What The Actual Fuck ?

Option 1, We start a police action in central america, kill off the bad guys and install a democratic government that is friendly to us and will take care of it's citizens!

Option 2, We open the borders to everyone, hope all the good people come and leave all the bad ones behind.

Option 3, We stay out of the way and urge the UN to step in down there and fix things.

Option 4, We stay out of the way and perhaps send humanitarian aid after their civil war.

BTW, #1 is why the middle east isn't fond of us and #2 is just plain stupid which is why no country anywhere practices it.
 
Hey guys, I don't do taxes anymore, but this is basic shit that everyone who files needs to know. Unless you wanna pay somebody I guess. But if that's fraud, that's the second- wait, no, third- dumbest way to try to defraud the government I've ever seen. It's not gonna work.

You know some dumber ones?

So crazy they just might work, perhaps?
 
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2 year old children, toddlers, and babies, facing persecution by the Department of Homeland Security in the courts of America.

Judges and lawyers are now working on the Other Side of Alice in Wonderland's Looking Glass. They pretend that the babies can understand what is happening during their hearing

They do not care. They have no time to care. The system is full of babies.

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Source-

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/08/us/migrant-children-family-separation-court.html
 
You know some dumber ones?

So crazy they just might work, perhaps?

No, not so crazy they might work. The dumbest one I've ever seen went like this:

Me: So you listed your mother as a dependent- have you been taking care of her for more than 6 months?
Her: I took care of her the entire year.
Me: Ok, so does she live in your residence or another residence like a nursing home?
Her: Oh, she's dead.
Me: Oh... I'm sorry to hear that. Uh... even more sorry to tell you that it might affect your dependency claim. When did she die? Because you had to provide more than half her monetary support for more than six months.
Her: Oh, she died about 3 years ago.
Me: ...wait what?
Her: Yeah but I do all the upkeep on her grave and stuff.
Me: Have... you're a new client... who did your taxes last year?
Her: I did them myself, but EVERYONE raves about you, so I thought I'd try that this year.
Me: Did you... did you claim... your dead mom... last year?
Her: (starting to realize something is bad wrong) Yeah, of course.
Me: That is like... SUPER illegal. I have to tell the IRS. Now that you've told me this, if I don't tell the IRS that you're claiming a DEAD person, I can go to jail for up to three years.
Her: -stares at me-
-long silence-
-grabs her purse and FUCKING RUNS-
Me: ...Does she not realize that she gave me ALL her information including her driver's license and social security card? -looks at my desk where those still are- /And/ her W2s?
I can't remember if I reported her or not- because on the one hand, I ain't not snitch, but on the other, if I had already put her on the system I would legally have to, and I ain't going to jail for a stranger. I do know I never saw her again. Idk what happened to her.

The other one was someone I KNEW and personally hated with a fucking passion- so bad that when she walked into the office I went to my manager's desk and said, "Hey I'm going into the back until that bitch leaves because if I don't there's gonna be a fight."

She looked at me and knew it was true, and told me to go on.

Now, we have some history, and if you knew me, especially knew the person I used to be, you oughta know not to trust ANYONE that I have history with, because the kind of people I used to run with are probably just RIDDLED with crackheadery- which was the case with this bitch.

So this DUMBASS claimed to need a schedule C- that is, that she was self-employed or owned a small business that was not incorporated and had fewer than 9 employees. She CLAIMED that she cleaned houses and made about $30,000 last year. She also CLAIMED to have a dependent that was MY DEPENDENT, claimed on MY taxes for reasons that I don't want to get into. And she CLAIMED to have contributed NO funds to state or federal taxes- this might take some explaining, but most people pay in- if you have a W2 (this is the most common for personal taxes, employers issue them to you so you can do your taxes) it'll tell you how much you've already paid in.

This bitch didn't clean her own house and had never worked a day in her life. Everything she told my coworker was a lie. She put the defendant, let's call him C, in the system, and it kicked it back because his SS# had already been claimed in OUR SYSTEM SPECIFICALLY. So she told her that someone had already claimed the dependent. I was standing in the back room by the doorway (to outside- point is I could hear everything happening from my position) with a cigarette listening as this bitch went the fuck off. So when that happens (and sometimes it does, when 2 divorced parents try to claim the same kid that they both feel they deserve) you CAN push it through, and then it becomes a legal matter for the IRS to sort out. So co-worker asks if she wants to claim him anyway. She says 'no'.

So they go through the whole thing- schedule C takes a long time because you have to go over all your income and expenses, sometimes people don't even keep books they just shove over a shoe-box full of receipts- and I'm just standing there getting more and more pissed off as I listen to this bitch lie about EVERYTHING. Not a goddamn thing she said was true. Keep in mind that I know her REALLY well.

