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11-11-2009, 04:48 PM
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Paralleling Islam and the Tactics of Saul David Alinsky
Stop using violence against the system and infiltrate the system; become the system and adopt the terminology of that which is to be subverted in order to create a comfort zone and an acceptance of the stated (but not intended) goals.
Denounce violence publicly as anathema to the cause but condone it with silence when it occurs in the name of your cause; notice it, even in its absence with all others opposed to the cause.
Hold the opposition to its own rules and values while at once being willing to ignore the stated rules and values of the cause in pursuit of its goals.
Isolate and ridicule Christian and Conservative members of the society to be subverted.
Wrap the cause in the name of the salvation of the targeted society. The cause it not the goal, that would be a selfish admission of intent, therefore the goal is presented as the welfare of the people.
Guess who follows the Alinsky model in The United States of AmeriKKKa....
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11-11-2009, 04:54 PM
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So what should we do?
Should we kill the fuckers?
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11-11-2009, 04:56 PM
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No, we should continue to treasure the First Amendment and World Opinion even when it leads to a suicide pact with the Progressive/Islamic fanatics among us.
Freedom is all that matters and our Achilles' Heel...
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11-11-2009, 06:11 PM
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So what should we do?
Should we kill the fuckers?
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No it's more important that we die the most politically correct people in the cemetery.
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I have no reverence for the U.S. Constitution, none for the men who signed it, and certainly none for James Madison, who wrote most of it ~ The_Trouvere
All Muslims are not members of al Qaeda, but all members of al Qaeda are Muslims, and any Muslim might be a member of al Qaeda ~ Stratfor.
"Artillery Brings Dignity to What Would Otherwise Be Just A Vulgar Brawl"
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Here's Stratfor's take:
The Hasan Case: Overt Clues and Tactical Challenges
November 11, 2009 | 1841 GMT
http://hosted.verticalresponse.com/4...77/707ff6bb20/
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In America we solve problems in one of three ways, the Ballot Box, the Jury Box, or the Cartridge Box.
I have no reverence for the U.S. Constitution, none for the men who signed it, and certainly none for James Madison, who wrote most of it ~ The_Trouvere
All Muslims are not members of al Qaeda, but all members of al Qaeda are Muslims, and any Muslim might be a member of al Qaeda ~ Stratfor.
"Artillery Brings Dignity to What Would Otherwise Be Just A Vulgar Brawl"
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11-11-2009, 07:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Frisco_Slug_Esq
Stop using violence against the system and infiltrate the system; become the system and adopt the terminology of that which is to be subverted in order to create a comfort zone and an acceptance of the stated (but not intended) goals.
Denounce violence publicly as anathema to the cause but condone it with silence when it occurs in the name of your cause; notice it, even in its absence with all others opposed to the cause.
Hold the opposition to its own rules and values while at once being willing to ignore the stated rules and values of the cause in pursuit of its goals.
Isolate and ridicule Christian and Conservative members of the society to be subverted.
Wrap the cause in the name of the salvation of the targeted society. The cause it not the goal, that would be a selfish admission of intent, therefore the goal is presented as the welfare of the people.
Guess who follows the Alinsky model in The United States of AmeriKKKa....
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11-12-2009, 06:55 AM
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I knew you would be impressed...
I also knew the libs would have no counter. Instead, they've gone nuclear using my daughter to discredit and "silence" me.
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Contemporary leftists, on the other hand, view their opponents as people you send off to the Gulag, unworthy of any respect, deserving of any kind of low blow, no matter how foul. So you accuse Goldwater of insanity, slander Justice Thomas as a sexual monster, casually publish plays, books, and films calling for the assassination of President Bush, and assault the first serious Republican female candidate at her weakest point -- her family. And of course, you scream to high heaven if any form of turnabout occurs in your direction, as in the case of the Obama family, which was declared "off limits" early in the presidential campaign, at the same time that Palin's family was being stretched on the media rack.
This style of political loathing has become effectively innate. It has been systemized to such a degree as to become integral. Modern liberalism cannot do without it. An entire structure has been erected on the basis of political hatred, and from that structure a whole new strategy has arisen.
