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South Florida elected officials spent part of Saturday morning at a food distribution site
on Miami Beach pleading, “praying and beseeching the federal government to come
to our aid” as the COVID-19 pandemic surges through the state.

4 hours ago

Today is December 5, 2020. The Senate stands adjourned until 3:00pm on Monday,
December 7, 2020
 
KeithD said:
How many months ago were the board Trumpettes pooh-poohing all of that?
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maybe the question is more 'for how many months have the board trumpettes been pooh-poohing all of that'?

the answer, of course, is that they still are!
 
bodysong said:
Miami Herald ✓
Twitter › MiamiHerald

South Florida elected officials spent part of Saturday morning at a food distribution site
on Miami Beach pleading, “praying and beseeching the federal government to come
to our aid” as the COVID-19 pandemic surges through the state.

4 hours ago

Today is December 5, 2020. The Senate stands adjourned until 3:00pm on Monday,
December 7, 2020
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Fuck em. They voted for this. They can stand in line like the rest of the country
 
2500 deaths per day and Trump brayed at one of his torchlight rallies tonight that Murica is "rounding the corner".

I'll be glad when he's gone in 46 days.
 
There is a fascinating story HERE about how the Trump virus will have the first mRNA vaccine.

The professor at Pitt who developed the method to transmit the vaccine into a human body via genetic engineering was demoted in 1990 because her research failed to attract any grant money.

She and her lab partner struggled for 15 years to get a working prototype, but once they did, venture capitalists everywhere took notice of the possible application.

This research will likely result in the discontinuation of traditional "live killed virus" vaccines.

It also explains in detail why future vaccines will require two shots and how one shot without the other will not work (I'd heard that but wondered why).

These two scientists deserve the Nobel prize in chemistry.
 
Every medical employee fighting coronavirus is crying out-

The staff, the ambulance attendents, the doctors, the nurses, the imported. outside
pandemic emergency crew, the morgue.

“It is frustrating that healthcare workers are still getting infected on the job.”

The union was angered when a Hackensack Meridian official recently said the
outbreak mainly stemmed from community spread in New Jersey’s towns and
cities. Cases have been ramping up in the second wave of the pandemic, and
many public health officials are bracing for another surge in the coming weeks.

“The leaders of HPAE continue to fail to recognize the science in this pandemic —
that community spread of COVID-19 is rampant in New Jersey and the nation with
the state reporting a record of nearly 5,000 new cases,” Hackensack Meridian said
in a statement.

But the union said more needs to be done inside hospital walls.

“It is particularly galling that (Hackensack Meridian Health) would blame community
exposure rather than from a workplace filled with desperately sick COVID-19 patients,”
White said. “HMH is compounding its failure to protect employees by violating state law
in this outrageous claim.”

https://www.nj.com/coronavirus/2020...id-19-outbreak-among-nj-hospital-workers.html

Meanwhile, Trump is shouting "Break! Break, and fall apart!
 
Trump is dunking on Germany over 590 coronavirus deaths in a single day.
2,622 died in the US yesterday.

— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) December 9, 2020
 
'There's No Place for Them to Go': I.C.U. Beds Near Capacity Across U.S.

Nov 10, 2020

Surging hospitalizations are straining health care systems around the United States.

There is some evidence physicians are already limiting care, Dr. Tsai said.

NY Times

Not just a spike in numbers- surge in hospitalizations

U.S. Hits Highest 1-Day Toll From Coronavirus With 3,054 Deaths
 
The New Hampshire State Legislature was already fiercely divided over the coronavirus when the new Republican speaker of the House of Representatives, Richard Hinch, died suddenly on Wednesday. Then came the news on Thursday that the cause of his death was Covid-19.

Mr. Hinch, who was 71, died just a week after he was sworn in as speaker — and about three weeks after an indoor meeting of his caucus that led to several members contracting the virus, an event that Mr. Hinch had tried to play down in public remarks. It was not clear whether he, too, had caught the virus at the caucus meeting.
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https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/10/us/richard-hinch-nh-covid.html
 
RobDownSouth said:
That's an interesting read. The vaccine works as well as other companies' vaccines in the 18-49 demographic, yet is not as good in the 49+ demographic. Wonder what is the root cause of that?

