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Old 04-10-2019, 07:43 AM   #726
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Since the education system is socialist, I guess we know who's to blame for having a poor one.
There is a misconception, cynically exploited by those promoting socialism, that anything done by government is "socialism." The frauds who push this lie point to such things as road building, sewers, the military, education, etc., and claim they are "socialism." The ridiculousness of that assertion is easily demonstrated. Classical Rome built roads, provided sewer and water, had a first-class military, and held public seminars. So, by the logic people like phrodeau espouse, even the Roman Empire was a socialist state!

Getting back to reality, there are certain traditional roles of government that have nothing to do with socialism. These tend to include national defense; civil safety (i.e., police and fire fighting); and public health (sewer and water, garbage collection, etc.). Education has become one of these, but experience is beginning to show that is better served by the private sector. Likewise, even nearly universally employed resources like electricity and natural gas have been better served by privately held utilities.

The significant thing about the traditional roles of government is that they can be provided without government taking significant roles of people's lives or particularly limiting their freedom. One of the problems with socialism is that the areas of people's lives it starts to "serve," like healthcare, childcare, retirement, employment, etc., give government the excuse, and eventually the financial need, to make life decisions for its citizens.
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Old 04-10-2019, 11:08 AM   #727
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Tweeting is free speech. Holding GM accountable for closing one of it's factories was an initiative to save jobs. Didn't Obama get involve with clean energy initiatives like Solyndra and others. In many cases they defaulted on their loans and left americans holding the bag.
And does any of that sound like your free "marker" capitalism? Sounds like an awful lot of that evil government getting involved to me.

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No it isn't. You're a racist. You got owned hard. You tried to deflect and you got destroyed. Sad day for racist dawn.
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Old 04-10-2019, 01:51 PM   #728
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You got owned hard.
Have you any clue how offensively racist it is for you to make a statement that someone was owned? Serious. Do you listen to your own words? Can you imagine how that term came about and how offensive it is to people like me who actually do have ancestors that were "owned" as slaves?

You want to call names, fine. Even call us all racist because you don't agree with us. Whatever. Life's too short to care about that.

Stop using the "owned" term. THAT, if anything, is racist.
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Old 04-10-2019, 02:15 PM   #729
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Have you any clue how offensively racist it is for you to make a statement that someone was owned? Serious. Do you listen to your own words? Can you imagine how that term came about and how offensive it is to people like me who actually do have ancestors that were "owned" as slaves?

You want to call names, fine. Even call us all racist because you don't agree with us. Whatever. Life's too short to care about that.

Stop using the "owned" term. THAT, if anything, is racist.

The left lunes on this site and in general preach this identity politics. If you're one of conservative views you're a racist, the N word, piece of shit, baby killer or the classic name ' TRUMPETTE. The liberals who preach tolerance are themselves the most intolerant of any point of view that differs from theirs. Their contrarian views are so outlandish it's beyond believable. The use of the word racist for the sake of using it diminishes from the true meaning.
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Old 04-10-2019, 03:11 PM   #730
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Oh free market! I see. Now another question: is the market free if it can be manipulated by say a tweet from the President or say the President personally getting involved in a company's business decision?
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Since the education system is socialist, I guess we know who's to blame for having a poor one.
It is?

When did we eliminate private schools??

Oh look....phro has no fucking clue what socialism is.

Surprise surprise.
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Old 04-10-2019, 03:14 PM   #731
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Revenge of the racist alt!
Hello dawn's alts! You racists sure get up early!

Bot says that a market is still "free" if it can be manipulated by the President. Great good to know where you stand on that. Let's try this out: if the President says that a company he doesn't like can't do something is that a free market?

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Old 04-10-2019, 03:28 PM   #732
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Bot says that a market is still "free" if it can be manipulated by the President.
Personally (your word) then yes. It is.

Because that market can still tell him to kick rocks.

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Great good to know where you stand on that. Let's try this out: if the President says that a company he doesn't like can't do something is that a free market?
Is he applying the authority of his office to stop them?

No? Then he can say whatever he wants, market is still free.
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Old 04-11-2019, 04:15 AM   #733
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Hello dawn's alts! You racists sure get up early
Don't ever take up poker as a hobby. At least not expecting to win!

You are way too predictable.
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Old 04-11-2019, 06:40 AM   #734
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There is a misconception
No it isn't....
So, dan_c00000, just so we understand your reasoning, you are contending that every government that builds roads, provides sewer and water, has a military, and funds education is socialist?
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Old 04-11-2019, 03:35 PM   #735
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Is he applying the authority of his office to stop them?
You didn't read the link. Trump tried doing that and yet. Not a peep from you. In fact, when the big banks do anything terrible not a peep from you. Like when the banks rigged LIBOR you said....nothing.

So it's only when Obama wanted to do something that's when it's socialism. Bot your racism is showing, again.

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Don't ever take up poker as a hobby. You are way too predictable.
Trump and I play 5-D chess! So predictable that you walked right into my trap. Quick, behind you!

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So, dan_c00000, just so we understand your reasoning, you are contending that every government that builds roads, provides sewer and water, has a military, and funds education is socialist?
Oh racist dawn. I don't answer questions from racists sorry!
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Old 04-11-2019, 11:12 PM   #736
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You didn't read the link.
I asked you a question, don't be scared, it's your scenario.

Is he applying the authority of his office to stop them?

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Trump tried doing that and yet. Not a peep from you.
Because he didn't.

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In fact, when the big banks do anything terrible not a peep from you.
Your point?

Why would I bitch?

Banks just like any other bidnizz should be allowed to be terrible.

