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What the F!

Donald Trump laments he's 'not supposed' to influence DOJ, FBI

For all those who insist there is "no evidence" Trump wants to be an autocrat.

"The saddest thing is that because I'm the President of the United States, I am not supposed to be involved with the Justice Department," Trump said. "I am not supposed to be involved with the FBI."

"I'm very unhappy with it that the Justice Department isn't going," Trump said. "I am not supposed to be doing the kind of things that I would love to be doing. And I am very frustrated by it."
 
Doggonnit! Just because he is head of the Executive branch, he can't violate the law.
 
President Trump Committed Another Impeachable Offense on Friday
He’s racking them up.
Trump followed up these tweets with statements to the press in which he said he is “disappointed” with the Justice Department and would not rule out firing Attorney General Jeff Sessions if Sessions won’t investigate Democrats... Trump’s tweets tiptoed right up to the line of an impeachable offense. His subsequent statements to the press stepped firmly over it.
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What, his minions won't bust his enemies? Pretty useless minions, for sure. You're fired!
 
JackLuis said:
Why not? 'W' Did.
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So did Thomas Jefferson. He didn't exactly tell Congress when he sent off Lewis and Clark to quadruple the size of the United States, or even when he did, tell them honestly why.
 
Hypoxia said:
President Trump Committed Another Impeachable Offense on Friday
He’s racking them up. What, his minions won't bust his enemies? Pretty useless minions, for sure. You're fired!
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First, I place no credence in Slate.

Second, an impeachable offense is whatever the H of R says it is. If a member wanted to, he or she could begin articles of impeachment against Trump for picking his nose or for dying or combing over his hair. I doubt that anybody ever would, because such a thing would be silly, but they could.

Outside that, what makes you think Trump has done anything impeachable? Is the writer of that article even close to being qualified to say? :confused:
 
Boxlicker101 said:
First, I place no credence in Slate.

Second, an impeachable offense is whatever the H of R says it is. If a member wanted to, he or she could begin articles of impeachment against Trump for picking his nose or for dying or combing over his hair. I doubt that anybody ever would, because such a thing would be silly, but they could.

Outside that, what makes you think Trump has done anything impeachable? Is the writer of that article even close to being qualified to say? :confused:
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I agree that it would be silly to impeach Trump for dying.
 
phrodeau said:
I agree that it would be silly to impeach Trump for dying.
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Naw. Let's give him a couple of kicks in the ribs after he's dead too. Or we could do a Mussolini on him--hang his body upside down from a steel girder above a gas station for several days.
 
sr71plt said:
Naw. Let's give him a couple of kicks in the ribs after he's dead too. Or we could do a Mussolini on him--hang his body upside down from a steel girder above a gas station for several days.
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Then all the little demonoid creatures inside him will fall out and run off to infest others. No, a bonfire is best, a really YUUGE funeral pyre, set on his yacht. Or just toss him into an active volcano. But otherwise, no physical traces. I mean, pissing on Nixon's grave was fun, but Tromp's in a whole 'nother league.
 
Hypoxia said:
Then all the little demonoid creatures inside him will fall out and run off to infest others. No, a bonfire is best, a really YUUGE funeral pyre, set on his yacht. Or just toss him into an active volcano. But otherwise, no physical traces. I mean, pissing on Nixon's grave was fun, but Tromp's in a whole 'nother league.
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Trump will want Russian prostitutes to do the pissing.
 
Boxlicker101 said:
Originally Posted by coati View Post

Doggonnit! Just because he is head of the Executive branch, he can't violate the law.



So did Clinton and Obama, and probably most presidents. :(
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Just to clarify:

Clinton lied under oath about getting a blow job, and was impeached (but not convicted).

No articles of impeachment nor a special counsel investigation were initiated against Obama.

Poor Donald thinks it's so unfair that he is not allowed to intervene in the Justice Department's investigation. I mean, those other dictators he emulates can do that, so why not him?
 
coati said:
Poor Donald thinks it's so unfair that he is not allowed to intervene in the Justice Department's investigation. I mean, those other dictators he emulates can do that, so why not him?
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His business background doesn't serve him well here. Federal officers may serve at the pleasure of POTUS but those confirmed by the Senate are not his private employees. Yes, he can fire them, but he can't order them. He can keep firing them until he finds someone who WILL obey orders, but good luck getting Senate confirmation.

The US Gov't ain't the Tromp Organization. Yet.
 
coati said:
Just to clarify:

Clinton lied under oath about getting a blow job, and was impeached (but not convicted).

No articles of impeachment nor a special counsel investigation were initiated against Obama.

Poor Donald thinks it's so unfair that he is not allowed to intervene in the Justice Department's investigation. I mean, those other dictators he emulates can do that, so why not him?
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To my knowledge, no articles of impeachment were ever filed against Obama, and a couple of nutcases have filed them against Trump. Everybody knows the latter aren't going anywhere; it's just grandstanding. However, Obama did break the law when, through his minions, he provided guns for Mexican criminals in what is called "Fast and Furious.". I suspect there were other examples.
 
