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Old 11-06-2009, 06:48 PM   #1
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Cool Has anyone on the Left blamed Obama for 10.2% Unemployment???

Of course not.

Not a chance.

Never happen.

We won NY-23. Are you kidding us?

Everyone thinks we're the light, the salvation, the mmmm, mmmm, mmmm! good!
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Old 11-06-2009, 06:57 PM   #2
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Of course not.

Not a chance.

Never happen.

We won NY-23. Are you kidding us?

Everyone thinks we're the light, the salvation, the mmmm, mmmm, mmmm! good!
No never, even if he's standing in Washington looking across the country from the rim of a 3000 mile wide economic crater, it won't be his fault. It's simply too un PC for him to fail.
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Old 11-06-2009, 07:05 PM   #3
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But things are getting better, Timmy said so.

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Old 11-06-2009, 07:05 PM   #4
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I think the Democrats are willing to accept high unemployment and the opportunity to assist the unemployed with their loot from the rich.



Hard telling what happens when they run out of other people's money...
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Old 11-06-2009, 07:06 PM   #5
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But things are getting better, Timmy said so.

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Well, for all his former business buddies, things are better.


Must be nice to be too big and too rich to fail...
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Old 11-06-2009, 07:15 PM   #6
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Democratic civil war update: MoveOn raises $3.6 million to attack party moderates
By: BYRON YORK
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11/06/09 5:43 AM EST

A few days ago, the left-wing activist group MoveOn.org began sending out emails seeking contributions to fund primary challenges against any Democratic senator who does not fully support "health care reform with a public option." Now there's an update: MoveOn executive director Justin Ruben says the group has raised $3,578,117 for the project and is thinking of new ways to punish errant Democratic lawmakers.

"It's a huge sum, and the clearest signal yet that any Democrat who helps Republicans filibuster health care reform will face an enormous backlash from the grassroots," writes Ruben. And now, working in conjunction with Howard Dean's old organization Democracy for America, MoveOn is starting a drive to take away the committee chairmanships of any Democrat who fails to live up to MoveOn's progressive standards. "Many of these senators hold coveted committee chairmanships that give them significant power within the Senate," Ruben writes. "Our friends at Democracy for America have launched an open letter urging Senate Democrats to strip committee chairmanships from any Democrat who filibusters health care." Ruben says that more than 66,000 MoveOn and Democracy for America members have pledged to contribute.

"Chairing a committee is a privilege, not a right," Ruben continues. "So if a member of the Democratic Congress joins with Republicans in the most important vote in a generation, then they certainly don't deserve a position of power controlled by Democrats."

The latest statements from MoveOn and Democracy for America come amid continued media analysis of divisions in the Republican party. MoveOn's threats -- backed by millions of dollars and tens of thousands of progressive activists -- have received far less attention.
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Old 11-06-2009, 07:16 PM   #7
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Well, for all his former business buddies, things are better.


Must be nice to be too big and too rich to fail...
So it seems.

And you're right about the unemployment. Better to create dependents than jobs.

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Old 11-06-2009, 07:17 PM   #8
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Looks like the "Big Tent" is shrinking.




Fiscal Conservatives need not apply...

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Old 11-06-2009, 07:18 PM   #9
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Yes, dependents are good, but better aborted.




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Old 11-06-2009, 07:21 PM   #10
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That's not a serious question is it?

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Old 11-06-2009, 07:22 PM   #11
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Yes, dependents are good, but better aborted.




I'm gravitating towards that Kiwi's idea. Pay the underclasses not to breed.

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Here's a graph showing US unemployment over the last couple of years:



Any respectable analyst will tell you that unemployment typically lags a recession by six months. That puts the dy/dx peak at about October last year. Tell me, who was President then?
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Old 11-06-2009, 07:24 PM   #13
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Here's a graph showing US unemployment over the last couple of years:



Any respectable analyst will tell you that unemployment typically lags a recession by six months. That puts the dy/dx peak at about October last year. Tell me, who was President then?
Nancy Pelosi...
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Old 11-06-2009, 07:25 PM   #14
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I'm gravitating towards that Kiwi's idea. Pay the underclasses not to breed.

