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Old 03-08-2016, 08:36 PM   #126
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Pomegranate

I am going to start drinking pomegranate juice (not a blend) to see if it has any of the touted effects for me. I love the taste anyway, but have never made a habit of drinking it.

http://easyhealthoptions.com/pomegra...r-mens-health/
http://theeagleonline.com.ng/five-fr...nce-naturally/

Anyone else tried it?

Disclaimer : I have low testosterone and use a bio-identical compounded cream. I have been getting back to regular exercise in the form of walking about 6 to 10 miles a week, so there are other variables. This will be mostly anecdotal, but I will report any changes.
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Old 03-09-2016, 03:29 AM   #127
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I am going to start drinking pomegranate juice (not a blend) to see if it has any of the touted effects for me. I love the taste anyway, but have never made a habit of drinking it.

http://easyhealthoptions.com/pomegra...r-mens-health/
http://theeagleonline.com.ng/five-fr...nce-naturally/

Anyone else tried it?

Disclaimer : I have low testosterone and use a bio-identical compounded cream. I have been getting back to regular exercise in the form of walking about 6 to 10 miles a week, so there are other variables. This will be mostly anecdotal, but I will report any changes.
Are you going to eat it or drink it?
I was not aware it increased libido in men. Interesting. I can get the actual fruits here, so I can just cut them open and eat (the seeds as well). It took me a while to acquire the taste: a little sour but OK.
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I am going to start drinking pomegranate juice (not a blend) to see if it has any of the touted effects for me. .... This will be mostly anecdotal, but I will report any changes.
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... I was not aware it increased libido in men. Interesting. ...
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Old 03-09-2016, 04:56 AM   #129
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Extra Strong - Duff and Real

.... He promises me a replacement order as soon as he has his replacement batch, together with bonus points on my account.
This London outfit did send me replacement stock. It is ALSO the dud stuff. It tastes so different and I told them that so it's a poor show they didn't test before sending me. I wonder what is going on here. This stuff is not cheap so with fake circulating in the market I am fast losing my confidence in it.

I picked up an alternative product called KUBWA. Anyone know it? I'll report my first impression soon.
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Are you going to eat it or drink it?
I have to work through the trade-offs :-) I usually don't eat them very often because the fruit itself can be kind of messy to eat. While I like the taste of the fruit I'm not a huge fan of the mess and the seeds. I have a juicer, but it's a pain to clean. On the other hand, packaged juice that isn't cut with fruit juice (or extra sugar) is kind of expensive. I'll probably try a combination of eating them and juicing them first, and if that turns out to be too much trouble I'll buy some juice for the experiment.
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I did some searching online and found a reference on WebMd saying that there's limited trials/evidence supporting any sexual benefits, but that there's a bunch of other documented positives (cholesterol, prostate, etc) at "doses" of 200ml/day (and no evidence at all that anything over 250ml/day makes any difference) There's lots of other web sites making claims about railroad spike quality hard ons, but it is the internet after all.

So, here's the math so far ... That's close enough to an 8oz cup for the sake of easy math. The neighborhood grocery store has 100% pomegranate juice at $5 / 32 oz. That's about two bottles per week. $10/week, $520/year. Pretty steep, but maybe I can find bigger bottles for less per oz.

WebMd mentioned pomegranate extract, so I did some searching. Extracts are available in powder or capsule form. Prices vary too much to do more than guess, but it looks like $50/year. Capsules have "Other Ingredients: microcrystalline cellulose, silicified microcrystalline cellulose, stearic acid, and colloidal silicon dioxide." Since supplements are unregulated, who knows what else might be in there.

Anyway, I got the juice for now since I like the taste, and can flavor water with it. No railroad spikes tearing holes in my pants yet, but I'll keep you posted ;-)
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... I picked up an alternative product called KUBWA. Anyone know it? I'll report my first impression soon.
Gentlemen, I give you "KUBWA"



FUCKING WOWSER does this stuff do it! Stonking Hardon Animalistic Attitude Enhanced or what? FUCKING WOWSER!

And the pitch she got to! I was for watching her for longer adoring it and licking the length of it and coping with the hefty solidity of it in her mouth, but she was desperate and shoved my back onto the bed and climbed over and sank onto her joy pole with this amazing groan of shock, and then I tell you it was four minutes later she was in total ecstasy and me no-where near ...

KUBWA? The sex fiend in me is born again!

I've more to report in more rational terms but there's my opener on this one!

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FUCKING WOWSER does this stuff do it! Stonking Hardon Animalistic Attitude Enhanced or what? FUCKING WOWSER!

And the pitch she got to! I was for watching her for longer adoring it and licking the length of it and coping with the hefty solidity of it in her mouth, but she was desperate and shoved my back onto the bed and climbed over and sank onto her joy pole with this amazing groan of shock, and then I tell you it was four minutes later she was in total ecstasy and me no-where near ...

