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Old 09-05-2013, 07:07 PM   #34326
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how many billions are we spending to support the obama Slave drive? aka welfare program?
 

Old 09-05-2013, 07:08 PM   #34327
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how many billions are we paying to support the obama slave dive with "free" phones?


obama, free cell phone for your vote = slavery
 

Old 09-05-2013, 07:32 PM   #34328
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Free Stuff=Slavery. Man, I was not there when they taught that in history class. I could have sworn you couldn't get any farther from the truth than that.
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Old 09-05-2013, 07:34 PM   #34329
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Free Stuff=Slavery. Man, I was not there when they taught that in history class. I could have sworn you couldn't get any farther from the truth than that.
Please don't challenge Jen to "get any farther than truth than that"...he's always up to that sort of challenge!!
 

Old 09-05-2013, 07:36 PM   #34330
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Please don't challenge Jen to "get any farther than truth than that"...he's always up to that sort of challenge!!


does your head still fit in the sand box?

so the obama phones are not true?
obama pushing out welfare, isn't true?


thanks for being a dumb ass, here is your free juice to smoke
 

Old 09-05-2013, 07:39 PM   #34331
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Free Stuff=Slavery. Man, I was not there when they taught that in history class. I could have sworn you couldn't get any farther from the truth than that.
Now point out that the Lifeline telephone program It's so concerned about isn't Obama's but was started under Saint Ronnie Reagan in 1984 and watch it's head explode.
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Old 09-05-2013, 07:40 PM   #34332
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Now point out that the telephone program It's so concerned about isn't Obama's but was started under Saint Ronnie Reagan in 1984 and watch it's head explode.


yes, cuz Ronald Reagan was busy giving away free Apple Iphones ...
 

Old 09-05-2013, 07:48 PM   #34333
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Now point out that the Lifeline telephone program It's so concerned about isn't Obama's but was started under Saint Ronnie Reagan in 1984 and watch it's head explode.
THEN tell it that the first cellular service was offered in 2008, under President G.W. Bush through TracFone.

THEN tell it that the program doesn't provide free phones, only discounts on service.
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cell phone should NOT be free or given away ... period.

we must end this obama welfare dream fantasy.

time to balance the budget, and get the obama spending under control
 

Old 09-05-2013, 08:06 PM   #34335
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THEN tell it that the first cellular service was offered in 2008, under President G.W. Bush through TracFone.

THEN tell it that the program doesn't provide free phones, only discounts on service.
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cell phone should NOT be free or given away ... period.

we must end this obama welfare dream fantasy.

time to balance the budget, and get the obama spending under control
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Old 09-05-2013, 08:12 PM   #34336
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And Saint Ronnie started the program because he correctly realized that phones weren't a luxury item in the 80's. Employers were going to call you at home to get in touch with you, not send you a letter, not knock on your door and not tell you to come back in a week to check in. It was a necessity.

Bush realized that cell phones were if not in the same position, they were damn close. We want the people without jobs to be out looking for jobs not sitting on their asses at home waiting for the phone to ring unable to go out and do day labor or search for jobs because that would take them away from their phones.

It was a good idea and a shame that Republicans won't take credit for their good work. This isn't a handout, it's a hand up in the truest sense of the word.
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derp de derp .... dem fools need more welfare


Socialism, because working is hard!
 

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what will happen, when 60% of American's are living off Entitlements?



oh, that derp got your balls?!?
 

Old 09-05-2013, 08:35 PM   #34339
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Nothing will happen Jen. Considering how police, fire, freeways, garbage collection and the military work 100% of American already are on entitlements already and contrary to your theory of that sinking us it has allowed us to thrive in ways that no other people in all the history of all the world have succeeded. The only two nations to rival us in modern history have both gone farther down the socialist/communist/entitlement road than we have and one of them is poised to surpass us in the future.
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And Saint Ronnie started the program because he correctly realized that phones weren't a luxury item in the 80's. Employers were going to call you at home to get in touch with you, not send you a letter, not knock on your door and not tell you to come back in a week to check in. It was a necessity.

Bush realized that cell phones were if not in the same position, they were damn close. We want the people without jobs to be out looking for jobs not sitting on their asses at home waiting for the phone to ring unable to go out and do day labor or search for jobs because that would take them away from their phones.

It was a good idea and a shame that Republicans won't take credit for their good work. This isn't a handout, it's a hand up in the truest sense of the word.
Very true, but somewhere along the way in the Era of Limbaugh, conservatives got it in their heads that the poor were somehow undeserving and therefore must be both shamed and punished.
 

Old 09-05-2013, 08:44 PM   #34341
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Very true, but somewhere along the way in the Era of Limbaugh, conservatives got it in their heads that the poor were somehow undeserving and therefore must be both shamed and punished.
I feel like in most cases being poor is shameful enough to qualify as a punishment. Which regardless we don't want them trapped (they are but we need to minimzie that when we can)
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Old 09-05-2013, 08:45 PM   #34342
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Maybe now that jen is here, this thread can die like all her others.
 

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Very true, but somewhere along the way in the Era of Limbaugh, conservatives got it in their heads that the poor were somehow undeserving and therefore must be both shamed and punished.



no one fucking said that.....no one wants a single mother to be strapped for cash for fight to feed her kids.

what we are pissed off, is how obama is dishing out welfare like its a career option.

we don't need an economy that works, we need an economy where everyone is working

but no, assholes like you want to "punish" the rich, and "make the rich pay their fair share" as they are already paying wayyyyyyy toooooo much

jesus, you are one stupid person
 

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Maybe now that jen is here, this thread can die like all her others.

Thank you, I'm trying. I can fix you
 

Old 09-05-2013, 09:22 PM   #34345
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An economy where everybody is working is a large part of our problem Jen. There isn't enough work to go around, there hasn't been for more than a century and we're all suffering for your stupid philosophy.

And the Rich don't pay their fair share, in many cases they pay less than the average American does.

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This thread will die when we get a Republican President and not before.
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Old 09-05-2013, 09:52 PM   #34346
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This thread will die when we get a Republican President and not before.
Seeing the way the Republican Party is smashing itself to bits that may very well be never since they will be replaced by conservatives that aren't insane or will fade away to nothing.

I hope they don't learn a thing.
Just keep playing to that ultra-conservative base at all costs morons.
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I think one thing missed here was the reason might be those people work. Just thought I would throw that out.
 

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Nothing will happen Jen. Considering how police, fire, freeways, garbage collection and the military work 100% of American already are on entitlements already and contrary to your theory of that sinking us it has allowed us to thrive in ways that no other people in all the history of all the world have succeeded. The only two nations to rival us in modern history have both gone farther down the socialist/communist/entitlement road than we have and one of them is poised to surpass us in the future.
the only thing I see different is all those people work.
 

Old 09-06-2013, 12:23 AM   #34349
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how many billions are we spending to support the obama Slave drive? aka welfare program?
How much welfare do you get every month?
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