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Old 11-26-2017, 10:21 PM   #1276
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Apparently cell phone prices have been fairly consistent over the decades:

We bought our first home PC in 1996, made by IBM, cost us $4700
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Old 11-26-2017, 10:58 PM   #1277
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We bought our first home PC in 1996, made by IBM, cost us $4700
That would be US$7330 now.

Our first home PC was a Heathkit H8-H14-H19 system in 1980 that cost US$3500 with a 2Mhz 8080a CPU and 16k RAM. The add-on 64K card was another $800 but we needed it for CP/M. And we had to build the system ourselves -- mainframe, floppy drives (*), terminal, printer. Try building a dot-matrix printer sometime, from bags of raw parts.

(*) The H17-3 package was a mainframe-size enclosure and three double-height drives for hard-sector single-sided single-density 5.25-inch floppies storing 91k each. We needed that much storage to run the COBOL-80 compiler and still had to switch discs.

The total US$4300 then is equivalent to around $12,800 now. (1980-2017 inflation is just under 300%.) My $150 Android phone is more powerful.



In retrospect, we should have gone with the H11 system with an LSI-11 CPU running Unix and other DEC PDP-11 warez. But that, and the required 8-inch floppy drives, would have cost another $1600 or so ($4750 now). Even for we well-paid software engineers, that was out of budget.

Meanwhile, alas. The handball keyboard never caught on.


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Old 11-27-2017, 07:04 PM   #1278
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Old 11-27-2017, 08:53 PM   #1280
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Old 11-28-2017, 07:34 PM   #1281
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Old 11-30-2017, 05:53 PM   #1282
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Old 12-04-2017, 09:11 AM   #1286
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