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Because I don't care.

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So it's only when Obama wanted to do something that's when it's socialism.
No.

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Bot your racism is showing, again.
Your delusions are showing, again.
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Old 04-12-2019, 06:07 AM   #737
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So, dan_c00000, just so we understand your reasoning, you are contending that every government that builds roads, provides sewer and water, has a military, and funds education is socialist?
Oh racist dawn. I don't answer questions from racists sorry!
You mean, you can't respond to, or with, logical arguments that actually address the subject of debate.

How transparent.
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Old 04-12-2019, 09:46 AM   #738
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I asked you a question
I don't answer questions from racists. Sorry.

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You mean
I mean I don't answer questions from racists.

Sorry guys. I just don't answer questions from racists. It's very simple really. I ask questions you, the racists, answers them. You can ask questions of me sure, but, on principle, I don't answer questions from racists. If you want me to answer your questions stop being racist.

And in dawn's case "she" needs to also stop hating Jews, the poor, homosexuals, and transsexuals.
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Old 04-12-2019, 11:54 AM   #739
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I don't answer questions from racists. Sorry.

You're the only racist here.

And you don't answer questions because you CAN'T.

I knew you were a coward.
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Old 04-12-2019, 01:32 PM   #740
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I'm a racist.
You're very triggered today. Very triggered. Perhaps you're in need of another rage quit? Remember when I made you rage quit and you cried real hard to your mom? That was a rough day for you buddy. You want an ice cream?
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Old 04-12-2019, 05:15 PM   #741
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You're the only racist here.

And you don't answer questions because you CAN'T.

I knew you were a coward.
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Well stated, as always. I know I come across as being racist but really, it's just my anger getting the best of me. I've never really grown up. I mean, come on. I'm a grown man, well, maybe man-child, and yet I still live with my parents. My best friend is my right hand and the web cam. What else can I do with all the unresolved anger but lash out senselessly at people that I'd rather be fellating?
Dan, don't be ashamed of the fellatio desires. I struggled with that myself for years but if you just give yourself over to it, it's really a lot of fun. I mean that.

The other stuff, living with your folks... the anger issues... you really should work on that. You're going to be retirement age before another democrat makes it to the Presidency and without the well intentioned but feeble minded Bernie's of the world to live off of, you're going to have to cowboy up and get a job...
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Old 04-13-2019, 02:06 AM   #742
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You're very triggered today. Very triggered. Perhaps you're in need of another rage quit? Remember when I made you rage quit and you cried real hard to your mom? That was a rough day for you buddy. You want an ice cream?
Right down to acting like a 5 year old again.
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Old 04-14-2019, 05:57 AM   #743
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And in dawn's case she needs to also stop hating Jews, the poor, homosexuals, and transsexuals.
LOL!

Please, show me one example, just one, where I show any bigotry against each of the groups you mention there.

Meanwhile, even CNN admits that 94% of taxpayers win under these tax reforms.
The vast majority of American tax filers -- more than 65% -- will see their overall tax burden decrease by at least $100, according to the congressional Joint Committee on Taxation....

Slightly less than 30% of filers will see very little change in their tax liability and a small percentage, about 6%, will see an increase.
Z. Wolf, Here's who's winning under Trump's tax law, CNN (Apr. 13, 2019), citing The Joint Committee on Taxation, Distributional Effects Of Public Law 115-97 (Mar. 25, 2019).

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Old 04-15-2019, 11:06 AM   #744
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I'm a triggered racist.
Yup. I triggered your alt too. When's racist "joe" going to show up?

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I got busted as bot's alt and an anti-Semite.
Sorry, I also don't do requests from proven racists and anti-Semites. Again if you want me to answer questions you have to stop being a racist.
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Old 04-15-2019, 11:24 AM   #745
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Yup. I triggered your alt too. When's racist "joe" going to show up?



Sorry, I also don't do requests from proven racists and anti-Semites. Again if you want me to answer questions you have to stop being a racist.
If everyone is a racist who are you going to argue with?
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Old 04-15-2019, 11:32 AM   #746
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If everyone is a racist who are you going to argue with?
He doesn't actually know how to debate and if he did, he's on the losing side anyway. So he decals anybody that disagrees with him a racist and refuses to talk with them.
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Old 04-15-2019, 12:13 PM   #747
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If everyone is a racist who are you going to argue with?
Dan doesn't have the mental capacity for arguing.

He just types "RACIST!!" any time he gets cornered with his stupidity and thinks that's a win.
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Old 04-15-2019, 03:25 PM   #748
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Dan owned me and unmaksed my alts.
I sure did racist! Hey, racists, anytime you've got something non-racist to say let me know. Until then, enjoy your Klan rally!

By the way it's pretty obvious I'm undefeated in this thread so I'm only going to reply in pictures because I've decided racist bot, dawn, etc. don't even deserves to read my glorious words.
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GOP bombarded by furious taxpayers after promotion of Trump’s tax cut hilariously backfires

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The Republican Party on Monday tried to celebrate Tax Day by touting the purported effectiveness of its signature tax cut — but they were quickly hit with blowback from angry taxpayers.

In a tweet posted early Monday morning, the GOP boasted that its tax cuts “have put money back into the pockets of hardworking Americans so that they can spend it on things that actually matter to them and their families.”

However, many angry Americans shot back at the GOP and said they’d been stunned to find that they actually owed the government money after the IRS put too much money in their paychecks as a way to juice the economy.

Additionally, many people pointed to polls showing that the majority of Americans don’t believe they got any kind of tax cut whatsoever.
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