Why does anyone NEED an assault rifle?

My I said:

So you want to keep pushing the ridiculous extremes here.

Those things are not legal to own here. The only people you could purchase them from is the Gov't. The Gov't is not going to sell them to you and you couldn't afford them if they did.

But there ARE people in the US who DO own, privately, retired US military heavy weapons, such as tanks and artillery. They have to jump through more hoops than a years worth of Barnum Bailey & Wringling brothers to get them and they pay more for them than I make in 20 yrs. I forget the actor's name but he played Warf in the Star Trek the Next Generation series. He is the proud owner of a USAF F86 Sabre. There are others who own, privately, retired jet fighters, bombers and helicopters. But you don't hear about them going psycho and blowing up cities.

Just as you don't here about the 3+ million AR owners who DIDN'T shoot up a school or concert.

Keep painting. You're almost to the corner.

BTW: I made no assumptions. You were pretty clear. But I know you don't have the maturity to take responsibility for it.

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My I said:

But you assume that they aren't willing to? Or cannot be that proficient? Or is it the psych test that you believe we can't pass.

News flash for you, Skippy. Over the past 5 years alone I have passed at least 20 drug screens, some included blood and hair follicle testing, more than a dozen criminal background checks including some VERY stringent, in depth investigations to be approved as a contractor on military bases, to work a six week contract in the Federal Reserve Bank of Cleveland (where I was replacing outdated equipment in the vaults) and most recently to obtain the Haz-Mat endorsement on my CDL. I have also, in the past, been an NRA certified pistol instructor and a competitive shooter in several shooting sports. No, I am not the only one. There are far more of us than you would even begin to believe

Again, I ask that you people stop making ignorant assumptions about things you obviously know jack shit about. You all say you want an intelligent discourse and then act like rude little children. You say you want truth but you don't want to hear it. Instead you want what you already believe to be the truth. But truth doesn't work that way. Truth is backed up by fact and evidence. Not just what CNN told you.

Like many of you CNN wouldn't admit the truth to save their own children's lives. And that IS what this is all about.

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phrodeau said:

OK, you count as one.

I know several gun owners, and a couple of them can hit a target. Most of them are game hunters, and of that lot every one goes to it plastered.

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LincolnDuncan said:

I can see that you don't understand , that's o.k. Now that you have drawn the line, I can ask you why you draw the line after the phantom assault rifle? Why are they o.k and the others extreme? That's the only question that me and others have asked and we never get a response.

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My I said:

First of all, what IS an "assault rifle". That's a term made up by liberal media to vilify certain guns they believe to be inherently evil.

Second, What the fuck is a PHANTOM assault rifle? And where the fuck did that enter this debate?

Where the fuck did I say they were "o.k."?

And just what line did I draw?

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coachdb18 said:

Yes, please do tell us of your support for abortion, and how many baby killings have you supported? Maybe we should make it a requirement that abortions be performed with a handgun?

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Carnal_Flower said:

Fetus in the womb vs. little kids in classrooms

Only in the fucked up nutbag Christian universe are these the same thing, so speak for yourself.

You only care about the fetus, not the child. You'll work your ass off to protect the fetus, but rant about your "rights" when kids are blown away at school. How Christian of you.

Actually, I can't see how you'd be able to use a handgun on a fetus--I mean, you'd have to kill the mother. Maybe shoot her right in the uterus?

Most abortions are done by just vacuuming and scraping right off the walls of the womb. By the time you do the procedure, you'd have nothing to shoot. You have to wait till they mature and are born and grow up up and go to first grade for that, dummy

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LincolnDuncan said:

nevermind

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phrodeau said:

OK, you count as one.

I know several gun owners, and a couple of them can hit a target. Most of them are game hunters, and of that lot every one goes to it plastered.

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My I said:

DON'T YOU DARE!!!!!


You wanted an intelligent discussion and I gave it to you.

You wanted to act like a child and I called you on it.

Then you want to claim I said things I didn't and I called you on on it.

NOW FUCKING EXPLAIN YOURSELF!

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KeithD said:

Can't see why you have a leg to stand on on this. You completely failed to respond to my logical tear down of your totally idiotic OP.

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KeithD said:

Can't see why you have a leg to stand on on this. You completely failed to respond to my logical tear down of your totally idiotic OP.

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KeithD said:

None of those were designed solely to kill a maximum number of people in a minimum amount time. Was this a trick question or are you really that stupid? (Don't bother to answer. I know which one it is).

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KeithD said:

You losers are a riot. You're as sleazy and idiotic as the conman you worship. It just keeps getting worse for you day by day, doesn't it?

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KeithD said:

You losers are a riot. You're as sleazy and idiotic as the conman you worship. It just keeps getting worse for you day by day, doesn't it?

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Fetus in the womb vs. little kids in classrooms

Only in the fucked up nutbag Christian universe are these the same thing, so speak for yourself

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coachdb18 said:

So you only support murder at specific ages... maybe 2 or 3 months before birth, maybe it's also OK again when you turn 24, again at 35.... should be very interesting what goes on in your mind... keeping in mind that Nazi theory devalued certain human beings as less valuable than others, thus their extermination was 'justified'...

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EmpressJosephine said:

Let me begin by saying I am not a "gun person." A friend took me to a shooting range once and taught me how to fire her pistol. It was interesting, even fun, but not so much that I got myself a gun, or have even gone out of my way to shoot one again. Thus, I have nothing directly at stake in the whole gun debate.

What I do have at stake is the integrity of the Bill of Rights.

The whole notion that you should have to show some sort of "need" to exercise a constitutional right is a dangerous precedent to seek. The "right to bear arms" is in the Second Amendment. The First Amendment includes the right to say and write what you want. I would think at a site like this, no one would want to make such rights conditional on "need."

After all, why does anyone need to write erotica? If we only have the right to do what we need, and not also what we want, then what constitutional protection remains for Literotica?

If you don't like that it is good enough for someone to simply want a gun to have one, then amend the Constitution. For now, please don't try to limit the constitutional rights of others, because that will justify others coming to limit yours and mine!

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Very well put Josephine.
Have you noticed that in most cases a well thought out rebuttal to a argument that has been beaten to death around here is usually meet with name calling?

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My I said:

You have no idea just how far your credibility dropped, do you?

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phrodeau said:

Oh dear, however can I raise myself in your esteem again?

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BotanyBoy said:

Because semi-automatic weapons are the standard in personal armament.

Why do so many seem to think semi-automatic rifles are so much more dangerous than hand guns which account for roughly 90% of gun crimes in the US on any given year or the legal full auto ACTUAL military hardware??

Do you really think one semi-automatic rifle is more dangerous than any other?

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BotanyBoy said:

Because semi-automatic weapons are the standard in personal armament.

Why do so many seem to think semi-automatic rifles are so much more dangerous than hand guns which account for roughly 90% of gun crimes in the US on any given year or the legal full auto ACTUAL military hardware??

Do you really think one semi-automatic rifle is more dangerous than any other?

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BotanyBoy said:

Because semi-automatic weapons are the standard in personal armament.

Why do so many seem to think semi-automatic rifles are so much more dangerous than hand guns which account for roughly 90% of gun crimes in the US on any given year or the legal full auto ACTUAL military hardware??

Do you really think one semi-automatic rifle is more dangerous than any other?

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