Star Trek

[KRCummings]

Good opening. For Star Trek anyway.
The intros are stupid. Cliche' to say the least. I could have done without all of them. The thing with the green woman was ok I guess. A little nod to the fans but they made her too attractive. I suppose I can understand why but it doesn't work.
I'm not done with the movie yet but I have one question that simply won't go away. Why do they have a shipyard in Iowa? That doesn't make sense. Hell, it even goes against what's known about the Star Trek universe and even the fucking trailer for the movie. It's bugging the shit out of me. I can't let it go. I'm afraid I won't be able to enjoy the rest of the movie because of it. Fuck!!

[Luke_Atmydik]

I had never seen a full episode nor the movies. I actually went to see this one and was really impressed.

[Drixxx]

I liked it.

[KRCummings]

Originally Posted by Luke_Atmydik

I had never seen a full episode nor the movies. I actually went to see this one and was really impressed.

It's good so far for what it is. I'm not a trekker by any stretch but it's ok. I do hate the intros to the characters though. I thought they were poorly done.

[jomar]

Okay, so you have it on DVD? Didn't see it in the theater?

Didn't we do this thread? Or was that on the AH. I forget.

Anyway, it was tiresome in a few parts, like the 'big fight', but I thought the characters were really pretty good overall.

And with the new timeline they can build the franchise however they want without worrying about keeping track of old stuff.

[tinylittlegnat]

Originally Posted by KRCummings

It's good so far for what it is. I'm not a trekker by any stretch but it's ok. I do hate the intros to the characters though. I thought they were poorly done.

Spoiler

The only intro I disliked was the child Kirk intro. It was corny and dumb. Why the hell would a kid 100 years from now listen to Rage against the machine. You don't see kids today listening to the inkspots.

Its a pretty good film and I hated the original series.

BTW the guy that plays Kirks father in the first 10 minutes of the film is playing Thor in the upcoming comic book based film.

[KRCummings]

Originally Posted by jomar

Okay, so you have it on DVD? Didn't see it in the theater?

Didn't we do this thread? Or was that on the AH. I forget.

Anyway, it was a few tiresome in parts, like the 'big fight', but I thought the characters were really pretty good overall.

And with a new timeline they can build the franchise however they want.

Still doesn't explain a shipyard in Iowa. That doesn't make sense in any timeline. The ships are built in space. They have to be. It's really bugging me. I know it's a little tiny thing but damnit.

[pointless]

Originally Posted by KRCummings

Still doesn't explain a shipyard in Iowa. That doesn't make sense in any timeline. The ships are built in space. They have to be. It's really bugging me. I know it's a little tiny thing but damnit.

i don't believe it was a shipyard. i'm pretty sure it was just a spaceport. like an airport, but for space.

[Bert Notorius]

I blame a total lack of Roddenberry's.

[pete1968]

Originally Posted by KRCummings

It's good so far for what it is. I'm not a trekker by any stretch but it's ok. I do hate the intros to the characters though. I thought they were poorly done.

as opposed to a trekkie, yeah? there's a difference between the two, i think. not sure exactly what, but i think there is.

or, it could be i'm just wrong and an idiot :-(

[tinylittlegnat]

Originally Posted by KRCummings

Still doesn't explain a shipyard in Iowa. That doesn't make sense in any timeline. The ships are built in space. They have to be. It's really bugging me. I know it's a little tiny thing but damnit.

Most likely they are fabricated earthside and assembled in space just like we did with the space station. Build a section. Lift it up. Connect it. Iowa wouldn't be a bad idea as it is wide open space and plenty of room for a work area to grow.

[KRCummings]

Originally Posted by pointless

i don't believe it was a shipyard. i'm pretty sure it was just a spaceport. like an airport, but for space.

No, they had a few nice shots of them building a starship. No question what they were doing. Plus they called it a shipyard.

[KRCummings]

Originally Posted by tinylittlegnat

Most likely they are fabricated earthside and assembled in space just like we did with the space station. Build a section. Lift it up. Connect it. Iowa wouldn't be a bad idea as it is wide open space and plenty of room for a work area to grow.

Whole ship, one piece, right there. No way for it to get into space but hey, real estate is cheap in Iowa.

[pete1968]

i would imagine that even a few hundred years in the future, it's infinitely easier to build something huge down here in open air than out in lethal space.

[tinylittlegnat]

Originally Posted by KRCummings

Whole ship, one piece, right there. No way for it to get into space but hey, real estate is cheap in Iowa.

Space tow truck

[KRCummings]

Originally Posted by pete1968

i would imagine that even a few hundred years in the future, it's infinitely easier to build something huge down here in open air than out in lethal space.