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11-12-2009, 07:15 AM
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No, we should continue to treasure the First Amendment and World Opinion even when it leads to a suicide pact with the Progressive/Islamic fanatics among us.
Freedom is all that matters and our Achilles' Heel...
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So your answer is to abolish the First Amendment?
Any other pesky little freedoms you want to do away with?
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11-12-2009, 07:27 AM
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So your answer is to abolish the First Amendment?
Any other pesky little freedoms you want to do away with?
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Exactly!
Suicide pact!
Anyone who will fight America's enemies is against freedom.
That was the lesson you brutally taught us under George Bush, free speech is paramount to any other concern...,
Unless you're Fox News, Lou Dobbs, Carrie Prejaune, Sarah Palin...,
Then and only then, are you an enemy of liberty; this is how well that Berkeley crowd Rand wrote about have executed their strategy.
In order to celebrate free speech, we must be willing to expect casualty.
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11-12-2009, 08:17 AM
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Infiltrate the Presidential transition team.
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11-12-2009, 08:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Frisco_Slug_Esq
Exactly!
Suicide pact!
Anyone who will fight America's enemies is against freedom.
That was the lesson you brutally taught us under George Bush, free speech is paramount to any other concern...,
Unless you're Fox News, Lou Dobbs, Carrie Prejaune, Sarah Palin...,
Then and only then, are you an enemy of liberty; this is how well that Berkeley crowd Rand wrote about have executed their strategy.
In order to celebrate free speech, we must be willing to expect casualty.
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And when confronted with rational argument, attack the speaker.
I love the quote you put up by Ayers. It's worthy to note that all Communists love their ethics, as long as the ethics of Communism are not applied to them personally. Application is for the unwashed masses only.
Ishmael
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11-12-2009, 08:23 AM
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Ayers can afford to be honest since no one will call him on it, even when he admits he wrote "Dreams."
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11-12-2009, 09:09 AM
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In surveying the cultural carnage in the wake of the worst terrorist attack on a military installation in US history, it bears noting that there have been seismic shifts in America. When America was free of the shackles of Islam, say, fifty years ago, the current response to such an attack by an enemy faction would have been unthinkable.
I have watched in abject horror the stunning reaction of elites in this country to this act of war. The denial, the submission, the excuses, the dodging, the self-flagellation, the shame, the deceiving of the American people by the media, the military, society, law enforcement, authorities and politicians, all the way up to and including the White House, amounts to the enforcement of Shariah law.
Shariah law forbids criticism of Islam. And here we are.
We are witnessing an Islamized America. This is well beyond political correctness. We are enforcing Shariah law. We will not insult Islam. That is Shariah law. We self censor. That is Shariah law. We disrespect ourselves, our nation, so that we might respect Islam. This is dhimmitude. We should be raging. We should be outraged. We should be strategizing for this worldwide conflict. We should be debating about which leader will best handle Islam's war on the West. And yet we have not one leader who begins to understand the conflict -- that's how feared the subject matter is. Not one leader.
Recently there was an interesting debate at National Review Online between soft conservatives who soft-pedal Islam and those who stand for reality of Islamic doctrine, conservative principles and the essential truth. By and large, the conservatives have dropped the ball on Islamic jihad. This has been made painfully clear by the lack of a leader (any leader) on the right who speaks to and takes up the fight against the sweeping Islamization of America. America has no Geert Wilders.
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11-12-2009, 09:18 AM
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Ayers can afford to be honest since no one will call him on it, even when he admits he wrote "Dreams."
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Ayers jokes about authoring Obama book, conservitards take it as Gospel of course...
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11-12-2009, 09:26 AM
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Of course it was a joke Throb.
He was just baiting us because he's smarter than we little people.
He's as condescending, arrogant, self-righteous and as mean as you are...
Ayers know exactly what he's done and is doing and he knows exactly who will support him. I know the story.
http://forum.literotica.com/showthread.php?t=619131
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Harvard wrote his Review,
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11-12-2009, 09:28 AM
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Now, I'll give you one more chance this morning to say something snarky about my daughter JUST to remind our gentle readers who you and Ayers really are way down deep in your black souls...
