance they will burn our house too!!
Speaking as an Irishman it's a bit like watching your neighbors playing with petrol and matches while drunk. You know it won't end well but you can't stop them. And theres a good chance they will burn our house too!!
As a brit with a cottage in Ireland, I get really frustrated. I can't see there being a viable solution. Brexit will cause inflationary recession in UK. Remain and we are even greater laughing stock with no credibility.
Your President has been throwing petrol on the fire.
Would you like to tell us how asking people to vote is denying democracy?
We were told that the referendum was final and that the result would be implemented.
If it isn't?
The UK's democratic processes have failed. What is the point of voting for anything or anyone?
It’s has been voted on and it’s was a leave decision, that’s the end of the process . Implement what has been voted on . The people have been asked and the people have spoken it’s that simple.
But how is asking people to vote bad for democracy? Even |Microsoft asks "are you sure"
You haven't answered the question. How does asking people to vote destroy democracy?
Because voting again is denying the democratic right of the people . The people have spoken the democratic process has to up held and the decision is to leave so therefore we have to leave.
It is bad because we were told it was a once in a lifetime vote and that the government would abide by the result.
If those statements are revisited, then voting on anything is pointless because the electorate's decision is ignored. That is the attitude of a dictatorship (or the EU) - we don't care WHAT you decide, we'll do what we want.
Whether it should have been a once in a lifetime vote, or whether there should have been different criteria such as 60% of the vote necessary to change the status quo, or whether there should have been a referendum at all? Those questions are irrelevant now.
No one said it was a once in a lifetime vote. That happened in 1975 and I'm not dead yet so that result is the one that should stand unless we should only stop voting when you get the result you want.
What we voted to stay in during 1975 is nothing like what the EU has become. They are completely different organisations with ambitions and goals that were not known in 1975.
https://fullfact.org/europe/ask-full-fact-eu-then-and-now/
If we were to have another referendum on Brexit, two years after the previous one, that would be a betrayal of democracy.
Because voting again is denying the democratic right of the people . The people have spoken the democratic process has to up held and the decision is to leave so therefore we have to leave.
The EU has a record of asking for votes to be re-run until the 'correct' result is achieved.
The original mistake was David Cameron promising a referendum if he didn't get significant concessions from the EU.
The second mistake was allowing the referendum to be a simple majority vote. It should have had a significant margin to change the UK so drastically.
The third mistake was Teresa May calling a General Election and including items in the manifesto that annoyed/worried/angered many of core Conservative voters.