KUBWA? The sex fiend in me is born again!

I've more to report in more rational terms but there's my opener on this one!

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Sounds like you are excited by this one a tad Simon!
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...Extra Strong is totally fullproof
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Often I will open a capsule and take just half the contents as that will do me grandly and I'm saving a bit of cash. Mind, doing it that way, the powder tastes ghastly!
Just out of curiosity: How would you describe that "awful" taste from the active pills?

Is it bitter?
(It could very well be the active ingredient you could taste)
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Just out of curiosity: How would you describe that "awful" taste from the active pills?

Is it bitter?
(It could very well be the active ingredient you could taste)
The real stuff Extra Strong is, yes, bitter. It is also sort of grittily dry on the tongue. Whereas by contrast the fake stuff I was supplied with has an element of caramel sweetness about it [alongside bitter undertones], but also it begins to melt in the mouth; as if course one would expect with any kind of sugary substance.

the two are so different. With there being dud on the market, I'm moving on from Extra Strong now, for all it has been great for me for about four years. As you see, I seem to have found an alternative product which suits me! I'm saying that on the experience of just one weekend, so that might not be my last word!
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That kind of confirms my suspicion.

Sildenafil citrate is infamous for its bitter taste, and there are quite a few patents for ways to (attempt to) mask that taste.
The "real stuff" that worked, could very well have been spiked with viagra.
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That kind of confirms my suspicion.

Sildenafil citrate is infamous for its bitter taste, and there are quite a few patents for ways to (attempt to) mask that taste.
The "real stuff" that worked, could very well have been spiked with viagra.
Ah. I see your thinking of course. But it's been on the market for years in Europe and no-one has identified it as being spiked. More significantly, it has a much longer 'effect' time than viagra - in my experience two and a half days. And its effect by enhancing arousal as distinct from viagra's effect of sorting the 'plumbing' to enable a good erection, is really quite different.

I still don't get it as to why you think it so unlikely that a carefully concocted quality herbal extract mix could do the trick of enabling a really good erection capacity for a guy with a mild form ED?
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Ah. I see your thinking of course. But it's been on the market for years in Europe and no-one has identified it as being spiked. More significantly, it has a much longer 'effect' time than viagra - in my experience two and a half days. And its effect by enhancing arousal as distinct from viagra's effect of sorting the 'plumbing' to enable a good erection, is really quite different.

I still don't get it as to why you think it so unlikely that a carefully concocted quality herbal extract mix could do the trick of enabling a really good erection capacity for a guy with a mild form ED?

There are lots of herbal extracts that have medicinal effects. Actually, most of our modern medicine is based on "natural" substances.

The pharmaceutical companies are constantly searching for new and interesting molecules, and "traditional medicine" has delivered a lot of them.
If something is actually working in a controlled experiment, it will move very quickly from "alternative medicine" to "medicine".

Somethimg with an effect on ED has been the holy grail of medicine for hundreds (or thousands) of years, but nothing really worked until very recently.
That is what makes me sceptical.

Alternative medicine is generally not tested for consumer safety before the criminal proceedings start. It costs money and the market is a swamp steeped in mumbo-jumbo where a plethora of fantastic remedies appear and disappear quicker than crap lice on a boatsman.
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There are lots of herbal extracts that have medicinal effects. Actually, most of our modern medicine is based on "natural" substances.

The pharmaceutical companies are constantly searching for new and interesting molecules, and "traditional medicine" has delivered a lot of them.
If something is actually working in a controlled experiment, it will move very quickly from "alternative medicine" to "medicine".

Somethimg with an effect on ED has been the holy grail of medicine for hundreds (or thousands) of years, but nothing really worked until very recently.
That is what makes me sceptical.

Alternative medicine is generally not tested for consumer safety before the criminal proceedings start. It costs money and the market is a swamp steeped in mumbo-jumbo where a plethora of fantastic remedies appear and disappear quicker than crap lice on a boatsman.
I love your last comparison!
I've certainly noticed those things come and go on the market.

You have me considering whether the main reason I have had results with just a few of these things I share on this thread is that my ED is at the mild end of the spectrum and it is within the context of good health and fitness generally. Some of those natural remedies which have been in use for centuries have worked to a degree, for guys without a serious physiological condition. So, no surprise that the herbal remedy geeks have been doing a lot of importing and mixing and refining and have come up with a few results which work to greater degree when synergy of effects kicks in.

I'd be interested to know what kind of result a guy who has ED to the extent of nil possibility of erection without medication, has with use of the likes of Extra Strong or the one I've just come across, KUBWA.
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Preliminary results

It's been about a week and a half since I started drinking a cup of pomegranate juice every day. The results so far are completely subjective but I'll report them anyway.