I know what she's doing- but she can't math well enough to do it. She's trying to pretend she had a job, hoping she wouldn't get audited, and that she made just enough to break even- which would give her EIC and the CTC she THOUGHT she was gonna get on C, which would have been over $1000- which she could then spend on pills.

Bitch didn't do the math- or fucked up on it, one is about as likely as the other- and when she came in, she specifically asked for me (like I knew she would, which is why I went in the back) because she thought I'd help her. I ain't going to jail for her. Anyway, with HER math, which is all the coworker was gonna go on, she wound up owing about $3000.

Again, bitch just RAN. Just up and left.

I came out of the back and said, "Whole fucking thing is fraud. Not a word of it is true." I explained why (I was absolutely right), explained who she was (which was her business but not yours), and the coworker also saw what she was TRYING to do, but was too STUPID to do. It CAN'T be a boldfaced lie like that- like you will straight up go to jail. That's not a "I made a mistake" fine, that's jail time.

Buuuuuut... she didn't /actually/ file them. So I couldn't report it to the IRS, because really all she did was waste our time and piss me off.

She went to jail later anyway, for crackheadery. She's always in and out of jail.
 
The check stub I saw of the immigrant I worked with? She claimed 10 dependents. She was married and had 3 kids. So she paid no taxes. She told me they all did that to keep all their money.

Legal? No clue. All I know is the ones I worked with did this.

Wait I just read this and realized you said you got this information from a check stub. Like... a paycheck? Those can't legally have that information on it- it's protected information for a number of reasons, but a huge one is because it's used on minors by CPS- the number of dependents a person has can be used by abusers to track down abused children who have been placed in foster or kinship care. Employers aren't even allowed to ASK how many dependents a person has- that's not a small thing, like that's not a "You would lose your license and have to close your business" thing, that's a "the proprietor of this business would go to jail for the rest of their lives for this massive security breech". They're listing a person's personal family size- information that they aren't legally allowed to have on a CHECK STUB that is not a secured document- there's like 3 steps there that would land that employer in jail.

This is MASSIVELY illegal, if that answers the question. If you worked for this company and still have YOUR check stubs, you have a massive lawsuit on your hands- like you will never have to work another day in your life. Get that shit together, and get to a civil claims lawyer IMMEDIATELY.

Unless you MEAN that you looked at her W4s and saw that when she filled out the W4 for the IRS upon employment (a confidential form that tells the government that you've changed employers that they can expect their contributions from) that she claimed 10 as a family size- and if that's the case, she can claim whatever she wants. It's not illegal. You can claim 10,000 if you want to. All that does is tell the government how much to withhold from your check so that you pay in on your taxes. You make a guess, and if you're under, you pay at the end of the year. If you're over, you get a refund.

If you did see that, I hope to god she SHOWED it to you, because if you looked at it any other way... you done fucked right up yourself. As a professional, to see that, I have to sign my name and registration # from my certification to see that. It's confidential financial information.

If this is a real thing that happened, she may have claimed more than she needed to so that the government would take less out of her check. This is pretty common, but you pay for it at the end of the year, because you have to pay the difference. I actually went the other way when I was single- claimed 0- because I had a drug problem, and if they gave me that money, I'd spend it. Then, at the end of the year I felt like I got a bonus. Again, this was not illegal for me to do, because this is meant as a GUESS that allows people more control over how much the government takes out of each paycheck, and the difference is rectified at the end of the fiscal year.

However, again, family size is a protected status- see, back in the day, women who had many children were discriminated against, because the employers felt that they would care more about their kids than their job, and would refuse to hire women over this. So now, the employer isn't even allowed to ask. W4s are for the government, not the employer- but often times the employer will confidentially file them for you, normally electronically. But they're not supposed to have this information and they are SURE AS FUCK NOT SUPPOSED TO PUT IT ON YOUR CHECK. Because it's none of their goddamn business.

A check stub should look like this:

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All it should have are the actual deductions- NOT the reason the deduction is what it is. Because that is a MASSIVE security breech and is EXTREMELY illegal.

Get your coworkers together.
Find your check stubs.
Get a lawyer.
 
In fact, a lot of good people are coming here because they want to leave the bad ones behind.

And if I were in their shoes I'd try to do the same thing. It's just that the right answer is to fix their problems there.

There's no magic filter at the border to keep out bad people. Sometimes you can't even tell the difference, other times it's as plain as day.

