Wtf Is It With The Interest In Incest?

KindofHere said:

And now I'm compelled to look. Great.

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The popularity of incest fiction on this site has always puzzled and disturbed me in equal measure.

There are lots of strange things that turn people on, for example vomiting. I could write a story about a group of girls who attend a bachelorette party and all come down with violent vomiting and diarrhea after contracting food poisoning on their night out. Such a story would greatly appeal to those with a vomit fetish, and have them wetting their pants with a somewhat denser substance than urine.

But vomiting is a rare fetish, so such a story would be limited in its appeal. There are not thousands of vomit stories on Literotica - so many it needs its own category - with vast numbers of new stories with this theme appearing daily to thousands of views.

I have used incestuous themes in some of my stories for humor and satire - a father and his spoiled daughter who seem a little too close for comfort; an abusive man who carries on an affair with his cousin and unknown to both of them is the father of her three kids; and a bumbling pervert obsessed with his voyeurism of his cousin, before suffering an Oedipus like reaction when he makes a terrible error and extricates his sister's panties from the laundry hamper rather than his cousin's panties and realizes his mistake - but these are all written for laughs rather than erotica.

Never would I write an incest story for erotic purposes.

RetroFan said:

The popularity of incest fiction on this site has always puzzled and disturbed me in equal measure.

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I'm puzzled that you're puzzled.

The appeal of incest as a type of erotica is as plain as day. It's the taboo. There are many taboos, but the taboo against sex with your kin is the single most pervasive and universal sex taboo there is. It's that quality -- that it's forbidden -- that makes it erotic. Sophocles understood that over 2000 years ago. Its appeal is the same today. That's why it's so popular.

Incest on this site is fantasy; it has nothing to do with incest as it usually occurs in the real world. I don't think there's anything disturbing about it at all.

RetroFan said:

The popularity of incest fiction on this site has always puzzled and disturbed me in equal measure.

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I really can't understand the inability to understand that there aren't too many places on the Internet or from erotica distributors where you can freely find stories on incest and this is one of them--so folks into it come here. That doesn't in any way mean that a large percentage of the world's population is into incest fiction.

SimonDoom said:

Incest on this site is fantasy; it has nothing to do with incest as it usually occurs in the real world. I don't think there's anything disturbing about it at all.

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This.

It's also very widespread. If you visit sites where people upload pictures you'll find that incest themes are extremely common and they come from all over the world.

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KindofHere said:

Retro, man, gross.

In pm I told someone I'd like to think I could write anything, no big deal. Doesn't have to turn me on for me to write it, but Ahhhhh.

You bring up vomit and so I thought about a scene in my head and the words I'd use to make it sexual and I got pretty sick, like in the movies where one person pukes/gags and everyone else starts puking and gagging, except in this instance, it's only and my imagination making me gag.

Ahhhhh.

I could still write a vomit scene, I'd just need a trashcan nearby.

On a side note nearby doesn't look right to me. I spelled it from memory, but after i spelled it I keep wanting to say, NER-BEE. It's a word I don't use often.

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Bet you I could do a hot vomit scene. After making alien wasp egg parasitic impregnation hot, which I didn't think I could, vomit? I'm going to try that one.

As for incest, yeah, that's a hot fantasy. Like pilot and Simon said, anything taboo. That's why underage stuff is so popular as well. Anything that people actually think is exciting, even tho they might not actually do it. Look at the popularity of horror and slasher movies, and there's some pretty ghastly examples of those. Doesn't mean we're going to go out there and do it tho. It's the thrill of the illicit and the forbidden, mix that in with sex and wooooooo....

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SimonDoom said:

I'm puzzled that you're puzzled.

The appeal of incest as a type of erotica is as plain as day. It's the taboo.

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I'm puzzled by your puzzlement. Why would anyone have a fascination with taboos? Being wicked or even just countercultural was fascinating when I was six. I'm older now. Incest is just repulsive. Fetishes tend to be kind of gross. Don't get me started on pedophilia or bestiality.

Taboo? Who CARES? What's the appeal in doing something because someone said no? Who dreams of being that influenced by others? To be countercultural you have to be aware of and influenced by culture. Who has time? It's like caring about sports or watching videos all evening. Where do people find the motivation to want to do these things?

Color me eternally puzzled by most of what people find important - and unimportant. And thank heavens I am, is my view.

incest turns SOME people on.

here are some other subjects which turn [some] people on.

http://forum.literotica.com/forumdisplay.php?f=58

geronimo_appleby said:

incest turns SOME people on.

here are some other subjects which turn [some] people on.

http://forum.literotica.com/forumdisplay.php?f=58

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The "No. of Views" column is a fascinating survey, right there. I want someone to rank the top twenty in order (because I'm too lazy to, right now), and post the results.