I've been waking up with morning wood for most of the last week. That was pretty normal up to about 10 years ago, but has been somewhat of a rare occurrence since I crossed the 1/2 century mark almost 2 years ago.

My wife was sick most of last week, so not much partner sex but things felt pretty good on a couple of solo flights. I didn't catch her bug, which is either a coincidence or might have something to do with the vitamin C in the juice. That's anyone's guess.

We did manage to find time to fuck this morning, and things were very good. TMI warning ;-) Over the last couple years I usually don't always stay completely hard from the start of foreplay to orgasm. I usually start out strong but droop a bit during long, luxurious cunnilingus sessions. I usually recover when we eventually finally move on to PIV sex. Today I stayed very hard from start to finish, including a long (and very enjoyable) time focused on her pleasure. It's kind of amazing that after 22 years that only seems to get better and better . But, I digress. I had a great finish, but it's hard to compare to "before" :-)

So, completely unscientific and only a couple of very subjective data points - but a fun little experiment. And promising. The down sides so far are the cost (about $1/day) and sugar (35g/8oz serving). I plan to stick with the program for at least a month and then decide whether or not to continue. Unfortunately, I have a colonoscopy scheduled early this week, and need to stop for a couple of days (because purple juice is verboten). I'll start again after the procedure.

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You have me considering whether the main reason I have had results with just a few of these things I share on this thread is that my ED is at the mild end of the spectrum and it is within the context of good health and fitness generally. Some of those natural remedies which have been in use for centuries have worked to a degree, for guys without a serious physiological condition. So, no surprise that the herbal remedy geeks have been doing a lot of importing and mixing and refining and have come up with a few results which work to greater degree when synergy of effects kicks in.

I'd be interested to know what kind of result a guy who has ED to the extent of nil possibility of erection without medication, has with use of the likes of Extra Strong or the one I've just come across, KUBWA.
That is a really good question.
Bodies are complex mechanisms, and if the problem is just some minor unbalance, maybe not much is needed to tip the scales in the right direction (or the other way ).
A bit of blood pressure, testosterone or general mood could make the difference.

Another possibility could be general fluctuations. If they coincide with something else, we have a tendency to link them.
Apophenia are a pain in the ass whenever you want to test something.

In the case of total ED, there is probably little to do in any way. But what defines "total ED"? (short of a missing prick).
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So a second report on ...

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I've more to report in more rational terms but there's my opener on this one.
My promised further and more rational report guys.

Concerns first:
I emailed the company which imports this stuff into the UK, a week ago, with a few mild questions, and they have not replied. And Kubwa has no website that I've found.

Stated ingredients:
The usual Ginseng and Ginko Bilboa and then some new ones on me:
Rubus Idaeus - that's raspberry!
Jujube is an exotic date
Cordyceps Sinensis the principal ingredient has a very long history in Chinese and Indian potency potions I discover.
No proven claims, nor any warnings, about these ingredients on the sites I looked on. But is there something else in it? The reason I wonder is because:

KUBWA is, for me, very effective indeed.
Taking it, we've had several sessions of excellent sex, as long as we want, and I've had total confidence about being solid to burst and in control of my time to ejaculate. She's had orgasms on the girth and hardness of me, with ease. All good.
And what's more: I've had serious morning wood after a late night ejaculation, which I have not had in a long while, and my pre-cum factory kicks in very nicely anytime I get aroused in the sixteen hours after taking this stuff, which is I would say the length of time it is effective for me.

It's hard to judge, but it seems to me that the stimulation is as much to my brain as it is to the business of blood flow to the right place.

The typical side effects of these things same as Viagra - stuffy nose, bit of face flush, slight tingle at the eyes at about 40 minutes after digestion just for a few minutes - those side effects are LESS pronounced than I have known with either Viagra or the previous herbal Vs I have used.

And having had a few of these over several days, I feel very well and I have been sleeping really deeply.

You'll not be surprised that I have been back to the shop for more and bought multiple for a discount.

End of second report on KUBWA.

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Pomegranate update

It has been about two months since I started drinking pomegranate juice every day. Here's an update, and a possible change in course.

Erections : Noticeable difference in strength and duration. My erections usually comes and go during luxurious and lengthy oral on my wife before, but seems to hold steadier as she goes (or comes ;-) now. Morning wood has gotten much harder and longer lasting, but usually gone by the time I make it to the can.

