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CinC Trump Bans Transgenders In The Military
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What exactly would that be?
Here? LOL it's the GB man. What's respect worth on the GB anyhow??
Either I'm a D/R and I get respect from one circle jerk or another OR I'm neither and shit on both houses as an ideologue instead of a partisan and I get the respect of a handful, worth an occasional "Fuck yea!!" PM.
IRL, depends on who you ask as with most people.
The difference is IRL I have to live with it....I don't have to live with lit so I don't have to bite my tongue and be friendly/political and pick sides.
Between CA and the IRS I paid almost 8x that salary in taxes for 2016, so it's more of a tax break than a salary most of which has gone to help other vets who can't hustle. I did live on it for a bit right after I got out and through the first two years or so of school...so I can't say all and I appreciate that, it made my amazing life happen at least a few years sooner than it would have had I not had it.
So thanks from both me and the 4 guys I keep off the streets with it, I hope one day if you need it the VA or another vet like myself will be there to help you.
You're a buffoon.. That's what you've become. You prance around here saying the most idiotic things. You've become vette, miles, forest and ish. Your views on this subject are fuckin ridiculous, along with the Healthcare where "fuck it, I'll pay cash" is your answer.. Planned parenthood.. The list goes on, I'm sure. I don't pay any more attention than that, but none is needed.
I didn't know you could retire from the military getting blown up in basic training, but you schooled me there.. And seriously you expect to be believed about your tax bill? Come on..a better lie would have made more sense.
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Stay near that ignore button, there is a whole string of them and you've only seen a few so far.
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The Pentagon responds to Trump's tweet.
Joint Chiefs: 'No modifications' to transgender policy from Trump tweet
There will be “no modifications” to the military’s transgender policy as a result of President Donald Trump’s declared ban on transgender men and women on Twitter, the chairman of the joint chiefs said in a message to top military officers on Thursday — the latest sign of the disarray following the commander in chief's abrupt announcement.
Marine Gen. Joe Dunford also wrote in the message, which was sent to the chiefs of the military branches and senior enlisted leaders, that the military will continue to “treat all of our personnel with respect.”
http://www.politico.com/story/2017/07/27/trump-transgender-military-ban-no-modification-241029
Joint Chiefs: 'No modifications' to transgender policy from Trump tweet
There will be “no modifications” to the military’s transgender policy as a result of President Donald Trump’s declared ban on transgender men and women on Twitter, the chairman of the joint chiefs said in a message to top military officers on Thursday — the latest sign of the disarray following the commander in chief's abrupt announcement.
Marine Gen. Joe Dunford also wrote in the message, which was sent to the chiefs of the military branches and senior enlisted leaders, that the military will continue to “treat all of our personnel with respect.”
http://www.politico.com/story/2017/07/27/trump-transgender-military-ban-no-modification-241029
this is FAKE NEWS
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STFU, jewbeard.
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Sorry I'm a liberty loving capitalist and not a control freak socialist.
Most of those things I don't usually mention my own views, just ridicule others for theirs and you assume I'm whatever opposite (usually R) flavor you want to ascribe me.
My views on the transgender issue is that they should be able to serve as long as the meet all the same standards, physical fitness standards being relevant should be according to biological sex not psychological identity standards. Combat arms still rockin' a high and tight...no long hair.
You can't
you're just wrong. And you're still wrong....why do you think it's so hard to make money?? My soil yard is killing it man...sold almost 3 million bucks worth of shit this year so far. Yep, I sell cow shit, worm shit, fish shit and fungal wood chip compost. Plus I own some property around they bay area which brings in an upper middle class income on it's own.
You want to know what the hardest part of making good money is?
Getting permission from the federal and California government to do so.
Thankfully I got a world class training in how to work US bureaucracy from Army life and VA bullshit, it's been the single most valuable skill I picked up in the military by far.
Making money is easy.....getting your shit together so the man doesn't come fuck you up for it isn't. As a business owner, especially one in agriculture and waste management, the government is my biggest fucking enemy...number 1 threat.
Try looking at politics through that lens if you can, and my shit will not sound crazy to you.
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There will be no modification because trannies were always banned. The Obama administration said they "lifted" the ban but there was a waiting period. The waiting period is over, ban will not be lifted, nothing has changed. They couldn' serve before, and can't serve now.
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N_M1 seems to think the tail wags the dog.
It's a done deal once the forms are filled out.
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There's a subtle difference between being "banned" and not permitted to serve while being openly transgender.
You're full of shit.
People that stupid are walking disasters. It makes me wonder how they manage to make it through the day without accidentally killing themselves.
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Think you can manage to "fight the violence of lies with the clenched fist of truth," like the NRA wants you to do? Or are you going to continue to wield the wet slap of petulance and insults?
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He didn't consult with our Generals or Department of Defense. He's just a liar.
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Let's put aside for a moment the fact that the Donald wants to ban gays and transgenders from the military. If you're going to come up with a policy like this, what's the first thing you should do? Talk to your Secretary Of Defense of course! And then you get it figured out and set down before you make an announcement. But what did the Donald do? Waited until his SOD was gone then tweeted a stupid ass tweet in the middle of the night about this. None of you (Ish, AJ, Et al) see a problem with that do you?
The day they announced he had won the election a chill ran down my spine. If one of the other conservative candidates had taken the nomination and won the election, I would have been disappointed but wouldn't have the ominous feeling of doom I had when the Donald did. And today it got worse.
Anthony Scaramucci.....really? The Donald is really going to use him as the white house communications director? He acts like a thug off the streets of New York, has not one bit of fineness or manners and the Donald is going to turn him loose on us? The only thing that bringing him on as communication director tells me is that my assessment of the Donald as being mentally unstable is totally and utterly true.
