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DO YOU ACCEPT JESUS GIFT OF SALVATION BELIEVING HE DIED N ROSE AGAIN FOR YOUR SINS?

  • YES

    Votes: 48 16.4%

  • NO

    Votes: 148 50.5%

  • I ALREADY ACCEPTED JESUS GIFT OF SALVATION BEFORE

    Votes: 62 21.2%

  • OTHER

    Votes: 35 11.9%
  • Total voters
    293
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Tryharder62 said:
I see what you're saying.

You switched from Peter to Paul,
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My bad. I blame late night, mixing up my P's.

My point remains that Saul/Paul (yeah, that guy) told his followers to assume any persona, do whatever it takes, to gain conversions, grab members. This is the Saul/Paul who never ever quoted Yeshua because he knew nothing of Yeshua's supposed words, A 'Marxist' who never quotes Marx; a 'Buddhist' who never quotes Buddha; a 'Muslim' who never recites Quran; these make for suspicious proselytizers. Same with Saul/Paul.

Leigh and Baigent in The Dead Sea Scrolls Deception lay out a good case for Saul/Paul as a Roman agent infiltrating the wing of the Jewish Revolt led by Hyman bir Miryam aka Yeshua's brother James. He defused that radical movement by organizing a church on hierarchal lines suitable to the Roman rulers, sucking-in many Jewish and other dissidents. Follow the politics.
 
jaF0 said:
What happened to Mary?

Oh yeah, she got knocked up by .... ummm ... Puff, The Magic Dragon .... yeah, that's it.
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A picture from that era showed a leggy blonde babe sitting on the side-by-side shoulders of two hulking black guys, BBCs for sure. The caption: PETER, PAUL, AND YOUR SISTER.

That Paul's real name is Noel, y'know. Noel/Paul; Saul/Paul; coincidence, or... ??
 
jaF0 said:
What happened to Mary?

Oh yeah, she got knocked up by .... ummm ... Puff, The Magic Dragon .... yeah, that's it.
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Q: Did you know that they had automobiles in Jesus' Time?
A: Yes, the Bible says the disciples were in one Accord.:D
 
Tryharder62 said:
Q: Did you know that they had automobiles in Jesus' Time?
A: Yes, the Bible says the disciples were in one Accord.:D
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Jeezuz don't drive no rice rocket.

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Surely there's religious incest porn in the world. If Jesus is the Son of God who is himself God, and God gave Mary her conception...
 
Richard_P_Feynman said:
Surely there's religious incest porn in the world. If Jesus is the Son of God who is himself God, and God gave Mary her conception...
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There's the scene in CHINATOWN where Jack Nicholson's character is confronting Faye Dunaway's character about the young woman in her house.
Dunaway: "She's my sister!"
Nicholson slaps her.
Dunaway: "She's my daughter!"
Nicholson slaps her again.
Dunaway: "She's my sister AND my daughter!"
Nicholson realizes she's been raped by her father, the John Huston character.​
Now envisage Roman agent, torturer, and death-squad leader Saul/Paul interrogating Miryam, mother of Yeshua, beloved of Lord {YHWH}.
Miryam: "He's my son!"
Saul/Paul slaps her.
Miryam: "He's his father!"
Saul/Paul slaps her again.
Miryam: "He's a ghost!"
Saul/Paul slaps her once more.
Miryam: "He's my son AND his father AND a ghost!"
Saul/Paul realizes this Holy Trinity stuff is weirder than he had imagined.​
Muslims see the Holy Trinity stuff as poly theism; Xians are merely stripped-down Hindus. Yeah, the god-fathers-itself trope -- who else uses it? It's in Hinduism, right?

Heinlein touched on it in the classic ALL YOU ZOMBIES where a fellow, born hermaphroditic and surviving sex reassignment and time travel, manages to be his own father / rapist, mother, rescuer / recruiter, and bartender. If he turned wine into water, he'd be perfect.

Back to Miryam. Was she only a one-night stand? Or, after Yeshua's birth, does she maintain her relationship with Lord {JHWJ}, forsaking or supplanting her husband Yusef? Does she feel guilt? Are her other children Lord {JHWJ}'s, or Yusef's, or whose? Did other godlings or spirits find Miryam's holy womb friendly? Some lewd tales could be told here.
 
phrodeau said:
Nothing there about part of it being added later.

Where's the biblical account of this miraculous shroud? Whose wrath brought down fire upon it, God's or Satan's?
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It wasn't supposed to tell you about that, I gave a history of the shroud. :cool:
 
xfrodobagginsx said:
It wasn't supposed to tell you about that, I gave a history of the shroud. :cool:
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You linked to the Frequently Asked Question page about the Shroud of Turin. There was nothing there about part of it being added later. Who told you that there was a part added later?
 
phrodeau said:
That's from 2009. There have been more recent examinations. There's no evidence that the dated sample is any different from the rest of the shroud. Fabric repairs are never invisible to experts. Besides, the backside image is nearly 3" taller than the front.
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Probably. There is new evidence coming out all of the time. It can't be proven either way scientifically. Historically it has compelling evidence, but can't be concluded either. Personally, I do believe it is the burial cloth of Christ. Have you looked at all of the evidence? The shroud is in fact a photographic negative. As you know, they didn't have that technology 2000 years ago.
 
xfrodobagginsx said:
Probably. There is new evidence coming out all of the time. It can't be proven either way scientifically. Historically it has compelling evidence, but can't be concluded either. Personally, I do believe it is the burial cloth of Christ. Have you looked at all of the evidence? The shroud is in fact a photographic negative. As you know, they didn't have that technology 2000 years ago.
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It is in fact not a photographic negative, since they didn't have that technology back then.

It's also black and white. How primitive.
 
phrodeau said:
It is in fact not a photographic negative, since they didn't have that technology back then.

It's also black and white. How primitive.
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You're not getting it. It IS a photographic negative and you're right, they didn't have that technology at that time. I believe God made it. I believe that when Christ resurrected, some kind of radiation or light was emitted creating the image.

Look at this:

https://www.shroud.com/examine.htm
 
xfrodobagginsx said:
You're not getting it. It IS a photographic negative and you're right, they didn't have that technology at that time. I believe God made it. I believe that when Christ resurrected, some kind of radiation or light was emitted creating the image.

Look at this:

https://www.shroud.com/examine.htm
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Where's the color? What color is the face? What color is the hair? What color are the coins on the eyes? The bloody areas have color, but nowhere else.
 
phrodeau said:
Where's the color? What color is the face? What color is the hair? What color are the coins on the eyes? The bloody areas have color, but nowhere else.
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It's in black and white. Have you heard of black and white pictures? The bloody areas are stained with REAL blood.
 
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