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We just had our third one in one hundred year flood this year, last night. Did we piss off a deity? There was 3ft of water on the road in front of my house and our neighbours houses looked like something from hurricane katrina ...
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We just had our third one in one hundred year flood this year, last night. Did we piss off a deity? There was 3ft of water on the road in front of my house and our neighbours houses looked like something from hurricane katrina ...
Okay, now you are good for the next 300 years.
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Blame it on Global Warming . . .
I think it is. I don't know what it's like where you are, but shit has certainly changed around here. The summers get hotter and hotter and you sunburn much easier than you used too. Our weather patterns have changed a lot. We used to get our rain spread out over weeks, now we have two modes; dry as a bone or flooding wildly...
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Vrosej, my guess is you are somewhere in NE New South Wales Coffs Harbour/ Ballina, that neck of the woods.

I think the problem is people. When I first went up there 25 years ago most of the roads were gravel, there were only half as many houses, if that.

Since then Developers have built over every piece of coastal land they can get their hands on, Local councils have paved all the minor roads and the RTA has upgraded and rebuilt swathes of the Pacific Highway. An engineer friend at the RTA told me that tarmac and concrete surfaces on the north coast had increased by 500% since 1980.

Result is that the speed of rainwater run off has increased exponentially. You, unfortunately are going to be flooded some more and often.
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Go read John Grisham's 'A Painted House'. The poor Arkansas cotton farmers got a exceptional flood in October 1953 - before Al Gore was discovered in the ruins of polar bear glaciers.
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Go read John Grisham's 'A Painted House'. The poor Arkansas cotton farmers got a exceptional flood in October 1953 - before Al Gore was discovered in the ruins of polar bear glaciers.
That's a good book.

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I think it is. I don't know what it's like where you are, but shit has certainly changed around here. The summers get hotter and hotter and you sunburn much easier than you used too. Our weather patterns have changed a lot. We used to get our rain spread out over weeks, now we have two modes; dry as a bone or flooding wildly...
You need to dig a Very large hole that can hold this surplus water.
There's a proper name for the thing but I cannot remember it.
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I think it is. I don't know what it's like where you are, but shit has certainly changed around here. The summers get hotter and hotter and you sunburn much easier than you used too. Our weather patterns have changed a lot. We used to get our rain spread out over weeks, now we have two modes; dry as a bone or flooding wildly...
I don't know what you're complaining about. Sounds perfectly SoCal normal to me. Been that way 'round hyar for centuries.
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Vrosej, my guess is you are somewhere in NE New South Wales Coffs Harbour/ Ballina, that neck of the woods.

I think the problem is people. When I first went up there 25 years ago most of the roads were gravel, there were only half as many houses, if that.

Since then Developers have built over every piece of coastal land they can get their hands on, Local councils have paved all the minor roads and the RTA has upgraded and rebuilt swathes of the Pacific Highway. An engineer friend at the RTA told me that tarmac and concrete surfaces on the north coast had increased by 500% since 1980.

Result is that the speed of rainwater run off has increased exponentially. You, unfortunately are going to be flooded some more and often.
I'm in town, in Coffs and yes I do think council are to blame for some of the disaster. They simply shouldn't have allowed people to build in some the places they did. Check out my street (see attached pic). That being said, the rain was torrential. We got 50cm of rain in two hours.
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I don't know what you're complaining about. Sounds perfectly SoCal normal to me. Been that way 'round hyar for centuries.
It's just not normally like this around here. We are actually supposed to have one of the most livable climates in the world. Supposed to...
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Hi Vrosej,
We're floodboat training in WA at the moment with the State Emergency Service. Don't know if we'll need it much in Perth but judging by the situation on the East coast, there could be a fair amount of State exchanges coming in the following years. I feel for you!
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My son called a few hours ago and related a weather event on the Oregon Coast. A Tornado, unheard of there, two inches of Ping Pong ball sized hail, ocean waves that washed up into the first floor of the Hotel he manages and a log that put askew the pillar holding three floors of balconies, tremendous amounts of rain, which is typical and high winds, also normal for the coast.

The only certain thing about the weather I have ever heard is that...it always changes.

One certainly has sympathy and well wishes for your situation.

I do get somewhat irritated at those who punk out with the AGW scare, and even more so with those who criticize housing development and expansion; what are people supposed to do, camp out?

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My son called a few hours ago and related a weather event on the Oregon Coast. A Tornado, unheard of there, two inches of Ping Pong ball sized hail, ocean waves that washed up into the first floor of the Hotel he manages and a log that put askew the pillar holding three floors of balconies, tremendous amounts of rain, which is typical and high winds, also normal for the coast.

The only certain thing about the weather I have ever heard is that...it always changes.

One certainly has sympathy and well wishes for your situation.

I do get somewhat irritated at those who punk out with the AGW scare, and even more so with those who criticize housing development and expansion; what are people supposed to do, camp out?

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It wasn't that they approved developments that was the problem, but where they did. Council is a wee bit dodgy here. They let people build on known flood plans and next to small creeks that become huge with not much rain and then play dumb when they're under six feet of water the first time it rains. There is plenty of land only a couple of kilometers away that it would be impossible to flood.
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