No, even now it's easier to build in space but we just don't have a need for it yet. When we do then we will. It's essentially no different than underwater welding except the that welder would also have to be a half assed astronaut.
Anway, it doesn't make sense to build something that size down here. Not only would the cost of getting it up in space be prohibitive but how are you going to get it up there in the first place? Strap rockets to its side?
Besides, in the Star Trek universe they build them in space. That has been established in previous movies and maybe the tv show, I'm not sure about that.
Also in the teaser trailer for this movie they showed a shipyard (in space) building the Enterprise.
I know I'm going on and on about a very minor thing. Fuck you.

[pointless]

Originally Posted by KRCummings

No, they had a few nice shots of them building a starship. No question what they were doing. Plus they called it a shipyard.

well, i missed that.

[KRCummings]

One thing I like even though they're inconsistent with it is that there is no sound in space. Whenever (so far) there are people exposed to space it's silent. It's not when it's just ships and stuff but that's ok because otherwise it'd be really boring. Very very few scifi movies get that right.

[Sonny Limatina]

Originally Posted by KRCummings

One thing I like even though they're inconsistent with it is that there is no sound in space. Whenever (so far) there are people exposed to space it's silent. It's not when it's just ships and stuff but that's ok because otherwise it'd be really boring. Very very few scifi movies get that right.

I typed an interested and articulate response to this, and then got tired of myself. So this is what you get instead.

[KRCummings]

Originally Posted by flat5ive

I typed an interested and articulate response to this, and then got tired of myself. So this is what you get instead.

Were you going to explain why there's sound when it's just stuff but not when it's people? That would be interesting. I assume it's just an artistic thing from the filmmakers who don't want us to be bored during battles. Perhaps you have a better theory. Or not. Whatever works for ya.

[coastal-boy]

(I did not write this)

Iowa has just been really racially progressive. So if you're going to build a racially intermixed Starship it seems a logical place to do so.

The very first decision of the Iowa Supreme Court (Re the Matter of Ralph 1839) rejected slavery in a decision that found that a slave named Ralph became free when he stepped onto Iowa soil 26 years before the end of the Civil War.

The Iowa Supreme Court decided (Re: Clark vs. The Board of Directors 1868) that racially segregated schools had no place in Iowa 85 years before the U.S. Supreme Court made the same decision.

The Iowa Supreme Court (Re: Coger vs. The North Western Union Packet Co. 1873) ruled against racial discrimination in public accommodations 91 years before the U.S. Supreme Court made the same decision.

[pete1968]

Originally Posted by KRCummings

No, even now it's easier to build in space but we just don't have a need for it yet. When we do then we will. It's essentially no different than underwater welding except the that welder would also have to be a half assed astronaut.
Anway, it doesn't make sense to build something that size down here. Not only would the cost of getting it up in space be prohibitive but how are you going to get it up there in the first place? Strap rockets to its side?
Besides, in the Star Trek universe they build them in space. That has been established in previous movies and maybe the tv show, I'm not sure about that.
Also in the teaser trailer for this movie they showed a shipyard (in space) building the Enterprise.
I know I'm going on and on about a very minor thing. Fuck you.

thinking in terms of today's propulsion, yes it's harder to break gravity. but from all the star trek crap i've seen, ships in their time seem to have *no* trouble bustin' out of our atmosphere. so if they build a huge-ass whatever down here it shouldn't be much trouble for them to get it into space.

and it's not easier to build in space, it just has a certain convenience over land-based construction for the whole gravity issue mentioned above. logistically, it's much easier to construct and assemble and test all the different parts down here with hundreds of crews working in open breathable air than it would be to have only a fraction of the equipment and construction crews working slower, in limited shifts, with special suits, etc. up in space. yeah underwater welding is do-able, but open air welding is hella easier.

i don't know how they do it in the s.t. universe. i'm not a trekker. or a trekkie. whateva .

[Sonny Limatina]

Originally Posted by KRCummings

Were you going to explain why there's sound when it's just stuff but not when it's people? That would be interesting. I assume it's just an artistic thing from the filmmakers who don't want us to be bored during battles. Perhaps you have a better theory. Or not. Whatever works for ya.

Sometimes I just get sick of my own voice. Even when it's just typing.

Not sick enough not to type about being sick of my own typing, mind you. Let's not get crazy here.

[coastal-boy]

besides...everyone knows what a good tractor beam does in reverse...especially with a good Duranium alloy

[KRCummings]

Originally Posted by flat5ive

Sometimes I just get sick of my own voice. Even when it's just typing.

Not sick enough not to type about being sick of my own typing, mind you. Let's not get crazy here.

I don't know how many times I've started a thread or a response and written this really long ass dissertation on the difference between Mel Brooks movies or why people like Garbage Can or Trouvere are allowed to breathe and then get bored in the middle of it and hit the back button.