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09-13-2009, 11:11 AM
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ACORN fires back at critics after sting
September 13, 2009
ACORN fires back at critics after sting
The liberal activist group ACORN, reeling after hidden-camera videos showed its employees giving tax advice to a woman posing as a prostitute, went on the offensive Saturday by accusing conservatives of smearing the organization to undermine President Obama's health care overhaul plans.
The group already had fired two employees in Washington and two in Baltimore who were caught in the sting videos, but the flap prompted the Obama administration late last week to cancel plans for ACORN to work on the 2010 census.
The Baltimore video, which hit the Internet on Thursday and aired Friday on the Fox News Channel, also intensified Republican calls for a congressional probe of ACORN. The group has long weathered charges of criminal activity ranging from voter fraud to racketeering as well as criticism of its financial ties and close cooperation with President Obama's 2008 campaign for the White House.
"It is no coincidence that the most recent attacks have been launched just when health care reform is gaining traction," Bertha Lewis, ACORN's chief organizer, said in a press release Saturday. "It is clear they've had these tapes for months."
Ms. Lewis said conservative forces were conspiring to make ACORN the "Willie Horton for 2009," referring to the convicted murderer who committed more crimes while on work release from a Massachusetts prison and was featured in a 1988 campaign ad criticizing Democratic presidential nominee Michael S. Dukakis as being supposedly soft on crime.
"We are the boogeyman for the right wing and its echo chambers," Ms. Lewis said.
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09-13-2009, 11:34 AM
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So ACORN's Whiny Ass Point would be WHAT?
Not 1 but 2 ACORN Office's were caught instructing a man and women posing as a PIMP and his HO how to get Federal assistance money to get a house paid for by the Tax Payers!
WHITEY and HIS HO are keeping the BLACK MAN DOWN!!!!
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09-13-2009, 11:36 AM
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Thing is, Willie Horton really did commit very bad crimes after he was let out of prison early. Also, wasn't it Al Gore who first played the Willie Horton card?
IOW, WH was a valid symbol of a legitimate public policy, public safety issue.
This is a valid symbol of a legitimate public policy, public corruption issue.
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09-13-2009, 11:36 AM
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They are also considering suing the two filmmakers and FOX. They my want to reconsider that, it opens a mighty big door for investigation.
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09-13-2009, 11:39 AM
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stupit lit dupe post
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09-13-2009, 11:40 AM
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stupit lit did it again
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09-13-2009, 11:51 AM
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They are also considering suing the two filmmakers and FOX. They my want to reconsider that, it opens a mighty big door for investigation.
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SUE for WHAT?
An Independent Company filmed the Sting. FOX aired it.
Hell I will sign up to be on the JURY!
Please Oh PLEASE let me be on the JURY! |
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09-13-2009, 11:54 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Beco
ACORN fires back at critics after sting
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Effect of ACORN firing back. 
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09-13-2009, 11:55 AM
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Effect of ACORN firing back.
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Ok thats F'n Funny! |
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09-13-2009, 11:56 AM
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Quote:
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SUE for WHAT?
An Independent Company filmed the Sting. FOX aired it.
Hell I will sign up to be on the JURY!
Please Oh PLEASE let me be on the JURY!
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Plus FOX was not even the first to air it.
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09-13-2009, 12:08 PM
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they lost the census thank god!
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09-13-2009, 12:23 PM
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they lost the census thank god!
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Let see the White House took over the Census.
ACORN/OBAMA, OBAMA/ACORN, ACORN/OBAMA, OBAMA/ACORN  |
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09-13-2009, 12:26 PM
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they lost the census thank god!
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Yes, it seems the Obama plan of disenfranchising the majority has hit a rut in the road.
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In America we solve problems in one of three ways, the Ballot Box, the Jury Box, or the Cartridge Box.
I have no reverence for the U.S. Constitution, none for the men who signed it, and certainly none for James Madison, who wrote most of it ~ The_Trouvere
All Muslims are not members of al Qaeda, but all members of al Qaeda are Muslims, and any Muslim might be a member of al Qaeda ~ Stratfor.
"Artillery Brings Dignity to What Would Otherwise Be Just A Vulgar Brawl"
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09-13-2009, 12:40 PM
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Legally you can't go around secretly taping conversations. It's against the law.
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09-13-2009, 12:40 PM
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Legally you can't go around secretly taping conversations. It's against the law.
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09-13-2009, 12:41 PM
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Quote:
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Legally you can't go around secretly taping conversations. It's against the law.
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Tell Dateline NBC that.
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09-13-2009, 12:42 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnMBrowning
Thing is, Willie Horton really did commit very bad crimes after he was let out of prison early. Also, wasn't it Al Gore who first played the Willie Horton card?
IOW, WH was a valid symbol of a legitimate public policy, public safety issue.
This is a valid symbol of a legitimate public policy, public corruption issue.
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It was Mario Cuomo, the BASTION of liberalism, that gave teh issue to Algrore who used it on DooDooKaka
And CHIRP,
when Bush used it, all hell broke loose
A legit issue, a CRAZY dangerous "person" let loose on the public |
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09-13-2009, 12:44 PM
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Quote:
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Tell Dateline NBC that.
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Patriot Act says what?
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09-13-2009, 12:47 PM
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Quote:
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Legally you can't go around secretly taping conversations. It's against the law.
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So was publishing stories that told the truth about politicians before a certain trial in 1735 - the Crown vs. John Peter Zenger.
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09-13-2009, 12:48 PM
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Idiot!
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So you are completely unaware that secretly making recordings of people without their knowledge is against the law? Or are you saying everyone that comes to your office is welcome to secretly record your conservations as they offer drugs, prostitutes, bribes, etc? |
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09-13-2009, 12:51 PM
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Patriot Act says what?
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When?
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09-13-2009, 12:52 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnMBrowning
So was publishing stories that told the truth about politicians before a certain trial in 1735 - the Crown vs. John Peter Zenger.
Defending corruption by condemning whistleblowers is a tool of reactionaries and blind partisans, not of true liberals (progressive or classical). |
Since when is entrapment techniques combined with illegal taping become whistle blowing?
Standard MO of right wing nutbags, redefining words to fit their convoluted arguments. |
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09-13-2009, 12:57 PM
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Tell Dateline NBC that.
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Did Dateline NBC do the story?
Yeah that's what I thought. |
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09-13-2009, 12:57 PM
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Quote:
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Since when is entrapment techniques combined with illegal taping become whistle blowing?
Standard MO of right wing nutbags, redefining words to fit their convoluted arguments.
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entrapment?
who entrapped the ACORN people to say and do anything? |
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09-13-2009, 01:00 PM
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ACORN precedent: John Stossel once charged in Baltimore secret taping case
Amid all the conflicting reports on cable TV and the Internet as to whether or not the filmmakers who secretly taped two ACORN employees in Baltimore violated any law, let me add one historical fact that might bring a bit of clarity and context to the discusssion.
The Baltimore State's Attorney's office has brought felony charges in the past for what was alleged to be essentially the same act as that committed by James O'Keefe and Hannah Giles, the two who did the secret taping at ACORN.
And one of the five persons whom the state's attorney's office charged in the past was John Stossel, the TV news journalist who this week made headlines for another reason by leaving ABC News to join the Fox News Channel.
I know this because I was one of two journalists who was believed to have heard Stossel allegedly admit that ABC News had violated the secret taping statute and was subpoened to testify at the trial. The case was reported in the "New York Times."
http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/ente...g_acorn_b.html |
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