Blood pressure : My wife got a blood pressure monitor, but it arrived after I had been drinking juice regularly for almost a month so I don't have before and after data points. That said, based on my last annual exam my blood pressure appears to be a few points lower. It's still just above the prehypertension line. This monitor records two people and gives plots on the computer, which isn't very erotic but all in the name of science and sex, I guess :-)

I can't say if it's a placebo effect, but since I like having a cup of juice with breakfast I'll probably continue :-) The down side is the price (~$3.50 / 32 oz on sale, or almost $10 / gallon) and sugar (24 - 30g per 8 oz glass, depending on which web site you believe).

As I mentioned previously, between becoming more active and trying to eat better I have been losing some weight, which is probably a contributing factor. With that in mind, I have been reading about beet juice as a lower sugar alternative. It's about twice the price of pomegranate in the grocery store, but about 1/3 the sugar. There's a bunch of fairly credible web pages (e.g. WebMd) with information about beet juice making exercise more effective, plus lower blood pressure and better hard ons. I bought a bottle today and drank some with lunch. It's good that I actually like beets, because the taste isn't for everyone. Maybe I'll mix in some pomegranate for taste :-).

Between getting more consistent exercise and pomegranate there's no way to say if the juice is doing anything, but I'm happy so far.

Beets glossy summary :
http://www.dirtytruthreviews.com/roo...th-beet-juice/

Less hype, but interesting :
http://www.webmd.com/hypertension-hi...blood-pressure
http://www.webmd.com/brain/news/2010...good-for-brain
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Between getting more consistent exercise and pomegranate there's no way to say if the juice is doing anything, but I'm happy so far....
I would put my money on the exercise, but I really like pomegranate.

Glad to hear that you like beet juice. IMHO beet juice may be 1/3 the price but it is 1/10 the taste!



Almost all fruit juice contains sugar on par with soft drinks.
They do also contain vitamins, anti oxidants and other nice stuff soft drink don't, but you should not drink a gallon a day and feel safe.

I honestly don't think $10 a gallon is bad for good juice?
It is about what I pay for gasoline.
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Almost all fruit juice contains sugar on par with soft drinks. They do also contain vitamins, anti oxidants and other nice stuff soft drink don't, but you should not drink a gallon a day and feel safe.
You're right about juice, though not all "juice" is created equal. The juice that I'm buying is 100% pomegranate (now beet) juice, with no added anything so that number is the natural sugar in the fruit / root. As opposed to cane sugar, high fructose corn syrup, and whatever else is in juice blends and "cocktails" with mostly apple, pear, or grape juice flavored with just a little pomegranate. On the same shelf was a "workout blend" advertising beet and mango (I think, might have been another tropical) that had added sweetener. I didn't look at the label very closely since I was after pure juice, but those little cans would be closer to $40 / gal

A gallon a day would be hard to get down, especially beet juice :-) I guessed at a "daily dose" of 1 cup after reading a few WebMd articles, and checked with my Md when I saw her recently. She was fine with that. The cost bothered me at first, but I rationalize it by thinking of my heart first, and my hard on second hah. A gallon is good for two weeks, I'm not drinking OJ (etc) and don't splurge on coffee or anything else. It's great waking up with morning wood, but I won't raid my retirement account for it

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Where I live, you are not allowed to add anything to juice and call it juice afterwards.
(Except adding the same amount of water that was previously removed)

Drinking a gallon of beet juice is a scary thought!
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Where I live, you are not allowed to add anything to juice and call it juice afterwards.
It's similar here, but there are gray areas that companies take advantage of. "100% juice" printed on the front label just means 100% of some kind of juice. Pomegranate for example is often less than 10% pomegranate, just flavoring really, with the rest being apple, grape, or pear because those are sweeter and less expensive. If there is a word before or after "juice", then it is probably sweetened. E.g. "Juice blend", "juice drink", "juice cocktail". The FDA information label (the US Food and Drug Administration) has smaller print and much less wiggle room. There is where you'll find preservatives, other juices, etc but you have to read it.

Just read about an unusual side effect of drinking beet juice. Beeturia!

http://www.compoundchem.com/2014/03/...y-of-beetroot/
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Old 05-12-2016, 12:36 PM   #148
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Just read about an unusual side effect of drinking beet juice. Beeturia!

There is a name for it!

I have tried that several times when eating borscht.
Pissing red/orange and crapping a dark violet.

The first few times the reaction is a panicky "ohshitohshitohshitImustbeverysick"-feling when you rise from the porcelain and look back to admire the results of your efforts on the porcelain throne.
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I have tried that several times when eating borscht.
Pissing red/orange and crapping a dark violet.
Not just any old drab orange or violet. Really beautiful colors. My wife just walked into my office, picked up my glass of juice, and took a swig. The look on her face was priceless.

Wife, "I thought you said this was pomegranate juice!"

Me, "I switched to beet juice a couple of days ago. Do you like it?"

Wife, "No!"

She probably doesn't want to hear about psychedelic bodily functions.
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