Yeah there is a ton of it here. I have noticed too. The titles and descriptions make it hard to take seriously. A son gets to teach his mommy a lesson. That's going to me laugh instead of get horny.

geronimo_appleby said:

incest turns SOME people on.

here are some other subjects which turn [some] people on.

http://forum.literotica.com/forumdisplay.php?f=58

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Incest is different from the fetishes, because you can combine them! People don't much, but they could. 'Mommy's puke gushed warm and wet around my balls while I fucked her throat."

Charmolypi said:

Yeah there is a ton of it here. I have noticed too. The titles and descriptions make it hard to take seriously. A son gets to teach his mommy a lesson. That's going to me laugh instead of get horny.

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But . . . but . . . authors use those titles because they attract more readers here than less juvenile titles do.

HandsInTheDark said:

I'm puzzled by your puzzlement. Why would anyone have a fascination with taboos? Being wicked or even just countercultural was fascinating when I was six. I'm older now. Incest is just repulsive. Fetishes tend to be kind of gross. Don't get me started on pedophilia or bestiality.

Taboo? Who CARES? What's the appeal in doing something because someone said no? Who dreams of being that influenced by others? To be countercultural you have to be aware of and influenced by culture. Who has time? It's like caring about sports or watching videos all evening. Where do people find the motivation to want to do these things?

Color me eternally puzzled by most of what people find important - and unimportant. And thank heavens I am, is my view.

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Why? I don't know if there is an answer. But the fascination with taboos, and fetishes, obviously is a huge part of erotica, and a huge part of what fascinates people about it. People have foot fetishes. Why? I don't know. But they do. I don't have a foot fetish, but it is not at all difficult for me to understand that others do. I think it's quite interesting that they do, and in my view the world is a better and more interesting place because they do. What puzzles me about Retrofan's response -- and yours -- is the seeming inability to imagine or understand that others get turned on by things you don't. You say that "incest is just repulsive." No, it's not. Nothing just "is" anything -- I would think a writer of erotic stories -- especially a skilled one like you -- would understand that. You write stories with dominance and non-consent themes. It seems to me that's a more intrinsically "repulsive" topic than that of consensual adult incest, but I wouldn't try to argue that to someone that enjoys those stories. I do not believe that anything is intrinsically anything. That, to me, is a vital element of the appeal of erotica.

This is all fantasy. People have different fantasies, different desires, different fetishes. There's nothing puzzling about it There's nothing wrong with it.

A significant theme of erotica, which appears in almost every category of it, including the ones in which you write, is rebellion against social norms. The more powerful the norms, the more acute and interesting the rebellion. A naked person in a bedroom is not interesting, or that erotic. But a naked person walking down a public street is interesting, and kinky, and worthy of a story. A guy having sex with his girlfriend is not interesting. A guy having sex with his sister is. A guy having his shoe tied is not interesting. A guy having his hands tied to the bed with his shoelaces by a hot woman, or a hot guy, is. Particular kinks and fetishes may not be your cup of tea, but it should not be difficult at all to be able to understand that this is a fundamental part of what people think is erotic. You are entitled to your view, of course, but it's odd to me that you think it's desirable to be puzzled by what other people think interesting, important, or kinky. You are saying, in effect, that you don't want to understand other people. You take pride in having no appreciation of the fact that others may take delight in things you don't. I cannot imagine having that attitude. I especially cannot understand a writer having that attitude. But in the spirit of being true to my point, I'll try to understand!

simple really

Incest is popular because many wish to fantasize about what they would never have the courage to try or the opportunity.

A gorgeous cousin or hot mother a sister whose husband is infertile. So many truly preposterous situations over and above the ease of which the participants just slide into a sexual situation with their sibling, dad, mother, aunt, grandmother, etc. I think it's akin to winning the lottery for a reader in that they don't believe it would or could but if it did this is how they see it happen. Same holds true for keeping it in the family. They don't have a handsome uncle or rich brother to rescue them.

I would assert that those of you on this thread who can't understand the mad attraction should read some of the wild premisses behind these stories. Some I'll grant you are so verbose and poorly fleshed out that one can not read past a few paragraphs but by in large the more experienced authors do very well.
I'd bet that you would see the creativity behind such in the creations of those who manage excellent suspension of disbelief and flesh out their characters well fill in the story with supporting cast and incidents. Which of course is the case with any good writing.