Boxlicker101 said:
To my knowledge, no articles of impeachment were ever filed against Obama, and a couple of nutcases have filed them against Trump. Everybody knows the latter aren't going anywhere; it's just grandstanding. However, Obama did break the law when, through his minions, he provided guns for Mexican criminals in what is called "Fast and Furious.". I suspect there were other examples.
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What about when he bombed the shit of Libya, or sent guns into Syria to the ISIS factions, or droned the hell out of Yemen and killed Americans without judicial review? Or supported war criminals who tortured hundreds?
 
What is this peculiar idiocy where you go through excuse after convoluted excuse to ignore the criminality of Trump right before your eyes, but accept unquestioningly the stupidest conspiracy theories about Obama and Hillary.

That's how you know Faux News has ROTTED what's left of your brain.


Boxlicker101 said:
To my knowledge, no articles of impeachment were ever filed against Obama, and a couple of nutcases have filed them against Trump. Everybody knows the latter aren't going anywhere; it's just grandstanding. However, Obama did break the law when, through his minions, he provided guns for Mexican criminals in what is called "Fast and Furious.". I suspect there were other examples.
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Boxlicker101 said:
To my knowledge, no articles of impeachment were ever filed against Obama, and a couple of nutcases have filed them against Trump. Everybody knows the latter aren't going anywhere; it's just grandstanding. However, Obama did break the law when, through his minions, he provided guns for Mexican criminals in what is called "Fast and Furious.". I suspect there were other examples.
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The main point is in the first 12 words of your post, and this lack of judicial action against Obama took place during periods where the Republicans held a majority in the House, which is where articles of impeachment are drafted and acted upon.

In terms of ethics and honoring the separation between the Executive branch and the Judicial branches of government as outlined in the Constitution, Trump does not even hold a candle compared to Obama. The formerly sanctimonious Republicans, who impeached Bill Clinton for lying about his sex life, have apparently abandoned ethics.

We will see how Trump does regarding his ability to avoid judicial scrutiny while the Republicans hold both the House and the Senate. It is pretty telling that his election staff was subject to a special investigation only months into his first term.

I really miss having a President who was halfway sane and who respected the Constitution enough to avoid making so many stupid public statements about the Justice Department. Now we have a reality TV star who says, "I'm the only one who counts."
 
Carnal_Flower said:
What is this peculiar idiocy where you go through excuse after convoluted excuse to ignore the criminality of Trump right before your eyes, but accept unquestioningly the stupidest conspiracy theories about Obama and Hillary.

That's how you know Faux News has ROTTED what's left of your brain.
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Trump probably did break some laws before becoming POTUS, but I don't believe he has broken any since that time. If you actually know of any, tell me about them. As for Obama, there's no question he broke the law during what was called "Fast and Furious." There have probably been other times also. Hillary broke laws as Sec. of State in the way she processed highly classified info and the way she destroyed the evidence of her illegal activities. There were probably other laws she broke as a candidate for POTUS in 2008 and 2016, such as accepting political contributions from foreign countries, even though they may have been described as payment for speaking engagements.
 
Like I said, rotted brain


Boxlicker101 said:
Trump probably did break some laws before becoming POTUS, but I don't believe he has broken any since that time. If you actually know of any, tell me about them. As for Obama, there's no question he broke the law during what was called "Fast and Furious." There have probably been other times also. Hillary broke laws as Sec. of State in the way she processed highly classified info and the way she destroyed the evidence of her illegal activities. There were probably other laws she broke as a candidate for POTUS in 2008 and 2016, such as accepting political contributions from foreign countries, even though they may have been described as payment for speaking engagements.
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coati said:
The main point is in the first 12 words of your post, and this lack of judicial action against Obama took place during periods where the Republicans held a majority in the House, which is where articles of impeachment are drafted and acted upon.

In terms of ethics and honoring the separation between the Executive branch and the Judicial branches of government as outlined in the Constitution, Trump does not even hold a candle compared to Obama. The formerly sanctimonious Republicans, who impeached Bill Clinton for lying about his sex life, have apparently abandoned ethics.

We will see how Trump does regarding his ability to avoid judicial scrutiny while the Republicans hold both the House and the Senate. It is pretty telling that his election staff was subject to a special investigation only months into his first term.

I really miss having a President who was halfway sane and who respected the Constitution enough to avoid making so many stupid public statements about the Justice Department. Now we have a reality TV star who says, "I'm the only one who counts."
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There was talk of impeachment of Obama. http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/gop-back-impeachment-jail-time-obama However, I believe no formal action was ever taken, largely because it wouldn't have gone anywhere and would have been used against the House member as evidence of racism. There is no danger of this in the actions against Trump but they won't go anywhere either.

I get tired or hearing or reading that Clinton was impeached for lying about his sex life. Technically, this is true, but the true fact is that he was impeached for perjury, a felony and especially egregious for a member of the bar.

