I find it interesting that Switzerland is a free gun society yet they don't have these problems. Gun ownership there is on the decline, but that is purely voluntary. The Swiss have simply decided that they don't want them.
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I find it interesting that Switzerland is a free gun society yet they don't have these problems. Gun ownership there is on the decline, but that is purely voluntary. The Swiss have simply decided that they don't want them.
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This is ALL comparing apples to bricks. There are 1000 web pages that present the statics different ways to support their views. Most don't even bother to tell you how they arrived at the numbers they have. I have said so many times. But it seems a lot of Brits seem to be bent on "Be more like us. We're so much better." And they are the ones who want to bring up comparisons. And it is all to divert the discussion away from the simple truth:
When bad people do bad things, punish the bad people. NOT the good people.
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The simple truth?
The US has a problem with gun crime.
How you deal with it? I have no idea. It seems that the political divide on potential solutions is too wide to bridge and most suggestions are impossible to implement.
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The continuing increase in the wealth gap in the US will result in additional gun violence.
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What is wrong with punishing criminals? How is punishing law abiding people going to solve it?
Come on, Ogg. I know you're smarter than this.
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Simple solution: outlaw fucking everything so everybody will be criminals. The crime problem will disappear because criminality will be the norm, not the exception. Since criminals should be punished, it'll be a sadist's paradise. Pass the salt.
Of course we're all criminals anyway; we just don't acknowledge that every excursion outside the home (and many actions inside) likely breaks some law or regulation.
Of course we're all criminals anyway; we just don't acknowledge that every excursion outside the home (and many actions inside) likely breaks some law or regulation.
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Punishing? Would you cry if your dad sent you to bed without any guns?
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We should simply give Detroit, Chicago, Philly, Boston and Cleveland to Canada, and the Canadians would then be the ones with the crime problem...
Democrats fell in love with Prohibition, and it led to Organized crime, then organized crime led to government adoption of it. The best way to be crime free is a free people, who respect civility, and punish those who abuse it... it’s how the West was won.
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oggbashan
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Smart enough not to answer rhetorical questions when the country you are asking about doesn't seem to have a fucking clue how to solve the problem.
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Wow. Ok. I guess I really am bat shit crazy. Disregard all previous posts. I'm done.
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Yes, we've noticed England failed its citizens miserably by taking away EVERYONE's rights, the US on the other hand still has a Constitution. Way too many hold-over loyalists here who listen to people like you, surrendering freedom to placate the criminals... our freedoms are sacred to us. Our Democrats want the big government solutions to everything, and then wonder why when the problems just get bigger.
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Prohibition was championed by those who believe in government legislating morality, and are the same people who introduce government into every facet of our lives. They want to ban cigarettes too, and determine we all have to wear little helmets to ride our bikes. They expect us to be OK with those little dudes riding around on little bicycles with a ruler and a ticket book, measuring our grass and issuing a 'citation' when the grass is taller than some level THEY feel entitled to determine. And they are the ones who fly into road rage when someone drives faster/slower/is eating a cheeseburger, and THEY will be the judge, jury and executioner to enforce their righteous indignation. They introduced the income tax because THEY know better than us what we need. THEY 'gave' us Socialist Security because they don't trust us to invest well, so the government steals from our paychecks in the name of righteousness. THEY determined we HAVE TO HAVE health insurance, whether we want (or need) it or not, and wrote that into law too. Truth be told, they want to repeal the Bill of Rights, because we're too stupid to have rights. In that way, we are the 2018 version of slaves, whose masters, feed clothe and wash us, for our own good.
Or we can choose to be free and take care of our own fucking needs, and also all of our wants. If we fuck it up, at least we did so as free people, and THAT makes it all worthwhile.
LIVE FREE OR DIE!
Doesn't the USA have something like 1.14 mass shootings a day? They're so common that only the big ones even make the news.
Honestly it's like you're incapable of thinking on a scale larger than a 5 mile radius around your house or something.
Serious question: Does that mean you'd voluntarily kill yourself if the US gov introduced socialized medicine and copied the Swiss model of gun control?
Your definition of "living free" is ultimately outside of your control so it seems like death is the logical consequence of the inevitable political reform which will bring the US in line with the rest of the modern world.
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Why would the US want to join the flat-Earth chorus of the ‘rest of the world’? Try understanding ‘the beacon on the hill’
The statistics seem to show that there is a link between inequality of income and violence in general. I'm not talking one country to another but state to state within the USA. Take a look at "The Spirit Level" https://www.amazon.co.uk/Spirit-Level-Equality-Better-Everyone-ebook/dp/B002XHNNKW
for more information.
Who said we want you to be more like us? I don't really care if you all kill each other, that's your prerogative. I only got involved when you started telling lies about the way things are in my country. It was you who started the comparisons then you get out of your tree because we start telling you what it is really like and exposing your lies.
My only concern is that as Britain gets more like the USA the level of violence here increases.
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