Which brings me to my second shock of the day: Admiral Scott Swift commander of the U.S. Pacific Fleet.
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...But the head of the largest fleet in the U.S. Navy, Admiral Scott Swift, was quick to swear his loyalty to the commander-in-chief Thursday, to the point that the admiral said he would hypothetically follow the president’s orders to launch a nuclear missile at China.
“The answer would be: yes,” said Swift, the commander of the U.S. Pacific Fleet, when asked a question during an Australian National University security conference in the Australian capital, Canberra, the AP reported...
https://uk.news.yahoo.com/trump-asked-d-nuke-china-144211256.html
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The shock isn't that Admiral Swift would follow those orders, it's that he sees it as his duty to comply and wouldn't even hesitate, even though the most mentally unstable president we have ever had, a child in a mans body, has his finger on that button.
Now I know I'm going to get all kinds of bullshit explanations, finger pointing and attempts to tell me it would never happen because of this that and the other. But stop and think, isn't that what almost everyone said about the presidential election, that Trump would NEVER be elected?
If this doesn't scare you, you are either:1) Brain dead, 2) Stupid to the point of being brain dead, 3) have lied to yourself so much you can't see the truth if it dropped a nuke on you.
I'm done.
comshaw
The day they announced he had won the election a chill ran down my spine. If one of the other conservative candidates had taken the nomination and won the election, I would have been disappointed but wouldn't have the ominous feeling of doom I had when the Donald did. And today it got worse.
Anthony Scaramucci.....really? The Donald is really going to use him as the white house communications director? He acts like a thug off the streets of New York, has not one bit of fineness or manners and the Donald is going to turn him loose on us? The only thing that bringing him on as communication director tells me is that my assessment of the Donald as being mentally unstable is totally and utterly true.
Which brings me to my second shock of the day: Admiral Scott Swift commander of the U.S. Pacific Fleet.
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...But the head of the largest fleet in the U.S. Navy, Admiral Scott Swift, was quick to swear his loyalty to the commander-in-chief Thursday, to the point that the admiral said he would hypothetically follow the president’s orders to launch a nuclear missile at China.
“The answer would be: yes,” said Swift, the commander of the U.S. Pacific Fleet, when asked a question during an Australian National University security conference in the Australian capital, Canberra, the AP reported...
https://uk.news.yahoo.com/trump-asked-d-nuke-china-144211256.html
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The shock isn't that Admiral Swift would follow those orders, it's that he sees it as his duty to comply and wouldn't even hesitate, even though the most mentally unstable president we have ever had, a child in a mans body, has his finger on that button.
Now I know I'm going to get all kinds of bullshit explanations, finger pointing and attempts to tell me it would never happen because of this that and the other. But stop and think, isn't that what almost everyone said about the presidential election, that Trump would NEVER be elected?
If this doesn't scare you, you are either:1) Brain dead, 2) Stupid to the point of being brain dead, 3) have lied to yourself so much you can't see the truth if it dropped a nuke on you.
I'm done.
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They don't care because they are liars who love to worship bigger liars.
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The admiral is correct, that the military MUST be under civilian control. But he (and all USA military) are only bound to obey LAWFUL orders. Will he decide that an end-of-the-world order is legitimate?
BTW Comshaw, your font specification make your texts very difficult to read with my fading eyes. I must now skip most of what you post. Please think of not using the SMALL tag. Thanks!
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The 'suicide rate' argument is fundamentally flawed on a number of grounds. But let's just go with that logic for a moment. In the US, men are 3-5 more likely to commit suicide than women. So I guess we should also exclude men from military service?
Recent research is pretty clearly demonstrating that issues like suicide are higher among the trans population because of discrimination and marginalisation, not something that's inherent to being trans. 'Discrimination and marginalisation' would include things ... like, hmmm? ... maybe excluding a particular group from serving in the military?
Recent research is pretty clearly demonstrating that issues like suicide are higher among the trans population because of discrimination and marginalisation, not something that's inherent to being trans. 'Discrimination and marginalisation' would include things ... like, hmmm? ... maybe excluding a particular group from serving in the military?
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On a positive note: that would solve anthropogenic global warming, no?
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Wow, who knew that Benedict Arnold and David H. Petraeus were trans?
Ah, I see, it was all because of trans people in serving in the military.
Go back and read my post. I said "provide some evidence for your BS., not, "Provide some more BS"
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BTW - What's your opinion of Snowden?
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When the Snowden - Manning affair surfaced, I was caught in the universal elation and saw them as american patriots and heroes. (And I still believe that Manning made his revelations with good intentions - he was just misguided and didn't realize the potential harm of his actions.)
But re Snowden - I started wondering in time whether he had a different agenda than the stated one (to protect american citizens from being spied on by their own govt.) Because:
--- His revelations re NSA spying on US citizens amounted to nothing. It was simply explained: cause terrorists. So was that just a red herring?
-- Most importantly, most of his later revelations were about US foreign issues that could have been detrimental to the US.
Plus the way he flew + was granted asylum by Russia was very strange.
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No matter how many times we demonstrate that transgenders will operating under the same rules as they always have, they keep acting like this is a new ban and they are so full of hate for Trump that they refuse to accept reality when presented with the facts.
And the next issue that is going to get this same treatment is the EPSs decision not to act on Obama's takeover of every drop of water that touches the ground and isn't absorbed into the ground...
We're going to be inundated with cries about how Trump wants dirty water and dead fish.
And the next issue that is going to get this same treatment is the EPSs decision not to act on Obama's takeover of every drop of water that touches the ground and isn't absorbed into the ground...
We're going to be inundated with cries about how Trump wants dirty water and dead fish.
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