I am very familiar with the separation of powers, but I wonder if you are. Obama used to interfere with the Legislative Branch in passing laws by fiat and in ignoring the need for the advice and consent of the Senate in treaties with foreign powers, which is called for in the Constitution. He should not have been allowed to get away with this, but he did. In what way has Trump, the head of the Executive Branch, even attempted to interfere with either the Legislative or Judiciary Branch? :confused:

I am also interested in seeing If Trump avoids judicial scrutiny. So far, there has been none, and I expect this to continue.
 
Boxlicker101 said:
I am very familiar with the separation of powers, but I wonder if you are. Obama used to interfere with the Legislative Branch in passing laws by fiat and in ignoring the need for the advice and consent of the Senate in treaties with foreign powers, which is called for in the Constitution. He should not have been allowed to get away with this, but he did. In what way has Trump, the head of the Executive Branch, even attempted to interfere with either the Legislative or Judiciary Branch? :confused:

I am also interested in seeing If Trump avoids judicial scrutiny. So far, there has been none, and I expect this to continue.
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Trump has also issued executive orders, just as Obama did. For example, after the Republican-held branches of the legislature failed on numerous occasions to fulfill their seven-year pledge "to repeal and replace Obama-care", Trump issued executive orders to start dismantling this act of Congress on his own.

Regarding interference with the Judicial branch, he has frequently spoken about his need for "loyalty" from the FBI and from Jeff Sessions. He fired the former head of the FBI when this loyalty was not assured, stating that the investigation into Russian interference was unnecessary. He has stated that the Special Counsel and other special investigation groups should be investigating the staff of the losing candidate in the Presidential election, not his staff. He has already concluded that the Special Counsel's investigation is simply a "witch hunt". As the "law and order President", he pardoned the chief law enforcement officer in Maricopa Couinty, Arizona, before the trial was even completed for violation of a court order. Need I go on?
 
Boxlicker101 said:
Trump probably did break some laws before becoming POTUS, but I don't believe he has broken any since that time. If you actually know of any, tell me about them. As for Obama, [blah blah heywhataboutisms]
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Emoluments clauses. Firing Comey to obstruct justice. Aiding and abetting after receiving official notice of Russian interference. Those are off the top of my head. We can await the indictments.
 
Judicial / Law Enforcement

-Most recently, by trying to get the DOJ to lift a gag order on an FBI Informant because he believed it would hurt Clinton

-By harassing, stalking (calling; taking out to dinner and threatening; pressuring; asking for loyalty) and then firing James Comey YOU DUMB SHIT

-Firing Sally Yates and Preet Bahara not for cause but because they got too close to his criminality

--By personally interviewing U.S. attorney candidates, something no other Pres has ever done

--By demanding Rod Rosenstein write a letter justifying his firing of Comey, then ordering all his lackeys including Pence to tell the same lies (proven to be lies by his own interview with Lester Holt)

--By calling for law enforcement to be more violent when they arrest suspects

Congress

--Having Henchmen Steve Bannon threaten and harangue Members of the House (didn't work)

--Having Ryan Zinke threaten Lisa Murkowski (didn't work)

--By complaining in a Tweet that Congress itself was "an obstruction" and "needs to be rethought"

That's not even getting to his NUMEROUS tweets and interviews (too numerous to mention) where he complains, demeans, threatens, denounces, and attacks "so-called" judges and the judicial process (which he called a joke and a laughing stock), his own AG, and members of congress

Boxlicker101 said:
There was talk of impeachment of Obama. http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/gop-back-impeachment-jail-time-obama However, I believe no formal action was ever taken, largely because it wouldn't have gone anywhere and would have been used against the House member as evidence of racism. There is no danger of this in the actions against Trump but they won't go anywhere either.

I get tired or hearing or reading that Clinton was impeached for lying about his sex life. Technically, this is true, but the true fact is that he was impeached for perjury, a felony and especially egregious for a member of the bar.

I am very familiar with the separation of powers, but I wonder if you are. Obama used to interfere with the Legislative Branch in passing laws by fiat and in ignoring the need for the advice and consent of the Senate in treaties with foreign powers, which is called for in the Constitution. He should not have been allowed to get away with this, but he did. In what way has Trump, the head of the Executive Branch, even attempted to interfere with either the Legislative or Judiciary Branch? :confused:

I am also interested in seeing If Trump avoids judicial scrutiny. So far, there has been none, and I expect this to continue.
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Hypoxia said:
Emoluments clauses. Firing Comey to obstruct justice. Aiding and abetting after receiving official notice of Russian interference. Those are off the top of my head. We can await the indictments.
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The Emoluments Clause was enacted long ago to prevent gov. officials from accepting bribes from foreign countries. It was never intended to prevent anybody from continuing to operate ordinary businesses, such as hotels and casinos.

As the head of the FBI, Comey worked at the pleasure of the pres., and Trump fired him because of the patty-cake way he treated HRC. Whom was he aiding and abetting after receiving word of Russian interference and when did it happen and can you prove it?

Don't hold your breath waiting for the indictments.
 
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