"I am a radical, Leftist, small "c" Communist.... Maybe I am the last Communist willing to admit it.... The ethics of Communism still appeal to me."
William Ayers
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Contemporary leftists, on the other hand, view their opponents as people you send off to the Gulag, unworthy of any respect, deserving of any kind of low blow, no matter how foul. So you accuse Goldwater of insanity, slander Justice Thomas as a sexual monster, casually publish plays, books, and films calling for the assassination of President Bush, and assault the first serious Republican female candidate at her weakest point -- her family. And of course, you scream to high heaven if any form of turnabout occurs in your direction, as in the case of the Obama family, which was declared "off limits" early in the presidential campaign, at the same time that Palin's family was being stretched on the media rack.
This style of political loathing has become effectively innate. It has been systemized to such a degree as to become integral. Modern liberalism cannot do without it. An entire structure has been erected on the basis of political hatred, and from that structure a whole new strategy has arisen.
J.R. Dunn
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Of course it was a joke Throb.
He was just baiting us because he's smarter than we little people.
He's as condescending, arrogant, self-righteous and as mean as you are...
Ayers know exactly what he's done and is doing and he knows exactly who will support him. I know the story.
http://forum.literotica.com/showthread.php?t=619131 |
Don't feel bad, AJ, it wasn't just you. Quite a few conservatives and NotRepublicans didn't get the joke.
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11-12-2009, 09:32 AM
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Don't feel bad, AJ, it wasn't just you. Quite a few conservatives and NotRepublicans didn't get the joke.
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The joke is on you. He does that just for you. He does that because he's smarter than you and knows how to use you in his war against America.
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... after all, he got away with murder.
You are as shallow a thinker as you are a human being.
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11-12-2009, 09:40 AM
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... after all, he got away with murder.
You are as shallow a thinker as you are a human being.
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You know, AJ, I get the distinct impression sometimes that you just don't like me.
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And when confronted with rational argument, attack the speaker.
I love the quote you put up by Ayers. It's worthy to note that all Communists love their ethics, as long as the ethics of Communism are not applied to them personally. Application is for the unwashed masses only.
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Pardon me, but what does Communism have to do with Islam? I should think Christianity is rather more of a communistic religion.
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IX. The Courtyard
It was the city I had known before;
The ancient, leprous town where mongrel throngs
Chant to strange gods, and beat unhallowed gongs
In crypts beneath foul alleys near the shore.
The rotting, fish-eyed houses leered at me
From where they leaned, drunk and half-animate,
As edging through the filth I passed the gate
To the black courtyard where the man would be.
The dark walls closed me in, and loud I cursed
That ever I had come to such a den,
When suddenly a score of windows burst
Into wild light, and swarmed with dancing men:
Mad, soundless revels of the dragging dead -
And not a corpse had either hands or head!
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Pardon me, but what does Communism have to do with Islam? I should think Christianity is rather more of a communistic religion.
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Wrong, as usual.
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Wrong, as usual.
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42 And they continued stedfastly in the apostles' doctrine and fellowship, and in breaking of bread, and in prayers.43 Everyone was filled with awe, and many wonders and miraculous signs were done by the apostles. 44 And all that believed were together, and had all things in common; 45 And sold their possessions and goods, and parted them to all men, as every man had need.
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But, again:
What does Communism have to do with Islam?
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IX. The Courtyard
It was the city I had known before;
The ancient, leprous town where mongrel throngs
Chant to strange gods, and beat unhallowed gongs
In crypts beneath foul alleys near the shore.
The rotting, fish-eyed houses leered at me
From where they leaned, drunk and half-animate,
As edging through the filth I passed the gate
To the black courtyard where the man would be.
The dark walls closed me in, and loud I cursed
That ever I had come to such a den,
When suddenly a score of windows burst
Into wild light, and swarmed with dancing men:
Mad, soundless revels of the dragging dead -
And not a corpse had either hands or head!
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11-12-2009, 10:55 AM
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what's new, fuck bubble?
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Pardon me, but what does Communism have to do with Islam? I should think Christianity is rather more of a communistic religion.
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Both are totalitarian and Godless?
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Both are totalitarian and Godless?
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