IMHO no single Incest audience exists. Some want straight motherfucking; others want slut-izing and/or humiliation and anal rape and other fetishes. Some want to see a slow seduction. Most don't want gay brothers -- but experienced bi sisters are assumed, and hardly count as incest. Doing mom and sis together is fun. Getting dad and bro into the action is heavy.

You want many reads? Title a story I FUCKED MOM BY MISTAKE or SIS SUCKS DAD AND ME or MY MOTHER THE SLUT or BEND OVER, SIS or the like. Sure hits! Why, I dunno. Not my fetish.

KindofHere said:

Retro, man, gross.

In pm I told someone I'd like to think I could write anything, no big deal. Doesn't have to turn me on for me to write it, but Ahhhhh.

You bring up vomit and so I thought about a scene in my head and the words I'd use to make it sexual and I got pretty sick, like in the movies where one person pukes/gags and everyone else starts puking and gagging, except in this instance, it's only and my imagination making me gag.

Ahhhhh.

I could still write a vomit scene, I'd just need a trashcan nearby.

On a side note nearby doesn't look right to me. I spelled it from memory, but after i spelled it I keep wanting to say, NER-BEE. It's a word I don't use often.

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Yeah, erotic vomiting stories are pretty gross but my main point is that while some people are turned on by vomiting, it is an extremely rare fetish and therefore any fetish stories that are written with this as a central theme would have limited appeal.

On other occasions, something unusual might turn a person on, but it is not a true fetish. For example, a guy might get really turned on by Australian girls and therefore love any stories set in cities such as Melbourne, Sydney, Canberra, Brisbane, Adelaide, Perth or Darwin for this reason alone. But it isn't really a fetish.

Some other fetishes have wider appeal but are not so popular if genders are reversed. For example, fat fetishes. There is quite a wide market for heterosexual and lesbian stories involving overweight girls, while I believe that in Gay Male there is demand for stories involving gay men where one or more of the men is overweight. However, how much demand is there for heterosexual stories involving fat men with women of normal weight? Very little at best.

Other posters have commented on the taboo and forbidden factors being the appeal of incest stories. You can write perfectly good stories involving forbidden sex without using incest. For example, I wrote a story where a young man falls for the seductive daughter of a New York Mafia boss, and they secretly have wild sex when the father and his mobster friends are nearby. In another, a young man who works at a country club has an affair with the fed-up wife of a powerful, philandering Senator. All it takes is a bit of imagination and you can write interesting, forbidden sex stories.

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KindofHere said:

Forbidden is Incest/Pseudo-incest. Rape/Non-con/Reluctance. Beastiality. Underage. You find all four of that in the Game of Throne Books (not in hardcore detail) but it's there.

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And it's interesting how over time what's seen as forbidden is becoming less and less. Personally I think the next one to fall will be underage, you're already seeing more and more of a push to legitimize pedophilia. As for incest, there's different cultural barriers there. Look at somewhere like Pakistan where marriage to cousins is a norm rather than a slightly weird exception.

There must be a good quote about the fall of Rome that applies here.

ChloeTzang said:

And it's interesting how over time what's seen as forbidden is becoming less and less. Personally I think the next one to fall will be underage, you're already seeing more and more of a push to legitimize pedophilia. As for incest, there's different cultural barriers there. Look at somewhere like Pakistan where marriage to cousins is a norm rather than a slightly weird exception.

There must be a good quote about the fall of Rome that applies here.

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When in Rome, be careful of falling Romans.

TxRad said:

When in Rome, be careful of falling Romans.

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Lol. Also watch out for Roaming romantic romans wreaking wrath on relations. Oedipus or whoever was Greek tho, so I'm just confusing myself now....

This site as well as tumblr, twitter and even mainstream video porn are a testimony to how popular this kink is. At least in the fantasy sense. That thing you secretly think about, but would never do just like rape fantasies.

Any site like this that allows it will see a lot of discussion of it because like minded kinksters can come here and anonymously discuss something you can't talk about in real life without being deemed sick.

KindofHere said:

That's not really forbidden. That's frowned upon at best. They have a category for that: cheating wives, erotic couplings, maybe public sex.

Forbidden is Incest/Pseudo-incest. Rape/Non-con/Reluctance. Beastiality. Underage. You find all four of that in the Game of Throne Books (not in hardcore detail) but it's there.

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The books it wasn't in hardcore detail, but the show took everything up a notch and all the people who publicly condemn any type of extreme kink were happily sitting on their couch going 'ooohhhh' but its okay because its HBO.