Old 09-28-2017, 05:52 PM   #1
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Men love to impress women. In my situation they once I have bedded down I found that the macho ones were in love with themselves and somewhat boring only wanting to immediately fuck . They quite onces were into foreplay and master love makers. When on a date I love to discuss various things. If I get tipsy, the quite man takes me home and tucks me in. Macho wants to do it because he thinks I can't live without his dick. I would enjoy macho man more if he wouldn't think of himself as the best fuck around. Men what are your feelings?
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Old 09-28-2017, 05:57 PM   #2
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Men love to impress women.
Men what are your feelings?
The ones you call "macho" are generally a bunch of self-centred clods.
A real man sweet-talks his woman.
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Even though I'm bi, I've never had that problem with guys, but I can certainly agree with your premise, although it seems to be a fairly small sampling from which to establish any kind of set rule. Guys wrapped up in their own masculinity do seem to be in love with themselves first - anybody else, second (as a broad generality).

I can speak to the other side of the coin. Back in the 70s, when I became sexual, women in general were not nearly as well versed sexually as they are today. What I noticed was that among the women I bedded at the time, the closer I was to a '10', the crappier the sex was - as if all they had to do was be there. These days, thank God, everybody had better have few good tricks up their sleeve.

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Men love to impress women. In my situation they once I have bedded down I found that the macho ones were in love with themselves and somewhat boring only wanting to immediately fuck . They quite onces were into foreplay and master love makers. When on a date I love to discuss various things. If I get tipsy, the quite man takes me home and tucks me in. Macho wants to do it because he thinks I can't live without his dick. I would enjoy macho man more if he wouldn't think of himself as the best fuck around. Men what are your feelings?
This is pretty much from the perspective of someone wanting a relationship more than casual release--or out to catch someone to take care of them for eternity. There are those on both sides of the fuck who just want the immediate, casual release, and not some quiet person with an engagement ring box on the ready laying beside them when they wake up the morning. Sometimes they both just need the release and not twenty years of arguments and lawyers. And sometimes a Macho Man meets the need.
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The ones you call "macho" are generally a bunch of self-centred clods.
A real man sweet-talks his woman.
A REAL man RESPECTS his woman. Everything he does from there is BECAUSE of that respect.
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I think attraction is an infinitely complex and varied subject. There is somebody for almost every imaginable taste, and it's impossible to make universally true generalizations.

Having said that, I think a lot of women, even women you might not expect would, like machismo in a man, in the same way that many men, even sensitive and intelligent men, are attracted to stereotypical "feminine" qualities in a woman. It appeals on an elemental level. It might not be enough to forge a successful long-term relationship for some, but as Pilot points out, that's not what people always are looking for, and sometimes a macho man will fill the needs of a woman (or a man) one might expect to be looking for something else in a partner.
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This is pretty much from the perspective of someone wanting a relationship more than casual release--or out to catch someone to take care of them for eternity.
I thought it was from the point of view of someone who wanted to be well-fucked.
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I thought it was from the point of view of someone who wanted to be well-fucked.
Absolutely not. I saw it clearly as "commitment to me" first--and sex probably a means to get what is really important. Commitment. This keeps coming up as probably the very basic difference between what is foundational female perception toward sex and foundational male perception. Not suggesting another round of that discussion. But desire for sex does not equate to desire for commitment in basic male perception. In these discussions, I have seen that it does in the basic "female aspect."
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Absolutely not. I saw it clearly as "commitment to me" first--and sex probably a means to get what is really important. Commitment. This keeps coming up as probably the very basic difference between what is foundational female perception toward sex and foundational male perception. Not suggesting another round of that discussion. But desire for sex does not equate to desire for commitment in basic male perception. In these discussions, I have seen that it does in the basic "female aspect."
Maybe the originator can clarify.
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The OP does seem to need an English translation.
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The OP does seem to need an English translation.
Oh, it's just creative grammar.
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So, the OP is intentional fiction? That's a relief.

Because I can't say how often I've seen on this porn site discussion board a perception floated that having sex for the pure pleasure of getting release in the moment isn't legitimate--that sex is supposed to lead to long-term commitment, or it's dirty. This asserted on a porn discussion board. Time and time again.
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I think the OP has been dating, if you want to call it that, the wrong men.

There aren't "quiet" (did you mean "nice"?) men and macho men (did you mean "jerks"?). Men are a little too complicated to put into two simple categories. There's a lot of stuff in between and everyone falls somewhere along that line.

I think you've set up an artificial duality and want people to comment on it. Good luck.
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the macho can be dropped, most men are self centered greedy grabby little boys who want their women to act like porn stars while they just shove it in for about the two minutes they can last.

The minority of men who are good at foreplay and care about giving what they get are a much sought after commodity. Problem is you don't know what they are until you're stuck in bed that first time.
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the macho can be dropped, most men are self centered greedy grabby little boys who want their women to act like porn stars while they just shove it in for about the two minutes they can last.

The minority of men who are good at foreplay and care about giving what they get are a much sought after commodity. Problem is you don't know what they are until you're stuck in bed that first time.
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the macho can be dropped, most men are self centered greedy grabby little boys who want their women to act like porn stars while they just shove it in for about the two minutes they can last.

The minority of men who are good at foreplay and care about giving what they get are a much sought after commodity. Problem is you don't know what they are until you're stuck in bed that first time.
And yet somehow the species thrives.
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the macho can be dropped, most men are self centered greedy grabby little boys who want their women to act like porn stars while they just shove it in for about the two minutes they can last.

The minority of men who are good at foreplay and care about giving what they get are a much sought after commodity. Problem is you don't know what they are until you're stuck in bed that first time.
I do hope you appreciate the irony of what a self-centered statement that is.
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the macho can be dropped, most men are self centered greedy grabby little boys who want their women to act like porn stars while they just shove it in for about the two minutes they can last.

The minority of men who are good at foreplay and care about giving what they get are a much sought after commodity. Problem is you don't know what they are until you're stuck in bed that first time.
Which roughly correlates to the number of women who, after having sex once with a guy they just met, proceed to stalk his facebook, ask questions incessantly about every female acquaintance, and start talking about long term plans.

This is the last place that I'd consider giving an extended sermon on the topic. And I'm perhaps not qualified anyway. But let me strongly suggest that if you have sex with someone you've known for two days, you're essentially treating yourself to a grab bag item. Maybe what you get is the extensive perfume, but maybe what you get is the beer bottle opener with the bright green plastic moose cock handle. By participating in the grab bag, you've already announced you're ok with either outcome. So why are you whining?

You only get good outcomes from a grab bag in romantic fiction. Which is perhaps why that fiction is so popular.

Guys have always wanted, and will always want, quick sex with hot girls and no commitments. Over the course of my lifetime, we had this sexual revolution thing, and the outcome appears to have been that now men in any sort of "relationship" feel virtually entitled to sex in the first week, or it's game over for the relationship. This is clearly a vast advance for men and basically all they ever wanted, but how anyone came to the conclusion this was a good deal for females is a bit of a mystery to me. As a female you're now "empowered to express your sexuality freely." Aka you're free to be used like a tramp and then sometimes thought of as one, and then dumped if you get whiny about it.

Yes, there are a whole lot of bottle openers in that grab bag. But being a bottle opener works for them and there's no incentive to change, so why should they? There are other approaches than reaching blindly into a grab bag. They are unfashionable approaches now, but so what?
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