If a person can't clearly demonstrate that their immigration will be a positive thing for America and that they have the means and intention to support themselves then they shouldn't be allowed in. And if they CAN, there's a process for that.

Don't forget that every last soul in this country, without exception, is an immigrant or descended from immigrants. The point is to Make America Great Again, not Make America Venezuela.
 
And if I were in their shoes I'd try to do the same thing. It's just that the right answer is to fix their problems there.

There's no magic filter at the border to keep out bad people. Sometimes you can't even tell the difference, other times it's as plain as day.

If a person can't clearly demonstrate that their immigration will be a positive thing for America and that they have the means and intention to support themselves then they shouldn't be allowed in. And if they CAN, there's a process for that.

Don't forget that every last soul in this country, without exception, is an immigrant or descended from immigrants. The point is to Make America Great Again, not Make America Venezuela.

Then we need to at least take the sign down, because we're giving some REALLY mixed signals.

The point of immigration isn't for the US to get "good" people who already have a plan. We're supposed to be the land of opportunity. We aren't looking for good people, we are specifically looking for:

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Seems to me this is a "Put up or shut up" situation. No, we're not Venezuela, because as far as I know, Venezuela doesn't bill itself as the land of immigrants and then turn people away at the gate. If our mouths are writing checks our asses can't catch, we need to fix that on one end or the other.
 
Then we need to at least take the sign down, because we're giving some REALLY mixed signals.

The point of immigration isn't for the US to get "good" people who already have a plan. We're supposed to be the land of opportunity. We aren't looking for good people, we are specifically looking for:

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Seems to me this is a "Put up or shut up" situation. No, we're not Venezuela, because as far as I know, Venezuela doesn't bill itself as the land of immigrants and then turn people away at the gate. If our mouths are writing checks our asses can't catch, we need to fix that on one end or the other.

So scrape off the poem.

This IS a land of opportunity. But nowhere does it say that opportunity is just handed to you in a plastic debit card. You gotta WORK for it and just like the days of Ellis Island, if you didn't meet the requirements you just wasted your trip.
 
So scrape off the poem.

This IS a land of opportunity. But nowhere does it say that opportunity is just handed to you in a plastic debit card. You gotta WORK for it and just like the days of Ellis Island, if you didn't meet the requirements you just wasted your trip.

I mean... do that then? Change the image.

I said to pick one. Now work to make it happen. Change the nation's image and the way we project ourself. It's not as easy as scraping off the poem, it's in our culture.

I got the opportunity to be a citizen literally that easy. Easier. They just handed me a paper card the day I was born with a number on it. Then my mom signed it because I was a baby. That's literally all I had to do. Exist.

Really, really wish they had lamented it. I don't get that. It's fucking paper.
 
Then we need to at least take the sign down, because we're giving some REALLY mixed signals.

That's because we have a really mixed population.

People with a historical fact based perspective on immigration, and the gumdrop rainbows n' rivers of chocolate milk brigade who think an open border welfare state is what the "Gimmie your tired" quote is about.

The point of immigration isn't for the US to get "good" people who already have a plan.

Not originally no...but we had to beef up the nanny state/control factor so we have to limit immigration.

We're supposed to be the land of opportunity. We aren't looking for good people, we are specifically looking for:

That came with a caveat......yearning to breathe free, not yearning to get a handout.

Freedom = sink or swim bitch.

Seems to me this is a "Put up or shut up" situation.

Yea it is...do the people want an open immigration policy or a controlled immigration policy?

If the immigration policy is to be very open....you cannot have a socialistic welfare/nanny state or the 'have nots' will just over run your haves ability to pay for all that lovely free shit you're handing out.

If there is to be a highly socialistic state you must have tightly controlled immigration.

The extremes of both isolationism and an open border welfare state are beyond idiotic ideas not even worth discussing.

If our mouths are writing checks our asses can't catch, we need to fix that on one end or the other.

Indeed, we the people of the USA have been busting congresses balls for immigration reform since at least Reagan, and to the best of my knowledge much like our HC situation despite NUMEROUS opportunities for both parties to step up and be fucking heroes....... nothing significant has been done.

It's time for the USA to shit or get off the pot.

Are we the land of the free or the well kept? Can't be both and it's time for M'arica to get real about that.

We can:

A) Slide left and go Euro style lefty. More collectivist, life is way less risky and you are well kept but you're practically forbidden from wiping your own ass. Bit of an economic wet towel...But overall happier people.

Or

B) slide back toward pursuing western liberal ideals the founding fathers based the country on, like individual rights, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. Unfortunately not all are going to do well with that much freedom. But the ones that thrive? Hard to beat......
 
