In State of the Union, Obama to return to jobs and the economy

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Anybody want to guess how many of the four men mentioned here did what is being claimed?
 
Anybody want to guess how many of the four men mentioned here did what is being claimed?

Well, I know Hitler didn't confiscate guns from the Germans. Except maybe from the Jews, but he confiscated everything from the Jews.
 
You don't have a fucking clue about Vietnam and what happened there. When the enemy decides to dress as civilians and fight from villages and towns those collateral casualties are impossible to avoid. Talk to me no more about what I lived for three years.

Tell us again about those two Navy Crosses you wear on Veterans Day, Mr. Stolen Valor.
 
The treaty of Versailles took away the German people's guns. Then Hitler came along and loosened up gun laws.

Only for his band of assholes....the persecuted were very much disarmed.

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Notice...your all mighty benevolent gubbmint entity is the ONLY ONE WITH GUNS....I highly doubt the would have gone into their death camps so willingly had they also had MP40's.
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And again....you know what I have NEVER seen a picture of a jew on his or her way to a gas chamber with a rifle in his or her hand....HAVE YOU???:confused:

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Oh wait that's not the germans.....kinda confusing, yes merc...only the man on the left should have a right to defend himself, and his big boss superiors too...except they just hire more guys like him to do the dirty work for him while he stands up there and preaches how EVIL guns are. The peons aren't worthy of it....
 
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Hitler loosened up gun laws for the German people, not just for his party members. When he was taking rights from Jews I'm sure he made it illegal for them to have guns.

So... How is that like Obama?
 
Hitler loosened up gun laws for the German people, not just for his party members. When he was taking rights from Jews I'm sure he made it illegal for them to have guns.

Is that not what the fuck I said? Can you not read?

I didn't say anything about his party affiliation Mr.Partisan lemming "DEFEND THE LEFT AT ALL COST, ITS NEVER WRONG!!"

Fucking right he disarmed them.....everyone but his people...I wonder why??

Did I say shit about Obama? No...b/c he's a bitch and will NEVER even try and disarm the US citizenry. A fucking rifle accessories ban? Oh noes good thing all my
ULTRA DEADLY adjustable stocks and bayonet lugs are grandfathered in.

Even if they confiscated "assault rifles" I would just change out the stock/grip and dremmel off that scary as fuck bayonet lug you fuck wad lefty morons are so scared of...badda bing badda bang...

Your gun control proposals are fucking retarded....they have failed epicly in the past...and I guarantee you they will fail again.

Next massacre...I got 20 bucks says it happens in a lefty supported "Gun free zone" under an assault weapons ban, odds are like 99% in my favor....care to take that bet?
 
Is that not what the fuck I said? Can you not read?

I didn't say anything about his party affiliation Mr.Partisan lemming "DEFEND THE LEFT AT ALL COST, ITS NEVER WRONG!!"

Fucking right he disarmed them.....everyone but his people...I wonder why??

Did I say shit about Obama? No...b/c he's a bitch and will NEVER even try and disarm the US citizenry. A fucking rifle accessories ban? Oh noes good thing all my
ULTRA DEADLY adjustable stocks and bayonet lugs are grandfathered in.

Even if they confiscated "assault rifles" I would just change out the stock/grip and dremmel off that scary as fuck bayonet lug you fuck wad lefty morons are so scared of...badda bing badda bang...

Your gun control proposals are fucking retarded....they have failed epicly in the past...and I guarantee you they will fail again.

Next massacre...I got 20 bucks says it happens in a lefty supported "Gun free zone" under an assault weapons ban, odds are like 99% in my favor....care to take that bet?


I was responding to someone who said Obama is like Hitler on the issue of gun control. Then you responded by saying Hitler only loosened up gun laws for his band of assholes, which was incorrect. Not every German citizen was a Nazi.
 
I was responding to someone who said Obama is like Hitler on the issue of gun control. Then you responded by saying Hitler only loosened up gun laws for his band of assholes, which was incorrect.

Oh so he allowed everyone to have them right? Not just his band of assholes, the groups he approved of? It was an "inalienable" right for everyone at the time to pack amirite?

Where are all these armed jews and romanians and all the other's he persecuted into gas chambers????

When the fuck did that happen? :confused:

I want proof, he did what he did without disarming the people he slaughtered by the millions. Same for the rest of them...
 
Oh so he allowed everyone to have them right? Not just his band of assholes, the groups he approved of? It was an "inalienable" right for everyone at the time to pack amirite?

Where are all these equally armed jews and romanians and all the other's he persecuted into gas chambers????

When the fuck did that happen? :confused:

I want proof, he did what he did without disarming the people he slaughtered by the millions.

My point is that comparing Obama to Hitler is absurd.
 
My point is that comparing Obama to Hitler is absurd.

It is....but disarming a population is still disarming a population, and you are going to have a MOTHER FUCKER of a time persecuting 130 million AR owners.

Disarmed? 100% at the mercy of the state....the greatest killer of human life throughout history....would not stand a mother fucking chance in hell. The disturbing part? No one ever see's it coming, because you trust your government don't you?? They would never lie.....
 
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It is....but disarming a population is still disarming a population, and you are going to have a MOTHER FUCKER of a time persecuting 130 million AR owners.

Disarmed? 100% at the mercy of the state....the greatest killer of human life throughout history.


Black helicopters bro.
 
Black helicopters bro.