Glaxo did the right thing in postponing their release.
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perhaps one of the medical/scientifically aware can tell us... dribble and iman generally have a good grasp of this stuff
 
butters said:
perhaps one of the medical/scientifically aware can tell us... dribble and iman generally have a good grasp of this stuff
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With mRNA, we're in uncharted territory. You fill in certain blanks in the vaccine genome and let 'er rip. There seems to be ever-so-slight variations in the formulae used.
 
here, rob, this is interesting too... astrazeneca combining with sputnik to see if it makes a better all round vaccine

Company to cooperate with Gamaleya Research Institute, Russian Direct Investment Fund and R-Pharm


Combinations of different COVID-19 vaccines may be an important step in generating wider protection through a stronger immune response and better accessibility.

This is why it is important to explore heterologous boosting to make immunisation programmes more flexible, by allowing physicians greater choice at the time of administering vaccines. It is expected that combining vaccines may lead to improved immune response.

The UK government recently announced that it will begin a clinical trial combining the adenovirus vaccines with mRNA technology. AstraZeneca is also considering how it can explore heterologous combinations of different adenovirus vaccines.

Today we announce a clinical trial programme to assess safety and immunogenicity of combination of AZD1222, developed by AstraZeneca and Oxford University and Sputnik V, developed by Russian Gamaleya Research institute. It will begin enrolling adults aged 18 years and older.

Both AZD1222 and Sputnik V are adenoviral vector vaccines that contain genetic material of SARS-CoV-2 virus spike protein. The adenovirus itself is unable to replicate so it can only act as a carrier of genetic material.

Scientific collaboration with Gamaleya Research Institute is important to explore the potential of vaccine combinations unlocking synergies in protection and accessibility through a portfolio approach.
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https://www.astrazeneca****/content/az-ru/media/news/2020/20201211-ru201.html
 
RobDownSouth said:
That's an interesting read. The vaccine works as well as other companies' vaccines in the 18-49 demographic, yet is not as good in the 49+ demographic. Wonder what is the root cause of that?

Glaxo did the right thing in postponing their release.
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butters said:
perhaps one of the medical/scientifically aware can tell us... dribble and iman generally have a good grasp of this stuff
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I don't know for sure...

As I understand it, the GlaxoSmithKline vaccine is not mRNA. It is a traditional live or killed virus vaccine. This virus is a lipid-coated virus. They have a history of being very problematical. My guess, without knowing more, older people have a more difficult time identifying all lipid-coated viruses and therefore can't make the antibodies in the number required. They would be better off, scrapping their research and helping to make the 2 vaccines we know work.
 
Trump Has Sent 729 Tweets Since the Election.

Not a Single One Was About the COVID Death Toll.

Mother Jones

Mother Jones ✓
Twitter › MotherJones

Trump has sent 729 tweets since
the election. Not a single one was
about the COVID death toll.

34 minutes ago
 
Countries where 1 out of every 1000 people have died of Covid-19:

1. San Marino
2. Belgium
3. Italy
4. Peru
5. Bosnia Herzegovina
6. Slovenia
7. North Macedonia
8. Spain
9. Andorra


Both the U.S and U.K. will join the club within the next week.
 
Intelligencer ✓
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Unlike Pence's June claim that the U.S. wasn't seeing a second coronavirus wave,
"rounding the corner" is hazier and more difficult to falsify. @jonathanchait writes

3 hours ago

Jonathan Chait ✓
Twitter › jonathanchait

6 months after Pence said there's no second wave, he now says
we are "turning the corner"

(link)

3 hours ago

The days of seeing a thousand Amrericans die of Covid-19 returned.
After obedient citizens forced coronavirus into killing less than one hundred.

This week-

Three thousand people died in one day, and more than three thousand the day before that.
 
Y'all can bitch all you want about people like me who have our own beliefs on all this, but we keep to oursleves. We stay home for our own reasons and when we go out, we keep our distance from others. I do that all the time and have for years, long before all this.

But then you read about jerkwads like Kirk Cameron who openly rebel by deliberately having parties with intent to violate restrictions as much as a protest as anything else. THESE are the people that need to be held accountable.

Cameron's been an asshole for as long as I can remember though.
 
jaF0 said:
Y'all can bitch all you want about people like me who have our own beliefs on all this, but we keep to oursleves.
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No, your belief is dangerous to others and totally selfish. Own it.
 
cover 19

Had it, was not too bad down for a few days. But now am good to go for the next five months.
 
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