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List of Obama Czars

Who are these people who are de facto in charge of your country and lives and what is their history?


Car Czar 1 - Steve Ratner
Car Czar 2 - Ron Bloom
Energy czar - Carol Browner
Green Jobs Czar - Van Jones
Stimulus czar- Earl Devaney
TARP czar - Herb Allison
Science Czar - John Holdren
Internet Czar - Susan Crawford
Health reform czar - Nancy-Ann DeParle
Urban czar - Adolfo Carrion, Jr.
Drug czar - Gil Kerlikowske
Infotechnology czar - Vivek Kundra
Faith-based czar - Joshua DuBois
Non-proliferation czar Gary Samore
Terrorism czar - John Brennan
Safe Schools Czar - Kevin Jennings
Regulatory czar - Cass Sunstein
Guantanamo closure Czar - Daniel Fried
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Who are these people who are de facto in charge of your country and lives and what is their history?

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Car Czar 1 - Steve Ratner
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Car Czar 2 - Ron Bloom
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Energy czar - Carol Browner
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Green Jobs Czar - Van Jones
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Stimulus czar- Earl Devaney

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TARP czar - Herb Allison
Science Czar - John Holdren
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Internet Czar - Susan Crawford
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Health reform czar - Nancy-Ann DeParle
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Urban czar - Adolfo Carrion, Jr.
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Drug czar - Gil Kerlikowske
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Infotechnology czar - Vivek Kundra
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Faith-based czar - Joshua DuBois
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Non-proliferation czar Gary Samore
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Terrorism czar - John Brennan
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Safe Schools Czar - Kevin Jennings
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Regulatory czar - Cass Sunstein
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Guantanamo closure Czar - Daniel Fried
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fgarvg1 what is your point? bush had tons of czars too. I believe it was more.
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I have no real point except some people might think some of these Czars might be a little biased.


Most people aren't even aware they exist...Yet.


Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

Obama?
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I wanna be Big Titty Czar. Advise and give well-structured plans out to the development and management of big natural titties in America.

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instead of more of this

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I have no real point except some people might think some of these Czars might be a little biased.


Most people aren't even aware they exist...Yet.
The problem with that is that everyone is biased on some level. I am and so are you. Unless the bias is directly against what they should be doing it should be a non issue.

If the drug czar vacations in Columbia and is constantly sniffing his nose thats a problem.

If the energy czar was found with a hooker when he was 22 I could care less.
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Mamma mia. Lookit the fecundity of those beautiful big titties stretching that gal's shirt out to its unholy limits. This shit needs to be regulated, I'm tellin' ya.
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Hey, My generation is a little paranoid to start with.

I think it was all that paraquat laced marijuana we smoked thanks to our government back in the seventies.
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I have no real point except some people might think some of these Czars might be a little biased.


Most people aren't even aware they exist...Yet.


Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

Obama?
Let's keep this in perspective: Appointing "czars" does not give the Executive Branch of the U.S. Government any powers it did not have before. It's purely a matter of the allocation of power/control/autonomy within the Executive Branch. You could make a case that departmental bureaucrats, whose missions are defined by enabling acts of Congress, should have a certain degree of political independence from the WH. That certainly was a matter of some controversy during the Bush Admin. But, somehow, that does not seem to be the concern that RWs who cry "Czars!" have in mind. What they do have in mind has never been clear to me.
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I think it was all that paraquat laced marijuana we smoked thanks to our government back in the seventies.
When in the seventies did the government give you weed?
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When in the seventies did the government give you weed?

They didn't, they went to Mexico and sprayed it... as well as some here in the USA.

They thought that would discourage people from smoking it.


I have no Ideal if I smoked any of it or not.

The USA was the main importer back in those days.
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They didn't, they went to Mexico and sprayed it... as well as some here in the USA.

They thought that would discourage people from smoking it.


I have no Ideal if I smoked any of it or not.

The USA was the main importer back in those days.
Watched a program on Natgeo that had cops raiding weed farms on national parks. On one site they found thousands of dollars worth of weed almost ready for harvest. They just throw it on a pile and burn it.

On spike they have an awesome show called DEA and its amazing the shit they find.
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The problem with that is that everyone is biased on some level. I am and so are you. Unless the bias is directly against what they should be doing it should be a non issue.

If the drug czar vacations in Columbia and is constantly sniffing his nose thats a problem.

If the energy czar was found with a hooker when he was 22 I could care less.
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You don't put drug addicts in charge of the hospital pharmacy.

You don't hire school teachers who are child molesters.

Gay priest and Boyscout leaders aren't working out so well either.

You also don't put people in charge of all that, who think those things are not a problem and expect things to work out for the best.

That, my friend is why it is an issue.
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They didn't, they went to Mexico and sprayed it... as well as some here in the USA.

They thought that would discourage people from smoking it.


I have no Ideal if I smoked any of it or not.

The USA was the main importer back in those days.
You'd know. Paraquat is nasty shit.
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You'd know. Paraquat is nasty shit.
So is skunk weed and a few others.

Some of that stuff back in the old days was HARSH!
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So is skunk weed and a few others.

Some of that stuff back in the old days was HARSH!
Would you rather do that or eat a mushroom tha grows out of cow shit
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Some of that stuff back in the old days was HARSH!
Sure was...but I meant that paraquat was straight up toxic, not just bad tasting.
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Sure was...but I meant that paraquat was straight up toxic, not just bad tasting.

No doubt.

I don't know how we got so far of track.

The point is, some of the things our government does"in the best interest of the people" isn't.

Richard Fucking Nixon was responsible for that.
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You don't put drug addicts in charge of the hospital pharmacy.

You don't hire school teachers who are child molesters.

Gay priest and Boyscout leaders aren't working out so well either.

You also don't put people in charge of all that, who think those things are not a problem and expect things to work out for the best.

That, my friend is why it is an issue.
That's why robots and sentient computer programs should be running this country. Obviously, we as humans will never see eye-to-eye. We will always be fighting each other, using each other, be distrustful of the other's objectives and heart. Let's admit it, it's impossible to have the nation come together under our direction. Human beings have been shown to fail each other time and time again, ironically without fail!

Straightforward. Impartial. Logical. Mathematically precise. Impervious and invulnerable to the various temptations, imperfections, physical defects and mental weaknesses of human beings that otherwise impede a proper government. And they wouldn't require financial compensation for their duty, only a continuous power source, so we would repair our broken economy in no time.

I nominate MCP for our next leader.

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You don't put drug addicts in charge of the hospital pharmacy.

You don't hire school teachers who are child molesters.

Gay priest and Boyscout leaders aren't working out so well either.

You also don't put people in charge of all that, who think those things are not a problem and expect things to work out for the best.

That, my friend is why it is an issue.
So, you don't have a problem with Obama appointing "czars," but with the particular persons he is choosing for the positions?

"Safe Schools Czar" Kevin Jennings is getting smeared, BTW. He's certainly gay, but it's total bullshit about his being a pedophile, etc.
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you BELIEVE it was more?

BULLSHIT!

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