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How will we get more victims?

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Old 11-06-2009, 07:26 PM   #15
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Think Nancy will still hold the vote tommorrow?

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Another seemingly grim health care poll--49/39 against, compared with 42/40 earlier in the month by the same pollster (Ipsos/McClatchy). The new poll eerily resonates with Rasmussen's increased margin of 54/42 against. But, again, part of the drop in support could come from erstwhile reform supporters worried about the status of the "public option." I'd be interested in the breakout of independents and Democrats--but I can't open the file. If you can, feel free to let me know. Mickey_Kaus at msn dot com. ... Mickey's Assignment Desk: Mark Blumenthal--maybe you can help. Why are the health care polls going south? Unaffiliated voters worried about the deficit? Libs worried about the public option? Seniors worried about death panels overzealous cost containment measures? Everyone worried about rising premiums? ... Or any combination of the above (including voters betraying their stereotypes--e.g. liberals worried about overzealous cost controls or deficits?) ...

Update: Thanks to all who sent the numbers. Opposition to reform appears to have held steady among GOPs. but risen among independents by 15 percentage points (from 38% opposed to 53%) and also among Democrats by 7 percentage points (from 18% to 25%). Less clear is what could have provoked these drops. It's hard to say "lack of a public option," given that the public option seems to be in better shape today than early in October--though the poll was taken immediately following Sen. Lieberman's filibuster threat. ...4:27 P.M.
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Old 11-06-2009, 07:33 PM   #16
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Think Nancy will still hold the vote tommorrow?
She'll try. She doesn't give a shit about what the public thinks. I do know that a central FL. lib. that was going to vote for it changed her mind yesterday so it all depends on the backroom deals now.

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Old 11-06-2009, 07:37 PM   #17
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Let me see...

Here's the offer I can't refuse, get shot down back home, or get shot down here by Nancy and her goon squad...




Is there a way out? Take out Nancy?
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Old 11-06-2009, 07:40 PM   #18
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Heh, I was out of town and missed the morning after NY23 on Lit...
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Let me see...

Here's the offer I can't refuse, get shot down back home, or get shot down here by Nancy and her goon squad...




Is there a way out? Take out Nancy?
May be the only way. But Nancy et al have a problem in that the backroom deals involve raising the deficit even further and the public isn't buying that shit either. Of course they have that unspent $500 billion in porkulus to fall back on.

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Old 11-06-2009, 07:44 PM   #20
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You missed nothing, especially discussion of New Jersey and Virginia...




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Didn't miss much. Drowning rats will cling to any scrap that floats.

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Old 11-06-2009, 07:45 PM   #22
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Old 11-06-2009, 07:47 PM   #23
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May be the only way. But Nancy et al have a problem in that the backroom deals involve raising the deficit even further and the public isn't buying that shit either. Of course they have that unspent $500 billion in porkulus to fall back on.

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I think the abortion issue is finally catching up with the Left. Even among conservative Democrats.

Think she could get any madder at Rahm and his Blue Dawg strategy...?

She wants them gone and this vote is one helluva way to accomplish that and win the Holy Grail of Marxism.
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Old 11-06-2009, 07:54 PM   #24
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Here's a graph showing US unemployment over the last couple of years:



Any respectable analyst will tell you that unemployment typically lags a recession by six months. That puts the dy/dx peak at about October last year. Tell me, who was President then?
According to the National Bureau of Economic Research, the recession really started in December 2007. The NBER based their assesment on monthly statistics, not quarterly. Jobs peaked in December of 2007 and then have been declining ever since then.
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Ironically, Dec 2007 was at the beginning of the Pelosi Budget...
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