I know I know...gubbmint is 100% benevolent and trustworthy right merc? They would NEVER lie to us.I have herd that before......ahh from these fine people.
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They trusted their government too....but I'm just paranoid :)
 
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I just said they were fun as hell dumb shit, can you not fucking read? How the fuck did you become an MD??:confused:

It doesn't matter what you typed. It's in the back of your mind that you might need to fight the US government. You're scared.
 
It doesn't matter what you typed. It's in the back of your mind that you might need to fight the US government. You're scared.

Man I got over being scared of fighting a long fucking time ago bro...unlike your soft ass I have been there...repeatedly....and even if they did I seriously doubt our hyper gun loving military personnel would be willing to go out and kill a few hundred million Americans for your gun ban dreams. The odds will be at LEAST 10-1 in my favor....and if I get taken out I get taken out......not a fucking thing will change it or prevent it, everyone has to die. Besides you never hear the round that get's you anyhow.
 
Man I got over being scared of fighting a long fucking time ago bro...unlike your soft ass I have been there...repeatedly....and even if they did I seriously doubt our hyper gun loving military personnel would be willing to go out and kill a few hundred million Americans for your gun ban dreams. The odds will be at LEAST 10-1 in my favor....and if I get taken out I get taken out......not a fucking thing will change it or prevent it, everyone has to die. Besides you never hear the round that get's you anyhow.


You don't know where I've been.

I don't think you're afraid of combat particularly. I think you're afraid of the US government coming to get you though. Otherwise you wouldn't be having these fantasies about fighting it.
 
You don't know where I've been.

I don't think you're afraid of combat particularly. I think you're afraid of the US government coming to get you though. Otherwise you wouldn't be having these fantasies about fighting it.

No I don't..but you're a POG, a mental health POG....who pushes pens and wears nice clean uniforms every day.

Fantasies? Dude my fantasies include hanging out on my ranch house growing weed and blowing shit up all day. But my job in the Army was to systematically dismantle and overthrow governments/regimes through force multipliers and maximum attrition/minimal risk tactics.....guerrilla warfare. The US gov should it get bat shit cray cray would be no different than any other and there are many tens of thousands just like me, and we are all on the terrorist watch list for that very fucking reason before the ink on our DD214 is even dry.

The gov knows...they trained us all...and it scares the mother fucking shit out of them. ;)
 
If the market was a true indication of national economic viability anymore unemployment would be back below 5% and we'd all be rolling in the clover. Why aren't we?

First I'd direct you to the price of gold. Gold hasn't all of a sudden attained new found value. Gold produces nothing, creates no jobs, does no investing, and it's not a consumable. The best way to look at gold is to assume that the value of gold is constant and that the only variable is the amount of any given currency that is required to buy any measure of the commodity. Therefore the rise in the price of gold is more a measure of the erosion of the value of the dollar than any particular increase in the value of gold.

By extension this holds true for the markets as well. The rise in the markets is as much a reflection of the erosion of the value of the dollar than it is any particular value of any given stock. Further there has been a significant decline in market volumes. What this reflects is the degree to which institutional traders are driving the trades. The little guy has mostly evaporated from the markets. I will hasten to point out that these institutional traders are the very ones that received taxpayer funded bailouts AND the very ones that damn near caused the collapse of the economy to begin with. Obama's policies and remedies not only did nothing to restore any market balance, they have essentially perpetuated that which brought us to our knees to begin with. The bills passed that were to allegedly make a rehash of 2008 impossible to occur again merely formed an unholy alliance between the 10 largest financial houses and the Fed. thereby insuring that any future hiccups in the financial sector will be bailed out by the taxpayer. Given the above situation is it any wonder that the financial houses are reporting record profits with absolutely nothing happening in the general economy?

In spite of the rise in the markets there has been NO translation of that wealth, if you care to call it that, into the real metrics of the economy, ie. jobs and GDP growth.

The markets are no longer a true reflection of the overall economy and without some serious changes in the law and policy never will be again.

Ishmael

The market is the only thing he has.

He must cling to it.
 
It is easier fro the FED to push mkts up and HOPE it translates into better economic growth

Then it is for the FED to re-ignite the economy, given the headwinds of bamaCo


It is sorta ironic how the LIBZ tout the mkt performance yet do all they can to demonize the peeps in the mkts and do all they can to stifle it

Remember when Obama was going to win, the market was tanking and all merc could talk about was how that was a meaningless indicator?
 
Why should there be any surprise? Indeed, why is there even the need to write a paper about it?

The top 1% got the bailout at the taxpayer's expense. The bottom 47% got welfare of one sort or another, and everyone else got the shaft.

Ishmael

That is what I pointed out in the thread devoted to this isolated cherry of economics, that inflations benefit those closest to it and destroy the working man.
 
the point is actually this

those that bleat about the mkt......in a real economy, a rising tide lifts ALL boats, in a manipulated FED STIMULATED mkt bubble the yachts are lifted and used to pummel the little people


ALL polls showed, 80% of peeps believed Romneny economic ideas were better then WhoSane's, yet WhoSane was seen as MORE CARING!!!!!!!!!!

ABSURD how the DUMB ONES RUN MY COUNTRY NOW!


Lets ignore ideas...........WE NEEDA TALK BOTTLED WATER

ABSURD!

They practice the sophism of the Broken Window and with Socialism, it is even worse for they only see what they want to see, let alone looking out on the horizon for the ripple effects. They do the same thing with abortion, guns, any big topic; the big feel good outweighs the long-term harm, and in fact, the long-term harm gives them even more reason to cry for more government.
 
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