Norwegians. Norwegians would be just fine. The Donald as said so. None of these shit hole Africans, please.
 
If a person can't clearly demonstrate that their immigration will be a positive thing for America and that they have the means and intention to support themselves then they shouldn't be allowed in. And if they CAN, there's a process for that.

The problem is that even for people who go through that process, the number of immigrants legally allowed in each year is limited; that is why there is so much illegal immigration. We could safely raise that number significantly.
 
Trump's mother came to the States from Scotland as a penniless domestic servant during the depression when folks couldn't afford domestic servants and was letting them go. She worked in multiple domestic situations in her initial years, including as a nanny, a job she lost because her employers couldn't afford domestics anymore. Perhaps if Gunthernehem's idea of who should be let in the country had held then, we'd never have had to face Trump. He wouldn't have been born.

And on the other side, maybe Gunthernehem would be happier with Trump's paternal grandfather, originally German, and bringing the family to the States via Canada, where he ran a brothel and opium den. Yeah, that was a positive thing for America.

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/donald-trump-grandfather-prostitution/
 
Trump's mother came to the States from Scotland as a penniless domestic servant during the depression when folks couldn't afford domestic servants and was letting them go. She worked in multiple domestic situations in her initial years, including as a nanny, a job she lost because her employers couldn't afford domestics anymore. Perhaps if Gunthernehem's idea of who should be let in the country had held then, we'd never have had to face Trump. He wouldn't have been born.

And on the other side, maybe Gunthernehem would be happier with Trump's paternal grandfather, originally German, and bringing the family to the States via Canada, where he ran a brothel and opium den. Yeah, that was a positive thing for America.

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/donald-trump-grandfather-prostitution/

Sounds like they were both gainfully employed and one of them provided jobs for how many more people? What's the issue? You think they should have had "better" jobs?
 
Sounds like they were both gainfully employed and one of them provided jobs for how many more people? What's the issue? You think they should have had "better" jobs?

Of course you're changing the goal posts of what you originally posted. You didn't post "gainfully employed." (And, as a matter of fact, Trump's mother couldn't maintain employment in her registered profession). And it's no surprise, you being a Trumpette who is OK with his ways, that you would consider a brothel and opium den owner as a profession the "improved America." Of course you think that Trump improves America. You wouldn't be despicable otherwise.

And you're trying to deflect and detract by changing the subject too. Of course. :D
 
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Who is changing the goal posts now?

A couple of weeks ago I was Deplorable. Now I'm Despicable?

I'm running out of room on my car to put the bumper stickers.
 
I've interchanged those terms in my posts for over a year. If I've used one more than the other for you, there's no particular meaning in that. From your posts, I can see that you're fully capable of being both.

Your latest posts is just another attempt to deflect from trying to avoid continuing to apply your own criteria to the vile man you support.
 
I've interchanged those terms in my posts for over a year. If I've used one more than the other for you, there's no particular meaning in that. From your posts, I can see that you're fully capable of being both.

Your latest posts is just another attempt to deflect from trying to avoid continuing to apply your own criteria to the vile man you support.

I would have supported Satan himself rather than Hillary Clinton.

As for despicable behavior, I would direct your attention to the blue wave of bad behavior.

https://twitter.com/SenBillCassidy/status/1049753562807455746/video/1

Trump and the Republican party may not rep their side very well sometimes, but "despicable" is a term that truly describes the behavior of the Democratic masses.

MOST of us conservatives basically want to be left alone. We're basically Norwegians with red necks.
 
Trump and the Republican party may not rep their side very well sometimes, but "despicable" is a term that truly describes the behavior of the Democratic masses.

I'm sorry, which party was it that just nominated a man credibly accused of sexual assault to the Supreme Court? You know after they nominated another man also credibly accused of sexual harassment?

And who's the party that's separating parents and children and then lying about it?

You, box, and bot must all go to the same dumbass fucks Klan rallies.
 
I'm sorry, which party was it that just nominated a man credibly accused of sexual assault to the Supreme Court? You know after they nominated another man also credibly accused of sexual harassment?

And who's the party that's separating parents and children and then lying about it?

You, box, and bot must all go to the same dumbass fucks Klan rallies.

Clearly the accusation was not credible or we'd be launching the process all over again for a different pick

Spin City...

As for the klan, the recent actions of Democratic party members are a whole lot more in line with them than anything I've said or done.
 
As for the klan, the recent actions of Democratic party members are a whole lot more in line with them than anything I've said or done.

Yeah, the Democrats tend to treat women and minorities fairly and with respect. Yes, much more than you and your racist buddies have ever done. I agree.
 
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